Bark River Posts

Esav Benyamin said:
That cuts both ways. I bet every time he's watching the thread he wonders why you're going back for another swipe at it. :)
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Esav, it's pretty clear you're a fan of Bark River knives based on your posts here at BFC.

Bison22 has 7 posts here at BFC, all of them in that thread, and he was there every single time I looked at the thread for a long while. It wasn't too hard to figure out where he was posting from. Or who he was posting for.
 
Irrelevent that I'm a fan of Bark River, or that Bison is pretty much fixated on this topic.

So are you, to the point of keeping score on who else is.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Irrelevent that I'm a fan of Bark River, or that Bison is pretty much fixated on this topic.

So are you, to the point of keeping score on who else is.
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Why irellevent for a start your a mod.
You say good things nice sharp things might just come your way.
I love my PSK its the best knife i own just got a Bravo and well now i know what all the fuss is about now and when this damn Gunny eventually makes its way out i will be picking one up straight away.
However im not one for climbing up bumholes just incase i face the moaning bullying what ever you may call it of others.BRKT & Busse being the worst for that IMO but they do make amongst the best knives on the planet.
My personal feelings are that Bark River do over price certain iteams i dont for example understand how i can get a Bravo 1 for $165 which is what i paid for a micarta black handle yet if i wont it in say blue and black G10 i would pay $240.
Thats still with the Kydex sheath.And even i can source blue black G10.
The cost of materials sourcing them etc does not add up to a $75 diffrence or even near and loads of there blades are just like this.
There are many companys who are responsible for using the same tactic.
Busse are bad for it too if i want a blade in a ordinary colour then the price will be say $200 but if i just want some coloured G10 or Micarta that price will sky rocket yet the cost of materials labour etc are almost exactly the same.
The one i love best is Busses excuse that production's running so late because there so busy making blades for the Army.
While i except they do this and its a great thing to do i dont belive they do so on the scale thats made out to be.How many soldiers do you know with a Busse they got issued with?.
Both easily two of the best companys out there but they are that companys and there main aim is to make money and IMO that comes first over customers.And i dont care about all the great things they have fixed etc.
The fact is this is the best buisness move they could make as word spreads like a big fire on the net.Make one person happy they post on it everyone who reads that post is going to have a better opinion of the company and that in return will effect future sales.
 
enderwiggin said:
Giant wall of text... Obscuring thread... Must find... Punctuation...
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If you cant desifir what im trying to say your grasp of English must be of the top Grade.
And if thats all you can come up with to get at me then drop the handbag i dont do girl fights.
 
These two companys also offer blades in various sizes however the price range does not reflect this regardless of the time it takes to produce the knife.
The materials etc must be more obviouslly but not by the way its reflected in the prices.
 
I have had nothing but good experiences with Bark River. In one case the fixed a knife of mine up that I honestly was going to just throw in the tool box because I thought it was so messed up. They fixed it free. I also had a brand new Bravo 1 ironwood knife that I droped point first into a cast iron sink. They offered to fixit also. If you think their knives are over priced, dont buy them. You may be looking in the wrong places also. I just seen a black g-10 Bravo 1 for $179.99 at one of their stocking dealers.Are they perfect? Not at all. No company that has people working at it is going to be perfect. Everyone has bad days. Now I only own 7 of their knives but I'm am very impressed with the quality. The folks at the company are good people also. The truth is the majority of the companies that I have dealt with (BRKT, Buck, and CASE) have all stood behind their products. It seems that sometimes we expect perfection in an imperfect world.
 
Why irellevent for a start your a mod.
You say good things nice sharp things might just come your way.
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That's absurd. You're saying that if he just says nice things about, say, Bark River, that they'll send him free knives as... what, a bribe? Moderators here don't have that kind of power.
 
These_Nutz said:
If you can't decipher what I'm trying to say your grasp of English must be of the top Grade.
And if that's all you can come up with to get at me, then drop the handbag I don't do girl fights.
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Spelling counts too.... if you're worried about girl fights, I don't want you to smear your mascarsa.

I, for one, don't do stupid. Nor lazy. So in the words of Steve Buscemi, learn to type.

I am not concerned with your opinions at this point. When you are capable of putting them on "paper" with a modicum of proper decorum and English, I'll take you off Ignore.
 
Now, I might have second thoughts before making a business deal with them, only because there is some evidence out there that it could go sour. Note that I said there is some evidence out there - I did not say proof or even substantial evidence, rather there is a piece of evidence of possible misfeasance on the part of BRKT.
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Having read the thread on the other forum (Bark River sub forum) it is clear that there are two sides to this story.

I will continue to buy Bark River knives.
Both Bark River and their stocking dealers have given me straight answers and first class customer service.
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I don't get how people say there are two sides or no proof Mike admitted to every charge Snarlslayer made
1.) They had a contract
2.)Snarlslayer paid him $16,000
3.)Mike failed to deliver the Knifes in the time specified
4.)Mike failed to meet his next delivery date
5.)Mike decides he will not send the knives to Snarlslyer (knives he has already paid for) but sell them to his other dealers
6.)Mike will pay Snarlslayer back his $16,000 whenever he feels like it and if he don't like it tough S**T.

Mike admitted to each of these things so how is there two sides and no proof?
 
Mr. Nutz, you might watch what kind of accusations you throw around. I can tell you first hand that being a mod is a time consuming and (at times) a thankless job. Mods receive no compensation for their work, unless you consider libel or accusations as some form of reward. Generally, they are placed in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't position" and have to figure out a way to keep the peace.

Super Mods have even more on their plate because they have the entire forum to look after. We are extremely lucky to have Esav as a moderator around here, and he is every bit as entitled to his opinions as you are. You can agree, disagree, or agree to disagree, but there is no reason to act like a tool to someone with a much earned respect.
 
Let's see, threats and accusations that mods are bribed here.

Infractions issued.
 
hardheart said:
cereedy said:
it seams there's always some one around that will try to bring a good company and a good man down.
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it's ok, Snarlslayer got his money back, he wasn't down for long
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Amen to that.............:thumbup:
It is hard to imagine why a man like Mike Stewart of Bark River would try to screw over "SnarlSlayer" like he did.
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I am frankly amazed at what Chiller2 wrote below..... :confused:

But it does seem like those are the facts, simple as that.

Chiller2 said:
I don't get how people say there are two sides or no proof Mike admitted to every charge Snarlslayer made
1.) They had a contract
2.)Snarlslayer paid him $16,000
3.)Mike failed to deliver the Knifes in the time specified
4.)Mike failed to meet his next delivery date
5.)Mike decides he will not send the knives to Snarlslyer (knives he has already paid for) but sell them to his other dealers
6.)Mike will pay Snarlslayer back his $16,000 whenever he feels like it and if he don't like it tough S**T.

Mike admitted to each of these things so how is there two sides and no proof?
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+1 ... to what you said Chiller2............ :thumbup:
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I kinda like some of Bark Rivers knives too......... BUT, after reading this..... and this is how their "main man" operates .... I'd find it very hard to ever do business with them again.

Now, I am smart enough to know that fact in itself will most likely not break their/his heart nor cause a loss of sleep............ ;)

BUT......... it is amazing what "word of mouth" advertising can do for any business in the long run.... whether it be positive or negative...........

Glad you at least got your money back "Slayer"............:thumbup:
It seems a shame he profited off your idea though..........
 
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You know Stephen Y. / SnarlSlayer, an attorney I am not.

BUT, after reading this over several times........ it might be a good idea if you talk with one..... if you have not already.

You had a contract with Mike S. / Bark River about an idea you had to have a knife produced that you had sole right to distribute. Evidently it was a signed contract.

It seems to me, that even though you "got your money back" ........... you got royally screwed.

Stir the pot, talk to a lawyer to see IF you have a legit case, do it on contingency.......... he won't take it if he doesn't think you have a chance. You have nothing to lose.

Mike S. ripped off and is profiting from your idea...... it seems. If the things you have presented are accurate.

Common sense would dictate he should have to pay ......... but, legal matters rarely deal in common sense...... sad to say.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out should you pursue it............... :thumbup: ;)
 
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