bark river vs Fällkniven

I had been looking for a hunting knife for this coming fall season. That included Fallkniven and BR, as well as some others. The Fallkniven TK1 is my first choice and will likely remain so. The photo is borrowed from another forum I stumbled upon while looking for reviews. It's far better than most you see on sale sites.
 

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And all those people thinking that Fallkniven is lacking in aestetics, should take a look at the Northern Light series, or the Tre Kronor series. The "rubber" handled ones are pure function, which makes them attractive in another way!


I agree with you that "function" is also an aesthetic. It's not ALL about
the visual.
Form should FOLLOW function. That's the natural rhythm of things.

Also, I hope I didn't give the impression that I think Fallkniven's are completely lacking in aesthetics. IMO, even the kraton handled ones are fine looking knives. However, the REALLY nice ones are "aesthetically" incompatible with my finances. I am considering a micarta handled F1 though.

But for now, I'm in a Barkie state of mind!! (love those wood scales)

best regards, CM.


PS. Good steel is good steel wherever it's made. :thumbup:
I worked in Japan for a short time and found that the people put great pride in whatever they endeavor to do.
The "Samurai way" seems to be an innate Japanese quality. Beautiful, caring people.
 
In my humble opinion being "made in the USA" has nothing to do with quality. I think it's a bit narrow minded only wanting to buy "made in the USA". You're missing out on many great knives produced in Japan, Spain, Germany, France, and then I'm not even talking about customs.

(to the guys Jos quoted)
If you have ever traded with Swedish manufacturers of any product, you'll know that the Swedes allways demand the highest (and most expensive) quality tests and standards for their materials.

Higher than the germans and most certainly higher than the average US company.

I think it is a good thing if you want to support the economy of your own country, but from an absolute and quality oriented point of view, it carries no weight.
 
(to the guys Jos quoted)
If you have ever traded with Swedish manufacturers of any product, you'll know that the Swedes allways demand the highest (and most expensive) quality tests and standards for their materials.

Higher than the germans and most certainly higher than the average US company.

I think it is a good thing if you want to support the economy of your own country, but from an absolute and quality oriented point of view, it carries no weight.

Nephildevil, what carries no weight around here is your constant US bashing. When a devil-worshipping absinthe-drinker actually knows anything about anything, perhaps we'll start to listen. But you'll probably find a way to get yourself banned, or end up getting yourself killed with your dangerous "tests" before that happens.

Knock off the unfounded US bashing.
 
US bashing?

i was just putting things into perspective, the Swedes and the whole of Scandinavia ARE known for their very high production standards.

Its no secret, but some dont know it seems.


-maybe i'd just have to xxx on the chinese, like everybody else here. ...no wait
 
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I was referring to work in the sales dept of a polymer factory with clients in a broad range of industries going from cars to telecom.

Not especially knives or knife related.

But ok, i see the point, i should not have mentioned the US at all. That would have kept the peace.
 
like i said before, i dont have any bark river knife, yet..
what i liked in fallkniven fixed blades like F1 was the exposed tang, the size, and the corrosion resistance of 420j2 used for lamination, and of course, the vg10 steel core
but mainly, the exposed tang along with the ease of carry is what made me buy it
and it doesnt cost to much :D
 
Fällkniven vs Bark River isn't a question I need to ever ask. I'd be fine with either, as both make good knives. But, there are some things I'd like to point out.

All the Fallkniven's I've seen have been immaculate, and just to compare rubber handled knives the fit/finish on the fallkniven is much better than say, the scrapyards I own.

Practically none of the Fällknivens I've seen have been immaculate. The same goes for the Bark Rivers I've seen, although I would rate Bark River's fit and finish higher, if only just barely, than Fällkniven's. On Fällknivens a distinctly uneven grind (especially the tip) is more the rule than the exception, and a lot of Bark Rivers come with visibly bent blades (the bigger they are, the larger the chance you'll see a bent blade). More often than not, these fit and finish issues do not affect performance at all - but they are, still, repeatedly occurring issues. Neither company has anywhere near perfect fit and finish, or even exceptionally good. But then, what do we care? Knives are meant for use, and the fit and finish is going to suffer in use. I'm pointing this out simply so no-one can say they weren't warned about imperfections in Fällkniven's and Bark River's f & f. There are certainly companies with a million times worse fit and finish...


The Falkniven F1 - and others with the VG-10 - are 'made in Japan'. I was shocked, having heard all of my life about the quality of Swedish steel - and the Falkniven uses Japaneese steel - oh well! Also, while the 'entry level' Bark Rivers start with Micarta, Falkniven starts with 'Kraton' - a type of rubber. The F1 in Kraton is ~$110-$120 mail order; ~$250 with black Micarta!

Obviously, I'll take Bark River.

This is something that keeps on coming up, and I keep on wondering about it. Do some people not know that quality of manufacture in Japan is generally extremely high, certainly better than in most European countries, and far, far above most other Asian countries? The quality of Japanese products is certainly not any less than US made. There's nothing wrong with Japanese steel. I'd just as soon get a knife in Japanese steel as in Swedish. And when a Swedish company is making its knives from Japanese steel, there's a reason for it, and it's not to cut down manufacturing costs.

As far as the handles are concerned, the Thermorun (not Kraton, exactly - some Fällkniven models like the A1 have Kraton handles, some, like the F1, Thermorun handles) handles on Fällknivens are ugly, but they work very well. They have great grip, and in cold weather, you won't have the steel of the tang against your hand, which is very good - certainly much better than Micarta scales in that weather. However, the Micarta handled Fällknivens are overpriced - those are for the more obsessed collectors amongst us.


I think that was all I was going to say. Bark River and Fällkniven both make knives that cut. :thumbup:
 
Halbie,

You misread. Reread my initial statement. I know where VG-10 comes from. I was shocked to find that a Swedish company had to go to another country to source their blade metal, as Sweden was once well-known for it's blade steel. Additionally, "The knives are made in the USA - a great plus for me." should be easy enough to understand. When I can, I buy American. While I have many American made knives, I do have an eclectic mix of knives from Europe - Pumas, SAKs, Bokers, etc. There are a few Japaneese knives on my list, too - Mcusta, for example.

My first new car was a 1970 Audi 100LS - followed by a new '73 Alfa Romeo Berlina and a '76 Fiat 131. Eight more Alfa's and I discovered MOPAR in 1983. My '05 Jeep Liberty and my wife's '05 Dodge SRT-4, both US made, have been fantastic. My large scale model trains are German-made (LGB - now owned by Marklin and no longer German made.). I have American and PRC-made machine tools in my basement shop. My revolvers are all S&W; my long guns are made by CZ. I am an international buyer - it's just that I buy American when I can. Read into that whatever you want, I offer no apologies or further explanations for that.

Stainz (Actually, the name of the Austrian meter gauge 0-4-0 mascot for LGB.)

PS Jos, etc: Perhaps Kraton is made from the 'Yokohama' man??

PPS I am sure the brief marriage of Falkniven blades and Bark River handles produced some fine offspring, but I still like CS and some tool steels better than many of the laminates. I also have become quite fond of convex grinds.
 
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In many parts of the US, particularly urbanized areas away from hunting grounds, hunting remains the forbidden sport of the rich :( .
 
Do some people not know that quality of manufacture in Japan is generally extremely high.

There's nothing wrong with Japanese steel. :thumbup:


THE BRIDE; "I need Japanese steel."

THE MAN FROM OKINAWA; "Why do you need Japanese steel?"

THE BRIDE; "I have vermin to kill! - ["Kill Bill" Volume 1]
 
Thanks for mentioning the Barkkniven blades; I had no idea such were available. Given my rust issues with A2 on the Gameskeeper (naval jelly, high-end gun oil, store out of leather sheath, repeat), I think a BRKT-handled F1 would be spot on.
 
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