Batoning: an article on proper technique!

the possum said:
I disagree with the author's premise about having the blade angled.
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No fair. You're trying to drag us back on topic. Anyway, why do you disagree? Do you have theory on what causes breaks while batoning? I don't really have an opinion either way. I've never broken a knife batoning, but am interested to hear an alternative theory.
 
Codger_64 said:
I do know how to parse quotes. Arrogant? I submit that nowhere in my post did I display arrogance. I allowed six ways from sunday that some people who enjoy the hobby of batoning are most welcome to it and their choice of knives. Where did you read that I was attempting to "diss" your choice of carrying and using whatever knife you choose in whatever manner you chose for whatever task you choose? You want to carry a large knife and cut wrecked cars apart, or build a log home, or carve canoes and totem poles from sequoias, have at it. I submit that I am not the one displaying arrogance here.

Codger
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I found arrogance in the tone of your post but no more than any of the others who can't imagine someone doing something differently. I guess my problem is that I see the benefits of both arguments. That's why I'm trying to decide between the two ideas. I guess I'll just hybrid the motha' and piss both sides off.:D
 
skammer said:
Chris,

You are whining again.
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That's odd, I thought you were.

I will make a deal with you, I will not bring up the fact that in my opinion it is insane to spend a bunch of money on a knife that doesn't do anything very well. If you will not bring up the fact that in your opinion it is insane to spend very little money on a knife that cuts very well.

I have actually stopped already, I realized that people use the tools they carry for different reasons and have different expectations for their tools. For example, Sodak likes to chop plywood with his knives, I not only would never do that I can't fathom why anyone would want to. :confused: Chris
 
runningboar said:
I will make a deal with you, I will not bring up the fact that in my opinion it is insane to spend a bunch of money on a knife that doesn't do anything very well. If you will not bring up the fact that in your opinion it is insane to spend very little money on a knife that cuts very well.
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MMMM Pass :D;)

Its a crusade what can I say.

Informative banter is fun.

Skam
 
I enjoyed the article. Yes, technique is important. I will be doing a little camping this weekend, and now look forward to putting a few of my plastic-handled Mora knives under the baton. After I play with those for a while, i'll go to town with my RS6 Predator WSK.



There, now Skammer and runningboar can team up together against me! Muhwahwahwa!





Just kidding. Although I may baton a Mora for fun, anyways. Really, I want to work with my NWA BFSK as much as possible.
 
I guess I need to go and find a big 'ole Busse so I have something to use as a baton on my Mora. :D:D:D:D

I ain't got a dog in the hunt, just had to bark!
 
Codger_64 said:
I do know how to parse quotes. Arrogant? I submit that nowhere in my post did I display arrogance. I allowed six ways from sunday that some people who enjoy the hobby of batoning are most welcome to it and their choice of knives. Where did you read that I was attempting to "diss" your choice of carrying and using whatever knife you choose in whatever manner you chose for whatever task you choose? You want to carry a large knife and cut wrecked cars apart, or build a log home, or carve canoes and totem poles from sequoias, have at it. I submit that I am not the one displaying arrogance here.

Codger
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I don't cut cars apart, never have. Nor am I building log homes or canoes. You constantly try to paint someone having a large knife with immature activity. We've had this discussion before, I've given Runningboar several valid uses in the woods for a large knife. And yes, I've got a couple of knives that I've had over 30 years also. Big deal.

kiahs said:
But do you baton it? :)

In the OP, didn't a BR suffer a complete failure where a Mora did not?

I don't have enough big blade chopping experience to argue that point. I do know hatchets and axes chop pretty well. Almost like they were made for it.

How would you whittle?
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Nope! Wouldn't even try.... :eek:
I can't think of what BR stands for, sorry.
Yes, but my larger FB's can also do knife tasks, such as whittling.
See number 3. But also, I don't need much whittling out in the woods.

I'll get this parsing business soon, thanks for the tip... :(


runningboar said:
For example, Sodak likes to chop plywood with his knives, I not only would never do that I can't fathom why anyone would want to. :confused: Chris
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Not true. I chopped plywood to perform edge testing on a bunch of my larger fixed blades. It's a very rough test, if you read my post where I described it, you'd know that I was testing.

I don't "like" chopping plywood, as you well know, you are trying to paint me a certain way. As to why I chopped it, read the above paragraph. Again.
 
Why are you big knife guys so sensitive? :rolleyes:

Enjoy what ever you enjoy and don't worry about what a bunch of keyboard commandos think, if you enjoy chopping plywood, chop away. :D Chris


PS: I would still like to see you clean a squirrel with an FB, I am not sure what an FB is but I am sure it is huge. :p
 
I found the battoning article very informative. I'll have to try the technique using the methodology. Maybe I'm ignorant here but would a good saw like the gerber folder do just as well if not better and not risk damaging your knife:confused:.
 
runningboar said:
I will make a deal with you, I will not bring up the fact that in my opinion it is insane to spend a bunch of money on a knife that doesn't do anything very well.
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What I think is funny is that you keep asking people to give you one thing that a big knife does better then a small/thin one. You have actually touched on exactly why people carry them. Get ready for it...

IT DOES EVERYTHING POORLY.
 
rfbadger said:
I found the battoning article very informative. I'll have to try the technique using the methodology. Maybe I'm ignorant here but would a good saw like the gerber folder do just as well if not better and not risk damaging your knife:confused:.
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I actually use my SAK saws quite a bit!! I have a Stanley folding saw that uses reciprocating saw (like Sawzall) blades and a I carry a Pocket Chainsaw.

I also have an aluminum Sven Saw, think triangular bow saw that sees extensive usage.

One thing guys keep saying is they like to chop/baton a big knife to split wood. An easier method is to SAW half way through the wood while it is LONG, then place it between two stout tree trunks and pull in the opposite direction. It will split the wood in a similar fashion!

One could also use the saw to start a 'split' then use wedges whittled from pieces of wood to continue splitting the wood. The baton would be used on the wedges rather than on the knife! ;)
 
Shotgun said:
What I think is funny is that you keep asking people to give you one thing that a big knife does better then a small/thin one. You have actually touched on exactly why people carry them. Get ready for it...

IT DOES EVERYTHING POORLY.
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Good point and of course I know the reason, these guys are just fun to rib. For my uses what I use works best, for them I am sure they are the same way. Chris
 
Bored now :yawn:

But seriously a small sharp little blade has its place. It just doesnt have a place in my world of hard use in the outback. I cant count on it, they are too fragile and I need a bigger heavier blade.

Hard to understand for some learning impaired I guess.

Skam
 
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