Batoning SR101

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MacLaren1 said:
From what I understand, Busse has done extensive testing with 3v. Simply put, if it were better they would be using it. Not my words. Busse.
Now, as far as how the 3v was heated, I'm not sure.
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That doesn't mean that Busse considered SR101 better than 3V. It could easily mean that at the price point that SR101 targets, there is nothing better. 3V may be considerably more expensive and would raise the cost of knives to a higher level maybe closer to INFI. We don't really know for sure.
 
It will also baton better after you strip it. I stripped the coating from my RMD and it batons a lot better now.
 
I just got this r9 in trade. It's been well used before I got it. I'm really impressed. From pictures compared in length it looks more narrow than bwm or fsh so I just thought of it as a skinny knife with a funny looking handle. It's a beefy monster in hand. Probably my new favorite big knife.

The first blade pics of the edge are after splitting that 7" log. Most impressive that by sight and feel there was no change whatsoever. You can see where the wood passed. It was clean before I started.
 
Cobalt said:
That doesn't mean that Busse considered SR101 better than 3V. It could easily mean that at the price point that SR101 targets, there is nothing better. 3V may be considerably more expensive and would raise the cost of knives to a higher level maybe closer to INFI. We don't really know for sure.
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Actually, Busse did say that they would give the nod to 52100 over 3v.
So yes, that's exactly what it meant.
Again, if 3v were better, than Busse would be using it. No??
In TOUGHNESS, Busse specifically gave the nod to 52100 over 3v.
And Busse said, if 3v was better, they would be using it. Period.
 
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IMG_20171118_132950~3.jpg If you look closely the first few inches are smooth wood on the right side. This log was a knotty bastard I had to actually cut that far in before the blade started acting as a wedge. You can see the blade chatter marks. I beat the shit out of this blade and it just burped and asked for seconds.
 
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MacLaren1 said:
Actually, Busse did say that they would give the nod to 52100 over 3v.
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They have said that at some point, as did I when I first dabbled in cpm3V and was sorely disappointed at that time.
But they have not tested 3V done by a great heat treater. No comparison of 3V done by someone that knows heat treat has been done with SR101. Just like if you take 52100 done by someone who is not so good at HT, it may get outperformed by someone who knows how to HT 1080 steel. Take a carothers 3V blade and then compare it to an SR101 blade. I can tell you that 3V done by Nathan doesn't chip out like I have seen in the past with 3V. I would be very interested in seeing Busse HT a piece of cpm3V and compare that to SR101. It could be that their performance is close, but SR101 is the better value. But we don't know. There is no published test anywhere.

Do you think that A2 done by Bark River matches A2 done by Busse? Good quality steel is just part of the story, just like blade design is. HT is the major part of that story. I would take Busse's A2 over almost any other companies knife with any steel.
 
LukeTheSpook said:
Those statistics!!!

Uh...... What? 52100 is good stuff but I'm not sure anyone would put it above 3V in anything. Especially after peters developed the delta heat treat. Much cheaper though.
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Small correction if I may... it wasn't Peters that developed the Delta 3V, it was Nathan Carothers. That's why only Nate, Guy S. and Dan K. (which were part of the dev. process) are the only ones that use Delta 3V...

Cheers,
C.
 
MacLaren1 said:
Actually, Busse did say that they would give the nod to 52100 over 3v.
So yes, that's exactly what it meant.
Again, if 3v were better, than Busse would be using it. No??
In TOUGHNESS, Busse specifically gave the nod to 52100 over 3v.
And Busse said, if 3v was better, they would be using it. Period.
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I will not repeat myself. Read what I wrote. You seem to think that all 3V's are created equal. Not sure that I can make it any more clear than what I said earlier. To say that I disagree with you is an understatement. There is a few people in here that have Carothers 3V and SR101. A few have spoken and you have ignored their statements. Busse has not tested a supercharged 3V blade. Unless he did so in the last 12 months. I have, however.
 
Ferhman developed a special ht for 3v as well. I had Bos do mine (only knife I made from scratch, wow it's a lot of work!) at 60rc back when he was still with Buck and it is sturdy but also convex. I haven't tried batoning with it though.
 
fishface5 said:
Ferhman developed a special ht for 3v as well. I had Bos do mine (only knife I made from scratch, wow it's a lot of work!) at 60rc back when he was still with Buck and it is sturdy but also convex. I haven't tried batoning with it though.
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Having had Fehrman, custom and carothers 3V I can say that the carothers blade resisted chipping better than any other 3V I have owned to include several custom blades.
 
Cobalt said:
I will not repeat myself. Read what I wrote. You seem to think that all 3V's are created equal. Not sure that I can make it any more clear than what I said earlier. To say that I disagree with you is an understatement. There is a few people in here that have Carothers 3V and SR101. A few have spoken and you have ignored their statements. Busse has not tested a supercharged 3V blade. Unless he did so in the last 12 months. I have, however.
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Lol......
Repeat yourself. Wow.
All I did was to state what Busse said about 3v.
I just cannot understand why you have a problem with what Busse said???
 
Maybe a head to head comparison is needed:D
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Carothers is the only 3V I have. If Busse made a 3V blade I would have that also. But if Busse used any steel I would have it. lol. No one beats Jerry's HT
 
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