Be Honest... Would you pay $625 for this knife?

[Ken44]

I vote nutnfancy for the third party tester just saying

Good one, man ! It cracked me up





Yes, Dan is a very honest man. Still needs to be a third party tester IMO.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

Good one, man ! It cracked me up





Yes, Dan is a very honest man. Still needs to be a third party tester IMO.

If I felt there was a real contest at hand I would agree, partially because I get the very strong sense that Mr. Winkler is going to be much harder on and more critical of his own knife than of the Schrade. However, given the situation, what I really want is a great look at the man behind the blade putting his knife through its paces and really giving it a workout, so this works just fine for me.

 

[craytab]

Okay, we are all caught up. Thanks to Redlynx & Sikael. Honorable mention to trevitrace who was ready to pay but we hit our mark and to Redlynx for the willingness to pay $10.

Ken44 and others who have commented on a non-bias tester, while I respect your opinion and completely understand it, we are going with the challenge put forth by Mr. Winkler. If anyone who has contributed to the fund or tried to (trevitrace) has a problem with this please contact me or the others and we can discuss it. Finally, I will reach out to Mr. Winkler and let him know about how this went down. I will also let him know the tests are up to him though we would like as much documentation as possible. Finally, if he agrees I will have the knife sent directly to him.

Of course, if anyone has a problem with this, feel free to disagree in a respectful manner. But really, it comes down to what the contributing members agree on and what Mr. Winkler agrees on. And Boris, don't get this shut down with trolling, as any comments like you made in the past certainly will be taken as so here. I would encourage others to ignore him (there's a list for that!). We actually got this going. Let's not let someone mess it up.

Edit to add: I will also say we are not interested in anything in return other than the tests themselves. Perhaps if the Schrade makes it through the tests we can do a giveaway.

 

[craytab]

If I felt there was a real contest at hand I would agree, partially because I get the very strong sense that Mr. Winkler is going to be much harder on and more critical of his own knife than of the Schrade. However, given the situation, what I really want is a great look at the man behind the blade putting his knife through its paces and really giving it a workout, so this works just fine for me.

Yes, well worth my time and my $5.

 

[mainaman]

Probably not unless it is better performer than similar sized Busse.

 

[LadyEarth]

If Mr. Winkle wants to improve his own knives, he should be comparing/testing his products to the Busse knives. My safe bet is that Mr. Winkle's knives will break long before the Busse knives will.

 

[craytab]

I edited my above post to add: I will also say we are not interested in anything in return other than the tests themselves. Perhaps if the Schrade makes it through the tests we can do a giveaway. Again, if those who contributed or tried have an issue with this let me know but I think this was the consensus based on the post and the fact that there is no way in hell the schrade will do better.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

I edited my above post to add: I will also say we are not interested in anything in return other than the tests themselves. Perhaps if the Schrade makes it through the tests we can do a giveaway. Again, if those who contributed or tried have an issue with this let me know but I think this was the consensus based on the post and the fact that there is no way in hell the schrade will do better.

Yeah, I figured it for a giveaway. I doubt it will break, as it is 1/4" thick 1095.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

If Mr. Winkle wants to improve his own knives, he should be comparing/testing his products to the Busse knives. My safe bet is that Mr. Winkle's knives will break long before the Busse knives will.

Break? Maybe, but will the Busse perform as well? I've not handled anything but Bussekin, but if the real things are like that then they favor fairly obtuse grinds and edges that, well durable, can hinder cutting efficiency.

 

[RedLynx]

Break? Maybe, but will the Busse perform as well? I've not handled anything but Bussekin, but if the real things are like that then they favor fairly obtuse grinds and edges that, well durable, can hinder cutting efficiency.

Indeed. Never owned or handled a busse so I won't comment on them, but knife tests aren't about which one will break first... that's the last thing I want to know.

 

[trevitrace]

Probably not unless it is better performer than similar sized Busse.

If Mr. Winkle wants to improve his own knives, he should be comparing/testing his products to the Busse knives. My safe bet is that Mr. Winkle's knives will break long before the Busse knives will.

I'd be curious about this as well. Though it's quite a bit heavier, I've got a NMFBM I could lend to the cause.

 

[craytab]

If Mr. Winkle wants to improve his own knives, he should be comparing/testing his products to the Busse knives. My safe bet is that Mr. Winkle's knives will break long before the Busse knives will.

Great. Not the subject here though. Take up your own collection and I am sure he would love to help you out.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

Indeed. Never owned or handled a busse so I won't comment on them, but knife tests aren't about which one will break first... that's the last thing I want to know.

Well, it's not the LAST thing I want to know, but once I know it's tough enough to do what I want my interest in it drops pretty dramatically.

 

[LadyEarth]

Break? Maybe, but will the Busse perform as well? I've not handled anything but Bussekin, but if the real things are like that then they favor fairly obtuse grinds and edges that, well durable, can hinder cutting efficiency.

I wonder if you even realize that Busse knives are known to have various different edges based on the owner's wishes since they can have various Blade Forum grinders regrind the edges to make it bite more.

Also, did you already forget that winkle even mentioned that he will push those knives so hard that he might end up buying a new one if the need occurs?

So yeah, I'm still betting on the Busse knives.

 

[KingMC]

I edited my above post to add: I will also say we are not interested in anything in return other than the tests themselves. Perhaps if the Schrade makes it through the tests we can do a giveaway. Again, if those who contributed or tried have an issue with this let me know but I think this was the consensus based on the post and the fact that there is no way in hell the schrade will do better.

I do not care for anything in return, I contributed for the cause of education and nothing more. Call it a donation if you will, I'm just curious.

 

[LadyEarth]

Great. Not the subject here though. Take up your own collection and I am sure he would love to help you out.

I am well within the conversational subject in which Winkle talked about having any knife challenge his own products.

You might want to be a little wee more flexible in this thread since it's not a thread about your collection activity to fund a knife for Mr. Winkle. In another word, don't be selfish in hogging this thread.

 

[KingMC]

I wonder if you even realize that Busse knives are known to have various different edges based on the owner's wishes since they can have various Blade Forum grinders regrind the edges to make it bite more.

Also, did you already forget that winkle even mentioned that he will push those knives so hard that he might end up buying a new one if the need occurs?

So yeah, I'm still betting on the Busse knives.

I don't think Busse is relevant to this conversation, as it is not only similarly priced to the Winkler knives, it also has a fancy steel as well, both points of which were the reason the conversion got started as to whether cheap steel and a cheap price could really out-perform a good steel at a higher price. Since Busse's knives are not $33, it's no really relevant to this current topic.

 

[craytab]

I wonder if you even realize that Busse knives are known to have various different edges based on the owner's wishes since they can have various Blade Forum grinders regrind the edges to make it bite more.

I wonder if you even realize that this can happen with ANY KNIFE, even the $30 Schrade we are buying if you can imagine...

Seriously, we already have had enough trouble in this thread, no need to go starting more. Would it be neat to see Busse vs the Camp knife? Sure. Go start a thread about it.

 

[KingMC]

Again, I am amazed at the passion here about how much I charge for a Camp Knife. Now it has expanded to my knife wont perform as well as another that is priced lower. That could be true. I have not tested a lot of other makers knives.

How about this, anyone out there that that wants to step up to the challenge I will put my Camp Knife up against any other similar knife out there in a side by side test. If your knife beats mine you can have my knife.

Some of the competition knives I have seen will certainly hold up to any test I may come up with. Those guys are really good at making high performance knives but I doubt there are many that cost less than $625 unless the maker just wants to get rid of one. I really don't think a full custom is what is being compared to mine in this thread. However I will accept the challenge from anyone.

You can send your knife to me and I will video the tests, you can bring your knife to me and witness test yourself.

Who's in?

Daniel

As you can see, if you can front the Busse, he will compare the two side-by-side. Otherwise, speculation is off-topic.

 

[Danke42]

I wonder if you even realize that this can happen with ANY KNIFE, even the $30 Schrade we are buying if you can imagine...

Seriously, we already have had enough trouble in this thread, no need to go starting more. Would it be neat to see Busse vs the Camp knife? Sure. Go start a thread about it.

To me it sounds like she's eager to send a Battle Mistress in for the test.

Just make sure to include a sheath.