Beaumont KMG

Given the odds of anyone getting useful information at this point, I am closing this down.
If bladsmth thinks it still has some potential, he can certainly reopen it.
If sdemars thinks he can start over and get better advice, he can do so.
 
Thank you Esav for re-opening this thread . . .

I actually asked that this thread be deleted, but was told that is very rare to do that, so I thought re-opening would serve the same purpose.

I don’t want this thread or what it became to used two years down the road to beat up on Beaumont Metal Works while I am standing in front of my KMG bragging about what an ass kicking grinder it is having long forgot about a few rust spots I found on 150+ pounds of machined steel.

I will be re-editing all my post to read “....”, if you quoted anything I said that is negative towards KMG, please do the same.

If it is something that just makes me look like an ass, feel free to leave it.

“I SHOULD NOT HAVE POSTED ABOUT A PRODUCT WHILE ANGRY”

Sure as hell not prior to talking to the vendor FIRST ! ! !

Like a one poster said, maybe Bob read your post BEFORE you called him. . . uuuuuuuuum If that was case, he was really “NICE”.

That said, if you want to know why I did post, read below . . . If not, go to a “useful” thread, this is not one.

My initial post, probably came across as very negative . . . this is the reason you should never write an e-mail or post on a forum if you are angry at any level.

Writing will magnify you anger and those reading will pass over all the little things you would normally pick-up in a face to face conversation letting the person you are speaking to you really know your anger is about something trivial and really not worthy of getting upset about.

In the “old days” we wrote it, felt better, put a stamp on it, then tore it up and through it in the garbage can.

Then the only thing we were mad about then was loosing the damn stamp.

I thought I had learned that lesson years ago, but obviously forgot it.

Anyway, below is how I got here . . .

I spent the last two+ years building and outfitting a small shop @ my residence.

In those two years+ I built a metal building, purchased a CNC Plasma Table, (2) Miller Welders, ELLIS Band Saw, Quincy Air Compressor & the list goes on & on.

It seems everyone of those purchases brought some sort of problem to my door as is the case with everything you buy today.

It was either wrong equipment, broke equipment, wrong parts, poor packing or freight problems. (Actually caught a delivery guy stealing out of my shop.)

Anyway there was the daily frustration that nobody does their job now days.

They are all digitally handicapped (iPhone permanently attached to left their hand).

They never “really” leave home. They don’t think about their jobs anymore because they all stay connected to home, friends & family while at work.

Enough of that . . .

Back to when I received the KMG in April, first thing I did was check for damage. Opened the box, peaked in, everything looked fine.

It was packaged better than anything else I had received so far. So well packaged, I have re-used every piece of the packing material for something else.

I put the KMG and all the components next to my desk & it sat there for almost 5 months while I fought the last of the shop battles.

This past weekend I finally had a break & decided to set-up my KMG.

When I opened the main box enough to remove the grinder and started unpacking all the other boxes I noticed the things I mentioned in my original post.

Just when I thought all my battles were over, here I was looking at what I thought was another one.

One that I could not even go back to the manufacturer about since it had been sitting on my desk for 5 months.

Well I was wrong on what I thought was not right on the grinder as far as line up of pieces and parts.

Actually Bob explained that to me as I was ranting at him.

As to rust spots, I seriously doubt I would have bought a new gun costing less than 1/2 of that and not unboxed, cleaned and wiped down before storing.

I live in Louisiana, indoors or not . . . high quality stainless steel rust here . . . so I’m sure 5 months of sitting on my floor did not help.

My sincere apology to all I offended & to those who felt I offended their friend Bob Frink.

While I am a “wanne be” knife maker, I originally joined this forum because I like knives, collect Randall Combat Knives & most recently looking for advice as to the best built grinder for my shop for my intended use. I am still confident I will be very happy with my KMG from Beaumont.

Steve in Louisiana . . .
 
Hi Steve.. Glad you have calmed down enough and took a good honest look at your post and realized you sounded like a self entitled little jerk.


I own a KMG and it is a very nice piece of equipment . To sum up the machine it is no nonsense and hard working. Yes there are many fine a machines out there that are more refined but the KMG is a honest machine. I don't know Rob and I am not a fanboy . I try to tell it like it is. Shop talk has been taking a beating lately but it is my go to sub forum . To hear you be disrespectful to Nathan and Andy was disappointing especially since you really have not been involved much with the forum and we should really try to stick together instead of alienate each other. I really hope we can move forward and if you have any questions that I may be able to help you with feel free to pm me

Mark
 
I take issue with the "little" comment, it took me 60 years of poor food choices to get to the size I am now . . . :-)

I'm not turning my computer on when the moon is full again . . . the bad part of it is I am usually the one yelling "call the vendor before you post" . . .

I thank you for your comments . . . now I have to wait and see if Bob has a secret switch to turn me off remotely . . . :-)

What do you mean by "shop talk has been taking a beating" .? It seems pretty busy, at least compared to other forums I frequent.

Also back when I ordered it my intention was to disassemble it and paint or powder coat.

Now I think I'll just go cleaned as needed as Bob recommends

Thanks again,
Steve

Marko3 said:
Hi Steve.. Glad you have calmed down enough and took a good honest look at your post and realized you sounded like a self entitled little jerk.


I own a KMG and it is a very nice piece of equipment . To sum up the machine it is no nonsense and hard working. Yes there are many fine a machines out there that are more refined but the KMG is a honest machine. I don't know Rob and I am not a fanboy . I try to tell it like it is. Shop talk has been taking a beating lately but it is my go to sub forum . To hear you be disrespectful to Nathan and Andy was disappointing especially since you really have not been involved much with the forum and we should really try to stick together instead of alienate each other. I really hope we can move forward and if you have any questions that I may be able to help you with feel free to pm me

Mark
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PT Doc said:
I am sure that Rob it's aware of this thread.
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I hope you are right . . . I sent an e-mail APOLOGY with read receipt and haven't gotten anything back yet. . . .

I'm not real good at adjusting my tone based on the situation & this sometimes causes irreparable damage to relationships.

"Attacking ant - Baseball Bat" "Attacking Rabid Gorilla - Same Baseball Bat"

I'm sure he is a little busy. I cost him a good 30 minutes yesterday . . . I probably need to buy something so he can get his time back . . . :-)

Thanks,
Steve
 
sdemars said:
Thank you Esav for re-opening this thread . . .

I actually asked that this thread be deleted, but was told that is very rare to do that, so I thought re-opening would serve the same purpose.

I don’t want this thread or what it became to used two years down the road to beat up on Beaumont Metal Works while I am standing in front of my KMG bragging about what an ass kicking grinder it is having long forgot about a few rust spots I found on 150+ pounds of machined steel.

I will be re-editing all my post to read “....”, if you quoted anything I said that is negative towards KMG, please do the same.

If it is something that just makes me look like an ass, feel free to leave it.

“I SHOULD NOT HAVE POSTED ABOUT A PRODUCT WHILE ANGRY”

Sure as hell not prior to talking to the vendor FIRST ! ! !

Like a one poster said, maybe Bob read your post BEFORE you called him. . . uuuuuuuuum If that was case, he was really “NICE”.

That said, if you want to know why I did post, read below . . . If not, go to a “useful” thread, this is not one.

My initial post, probably came across as very negative . . . this is the reason you should never write an e-mail or post on a forum if you are angry at any level.

Writing will magnify you anger and those reading will pass over all the little things you would normally pick-up in a face to face conversation letting the person you are speaking to you really know your anger is about something trivial and really not worthy of getting upset about.

In the “old days” we wrote it, felt better, put a stamp on it, then tore it up and through it in the garbage can.

Then the only thing we were mad about then was loosing the damn stamp.

I thought I had learned that lesson years ago, but obviously forgot it.

Anyway, below is how I got here . . .

I spent the last two+ years building and outfitting a small shop @ my residence.

In those two years+ I built a metal building, purchased a CNC Plasma Table, (2) Miller Welders, ELLIS Band Saw, Quincy Air Compressor & the list goes on & on.

It seems everyone of those purchases brought some sort of problem to my door as is the case with everything you buy today.

It was either wrong equipment, broke equipment, wrong parts, poor packing or freight problems. (Actually caught a delivery guy stealing out of my shop.)

Anyway there was the daily frustration that nobody does their job now days.

They are all digitally handicapped (iPhone permanently attached to left their hand).

They never “really” leave home. They don’t think about their jobs anymore because they all stay connected to home, friends & family while at work.

Enough of that . . .

Back to when I received the KMG in April, first thing I did was check for damage. Opened the box, peaked in, everything looked fine.

It was packaged better than anything else I had received so far. So well packaged, I have re-used every piece of the packing material for something else.

I put the KMG and all the components next to my desk & it sat there for almost 5 months while I fought the last of the shop battles.

This past weekend I finally had a break & decided to set-up my KMG.

When I opened the main box enough to remove the grinder and started unpacking all the other boxes I noticed the things I mentioned in my original post.

Just when I thought all my battles were over, here I was looking at what I thought was another one.

One that I could not even go back to the manufacturer about since it had been sitting on my desk for 5 months.

Well I was wrong on what I thought was not right on the grinder as far as line up of pieces and parts.

Actually Bob explained that to me as I was ranting at him.

As to rust spots, I seriously doubt I would have bought a new gun costing less than 1/2 of that and not unboxed, cleaned and wiped down before storing.

I live in Louisiana, indoors or not . . . high quality stainless steel rust here . . . so I’m sure 5 months of sitting on my floor did not help.

My sincere apology to all I offended & to those who felt I offended their friend Bob Frink.

While I am a “wanne be” knife maker, I originally joined this forum because I like knives, collect Randall Combat Knives & most recently looking for advice as to the best built grinder for my shop for my intended use. I am still confident I will be very happy with my KMG from Beaumont.

Steve in Louisiana . . .
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Great of you to apologize. Not cool to delete your posts. Seems like you have a lot of problems with everything you buy. Attention to detail can bring this out is all of us though. Get your kmg together and grind some steel. Time to move on.
 
Thanks . . . on I am moving . . .

P.S. Buy $100,000.00+ worth of equipment & try to have it delivered to your residence . . . trust me, everyday is a battle . . .shippers, truckers, vendors, etc . .

Post were deleted to help reduce possible negative impact to the vendor.

Thanks,
Steve
 
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Good on you for the change in the lasts post Smedmar. I knew a son of Louisianna (I'm a Cajun) would right the ship. I'm sorry for going at you so hard.
 
Well Steve,
What part of Louisiana are you in? My wife has family there and we have been threatening to come visit. Once you get up and grinding, feel free to ask me any questions. I will gladly help you if I can.
 
Ha. A Cajun too. I'm from Rayne.
 
Rayne, "The Frog Capital Of The World" . . . .

Played a show there once 15+ years ago. . . We did Kettle Korn . . . That is hard core Cajun Country. I'm originally from Avoyelles Parish. Marksville, LA the cochon de lait.

Would know it, anybody that can make beautiful knives in his sleep would be a Cajun . . .

Take care,
Steve

P.S. I ordered some extra platens, Nathan suggested that for my current purposes his would be sort of overkill.
 
Put ceramic liners on the platens. Belts destroy flat platens quickly. Some more than others and the best IMO (Blaze) are the most destructive. Some folks epoxy their ceramic onto there, but I use double sided tape. I don't know if my way is better but I've seen it done by others here too. I suspect that a couple of small drops of superglue would do it fine and be easiest to clean up, but I've not changed from the tape. Once your ceramic liner is on there, be careful when you ajust your tool rest or you'll break it. IE, watch any newbs or shop guests when they adjust the rest on your flat platen.
 
sdemars said:
Thank you . . .

Who sells glass platens that fit the KMG?

Like carpet tape?

Steve
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This is the glass platen liner to fit the KMG : http://usaknifemaker.com/ceramic-glass-platen-liner-flat-platen-2-x8-x-0-192.html


I recommend against a platen for the application you described. Snagging off plasma slag will be better done with a contact wheel and a ~60 Blaze belt. A wheel cuts faster, smoother and will probably double the belt life in that application

If you still want to use platen for that, I'd just used a regular mild steel platen. Glass is somewhat fragile and might be better suited to fine grinding rather than the rough grinding I'm envisioning.
 
Fiddleback said:
Put ceramic liners on the platens. Belts destroy flat platens quickly. Some more than others and the best IMO (Blaze) are the most destructive. Some folks epoxy their ceramic onto there, but I use double sided tape. I don't know if my way is better but I've seen it done by others here too. I suspect that a couple of small drops of superglue would do it fine and be easiest to clean up, but I've not changed from the tape. Once your ceramic liner is on there, be careful when you ajust your tool rest or you'll break it. IE, watch any newbs or shop guests when they adjust the rest on your flat platen.
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As far as mounting the Ceramic glass goes I've used superglue and double sided tape. The tape will allow you to use both sides of the glass since it will get grooved up after awhile.

I don't use the glass for hogging off on a initial bevel grind or profiling. As Nathan mentioned, a contact wheel works faster and is easier on your belts.

I have two platens for my Hardcore grinder. One with the glass and one without. Only takes a minute or so to swap them out for the different uses.

I use a 6 x 48 sander to true up the platen flats and roll the edges every so often.
 
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