BENCHMADE SPECIAL EDITION BAILOUT M4 / TITANIUM

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The Presidio 2 (model 570) is a lot of knife for the money. Benchmade still has a lot of different knives that are high quality and not overpriced.

I am disappointed that they have stopped offering a wide variety of butterfly knives which I think is a rightful part of their heritage.

I am glad they continue to make axis locks instead of the usual variety of prone to failure cheap crap low QC liner, frame locks, and button locks without safeties etc... . that seems to be proliferating both high end and low end markets.

I would like to see coil spring axis locks become standard for Benchmade. The torsion spring in the narrows is alright but I like a simple drop in coil spring better .

The ompga springs work fine but are elaborate and very proprietary. On the bright side good quality aftermarket omega springs are widely available in a wide variety of sizes for more than reasonable prices.

The omega springs on the manual Fact are a different shape than the omega springs on other Benchmade models. I wonder if they have after market springs for the Fact.

Benchmade button lock autos have safeties that lock the button in both closed and open blade positions which a lack of would be a deal breaker for me. I like secondary safety locks on manual button lock knives too. I you don't like it don't use it keep it switched off.

Someone like me would be so sick of crappy liner and frame lock knives that (speaking for myself especially) that they are totally scratched off the purchase list no matter how nice they look. The same with button locks that lack a safety switch. For someone like me Benchmade does a lot of things right except for those crappy ("early lockup" garbage most likely I don't like skimpy crap lock engagement that's for fools) Adamas models that may as well be slip joints (have they fixed this issue yet?)

I don't know who all these other people are that say otherwise but they are not speaking for me.

I don't think the founder of Benchmade is anti 2nd amendment but rather liked to suck up to local political cronies for special treatment/favors I am almost sure there are other American companies that are bigger low life pond scum like, for instance, GM.

I think BM needs to pay mind to how many potential customers can be locked up and unable to buy BM products if they are jailed for things that should never be crimes before making political contributions to people who will throw Benchmade under the bus too in a heart beat if it benefited some off the wall vote garnering witch hunt.

That said I would still buy BM products. They are high quality and 100% (as far as I know) American made, Do they have some weird off the wall prices (very high) on some of their products, yes but I would have to say only a few. Some people try to make it sound like everything they sell is priced likewise when in fact it is not the case.
 
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Does anyone actually have evidence that this knife is retailing for $600?
So rather than go and google it, you’re just going to say “I’ll bet 50 people are wrong”?
Even still, I keep coming back to "If you think it's overpriced, don't buy it."

The great thing about a capitalist market is makers have the right to price their wares at whatever they want. And buyers are free to spend their dollars however and wherever they choose.

Any attempt to regulate that and the slope gets real icy real quick.

Won't the dollar votes ultimately decide anyway? If these sit on dealers' shelves, Benchmade is probably smart enough to evaluate their next moves.

Posted by a guy with zero benchmades and zero plans to buy any.
You know what else is great about capitalism and free markets? You can’t tell us we can’t talk about it. 😘
 
So rather than go and google it, you’re just going to say “I’ll bet 50 people are wrong”?

You know what else is great about capitalism and free markets? You can’t tell us we can’t talk about it. 😘
I didn't say either one of those things. I asked a legitimate question. I'm free to do that on a discussion forum without googling it. And you can't tell me I can't. 😘

You actually posted a reasonable workaround solution for those that want it.

Talk about it all you like. That doesn't change the fact that Benchmade can charge whatever they like and they don't need permission from anybody here.😘
 
Does anyone actually have evidence that this knife is retailing for $600?

Even still, I keep coming back to "If you think it's overpriced, don't buy it."

The great thing about a capitalist market is makers have the right to price their wares at whatever they want. And buyers are free to spend their dollars however and wherever they choose.

Any attempt to regulate that and the slope gets real icy real quick.

Won't the dollar votes ultimately decide anyway? If these sit on dealers' shelves, Benchmade is probably smart enough to evaluate their next moves.

Posted by a guy with zero benchmades and zero plans to buy any.
Agreed, I think what's happening here is the market is not liking the price and won't buy lol No regulation suggested, maybe if these don't sell they'll rethink the prices 🤷🏽
 
My point is the Benchmade brand is not overpriced in general. These few very high priced BM items are the exception not the rule.
 
Well that just ridiculous, and the classism just makes you look ignorant. I have more than a handful of knives that are over $1,500 and I think Benchmade’s most recent pricing on some of their lines is insane, out of touch, and just plain GREEDY. Like many other companies, they’re counting on the name of the company to carry them. I honestly wonder what Les De Asis would think of all this. It has nothing to do with how much money someone makes. The value just isn’t there for what Benchmade is putting out on some of their lines.

This coming from a guy with a Benchmade with $700 plus invested into it.
If anyone looks ignorant it is the guy that misused the term classism.

It is dumb and annoying to complain about the cost of stuff you dont have to buy.
 
If anyone looks ignorant it is the guy that misused the term classism.

It is dumb and annoying to complain about the cost of stuff you dont have to buy.
If it annoys you, you can always.. you know.. just not participate. 🤷 But if you’re going to stick around and defend Benchmade, tell us why you think the knife is worth $600. 😏
 
If it annoys you, you can always.. you know.. just not participate. 🤷 But if you’re going to stick around and defend Benchmade, tell us why you think the knife is worth $600. 😏

I dont know that it is worth 600. I am sick of hearing people complain about the price of something they wont buy. It is polluting the forum and making everyone that reads it a bit dumber.
 
I dont know that it is worth 600. I am sick of hearing people complain about the price of something they wont buy. It is polluting the forum and making everyone that reads it a bit dumber.
If people never complained about cost, how else would a company know it’s charging too much? You can be mad.. but this is part of the process.
 
If people never complained about cost, how else would a company know it’s charging too much? You can be mad.. but this is part of the process.

You could not be more wrong. The way a company knows they are charging too much is by looking at sales metrics. This is the only way.
 
You could not be more wrong. The way a company knows they are charging too much is by looking at sales metrics. This is the only way.
Wrong. Absolutely incorrect. Pricing is not the only factor considered in gain and loss of market share, and surveying the customers and doing research helps understand.
 
Maybe instead of crying about people complaining the cost is too high, defenders of the butterfly tax could attempt to justify the cost? I won’t hold my breath.
 
Wrong. Absolutely incorrect. Pricing is not the only factor considered in gain and loss of market share, and surveying the customers and doing research helps understand.

This is either an incredibly naive or disingenuous take. People whining on forums is not in any way surveying the customers or market research.
 
Maybe instead of crying about people complaining the cost is too high, defenders of the butterfly tax could attempt to justify the cost? I won’t hold my breath.
I dont care to justify it. I think it is high. I just am sick of hearing from the people that wouldnt buy it anyway and think we care. Do you complain about Kobe beef and Bentleys?
 
This is either an incredibly naive or disingenuous take. People whining on forums is not in any way surveying the customers or market research.
You don’t think people complaining about the cost of a knife on one of if not THE largest knife forums in the world (with Benchmade representation mind you) means anything? Now THAT is “naive”.
 
You don’t think people complaining about the cost of a knife on one of if not THE largest knife forums in the world (with Benchmade representation mind you) means anything? Now THAT is “naive”.
If people buy it, all the complaining in the world wont matter.
 
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