Bladeforums Knife 2015 - Which knife??

[neeman]

I'll try and answer this. If Charlie disagrees I'll edit.

Common sense and fair play tells me that if you think you might buy one or the other of these, please vote. If at the time of order you don't have the funds, don't worry about it. A vote here doesn't lock you into the purchase.

If you have no interest in and no intention of buying the Traditional Forum knife, please don't vote.

thank you

 

[SA Condor]

Hello Charlie, any idea how long this poll will run? You have us an end date with the last poll.

OK folks, here we go!
Which knife will have the honor of representing our enjoyment of this place where we hang out??

There have been some nice ones in the past, as you can see above!:thumbup:
We are starting out with Stainless Steel this year, 440C.
Our knife will have single spring construction with two blades, in a serpentine pattern at approximately 4" long.

Great Eastern's proposal has bolsters, and jigged bone handles.
Option:The secondary blade can be changed if we choose this knife.

Canal Street's proposal has no bolsters (Barehead), and fancy wood handles.
Option: We can have a different shield if we choose this knife.

 

[Peregrin]

Hello Charlie, any idea how long this poll will run? You have us an end date with the last poll.

From the page where the polling results are displayed;
This poll will close on 07-11-2015 at 04:29 PM

 

[SA Condor]

From the page where the polling results are displayed;
This poll will close on 07-11-2015 at 04:29 PM

Thanks!

 

[tdkfm]

I voted CSC, but man I am already kinda sad it isn't looking like the GEC is gonna become reality. That knife in stainless with a different secondary would be pretty awesome. Wish they had made an actual prototype

 

[Dr. Scott]

Wish I could put the GEC clip blade on the CSC. Both cool looking knives. This is a more difficult decision than I expected. Can we just have two this year?

I can see what you mean. I'm hoping that, like last year, the runner up knife will be produced as well. For example, if GEC looks at the vote and sees that 100 people voted for their knife, that might be enough of a market to produce it anyway, even if the CSC knife wins.

I'm really dreamin' now. Wouldn't that be great to get both knives!?

 

[Ernie1980]

With enough interest I bet the company that doesn't win the forum knife would still make the protype into a production knife.

 

[rockgolfer]

I can see what you mean. I'm hoping that, like last year, the runner up knife will be produced as well. For example, if GEC looks at the vote and sees that 100 people voted for their knife, that might be enough of a market to produce it anyway, even if the CSC knife wins.

I'm really dreamin' now. Wouldn't that be great to get both knives!?

And if they made it with 1095

 

[abcdef]

gec..

 

[supratentorial]

Thank you gentlemen. I really appreciate the insight and explanation. I too do like a thin in the pocket with full size handle, but, to me this CSC is aesthetically unappealing. INHO, there is no wow factor. Again, in my view, putting the BF stamp on something it should be deserving of it both functionally and aesthetically. In the end it doesn't matter since I will get whichever wins, I was just trying to understand the overwhelming number of you voting for this model..

There aren't many shadow patterns around so I thought it might be helpful to see some photos. Here's an old Schrade from a collector up North. Those who appreciate history might find it interesting that Canal Street Cutlery was formed by cutlers from Schrade and they acquired a part of the old Schrade facility.

...There are a couple of Schrade Waldens, an 881 with composite handles, and an 882Y with birdseye rivets. So what have you got in your "stock", or in your pocket??

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's an open forum and there are people with different interests and tastes.

Shadow patterns are somewhat plain by design. Saying the knife is "ugly" is a bit like saying a blue t-shirt is ugly. You either don't like t-shirts or you don't like the color blue.

Some folks may prefer something a bit more fancy

...or maybe bedazzled

I'm joking but some knives look "bedazzled" to me and other folks like them. People have different tastes.

 

[Sonnemann]

There is an obvious move toward the CSC, and has been from the beginning. I'm just sad that it's not going GEC's way given their willingness to make us a big yet slim multiblade knife in 440C. I don't have enough experience with CSC but it seems like they deal in stainless pretty often, whereas with GEC it's a struggle to get them to make more.

Ah well, I'm excited to see what the process produces regardless. Heavy preference from me for an extreme wood (lignum vitae) on a shadow pattern.

 

[supratentorial]

There is an obvious move toward the CSC, and has been from the beginning. I'm just sad that it's not going GEC's way given their willingness to make us a big yet slim multiblade knife in 440C. I don't have enough experience with CSC but it seems like they deal in stainless pretty often, whereas with GEC it's a struggle to get them to make more.

Ah well, I'm excited to see what the process produces regardless. Heavy preference from me for an extreme wood (lignum vitae) on a shadow pattern.

I agree about GEC and 440C. Given the option of swapping the spey blade to a sheepfoot, I like the GEC knife also. With that combination of blades, both the CSC and GEC knives are something that I would actually carry and use.

For the CSC, I would prefer yellow micarta as a tribute to the oldies. But I do think the becote is attractive and durable. I could also go for ebony or lignum vitae.

 

[meako]

If someone with more knowledge of this than me (which is limited to approximately 78% of the world's population:thumbup can assuage my fear of birdseye rivets I would be most grateful.
The reason is this-the only BER I own .

This is how I bought this one-Schrade 835Y but I feel this is a design fault-the scales being to narrow at the pivot points.
Perhaps that batch of delrin wasn't up to scratch.Perhaps some ham fisted ogre owned the knife-hard to say.
Obviously techniques and materials have improved over the intervening years since this was made but I am leery of the birds eye rivet because of it..
It won't prevent my getting the BF 2015 in any case...edit...if it gets voted in that is

 

[Biggie_Robs]

I agree about GEC and 440C. Given the option of swapping the spey blade to a sheepfoot, I like the GEC knife also. With that combination of blades, both the CSC and GEC knives are something that I would actually carry and use.

For the CSC, I would prefer yellow micarta as a tribute to the oldies. But I do think the becote is attractive and durable. I could also go for ebony or lignum vitae.

Awww yeaaaahhhhhh! Probably not viable, but I haven't heard NO from CSC yet.

 

[supratentorial]

If someone with more knowledge of this than me (which is limited to approximately 78% of the world's population:thumbup can assuage my fear of birdseye rivets I would be most grateful.
The reason is this-the only BER I own ....

I think that may be why Sonnemann suggested lignum vitae. I've never owned a shadow pattern with wood handles but I have several barehead patterns with ebony and some have survived 100 years. I suspect that pretty much any material would be a better choice than the plastic used on those old knives. But I can't assuage your fear.

 

[supratentorial]

The GEC design looks like the secondary blade would be uncomfortable to use with the large clip blade protruding as it does. Square bolsters on a 4” frame isn't very pocket friendly. The proposed jigging in straight lines isn't the kind I prefer...

Here's a photo of the Abilene stockman with the spey open. The clip blade rises about 3/8" above the handle. It's manageable but it could be improved a bit. I'm not sure if the knife proposed by GEC is exactly the same but it appears so. Like you, I also prefer round bolsters instead of square bolsters on large patterns.



Here's a side by side comparison of a GEC Abilene and a CSC serpentine stockman.

 

[meako]

I think that may be why Sonnemann suggested lignum vitae. I've never owned a shadow pattern with wood handles but I have several barehead patterns with ebony and some have survived 100 years. I suspect that pretty much any material would be a better choice than the plastic used on those old knives. But I can't assuage your fear.

Thanks for that Jake-i'm a bit assuaged but could definitely use some more assuageriasation...assuagementising...assuageing?

 

[sitflyer]

The CSC knife seems to be making a mad dash for the flag, has the nick placement on the secondary blade been addressed, as to which side it will be on?

 

[supratentorial]

Thanks for that Jake-i'm a bit assuaged but could definitely use some more assuageriasation...assuagementising...assuageing?

Accidents happen. I dropped this Moore Maker from pocket height onto cement. I ended up just gluing it back together. Hopefully both CSC and GEC are willing to make repairs for a reasonable fee.

The CSC knife seems to be making a mad dash for the flag, has the nick placement on the secondary blade been addressed, as to which side it will be on?

The spines of the blades will be even so the nick will be placed on the pile side.

 

[meako]

I think my old Schrade can be healed with supaglue. I'm also assuagierising my self with the knowledge that the bf csc and the old schrade are very different builds:thumbup: