Boink, a real jerk, can not be trusted.

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Code 3 are you so obtuse that you didn't realize that by me saying hey kevin, could you remove the links, implied that if you as a moderator could remove them I would appreciate it. Then you repost the link, lots of respect going on there. You are now banned from the USN, have a nice day.

Oh still waiting for my apology for trash talking. Better hold my breath as its coming on now right....


I am done here.

You have a forum "owner" who runs to the defense of every troll and halfwitt that he can find. Just so long as they buy a $30 membership. You have moderator that sends e-mails that will make a Navy Chief blush. You have idiots and flame wars, and don't do a thing to stop them. When you finally ban someone, you let them re-register under a new name the next day. Just to start the trolling cycle over and over again. Just ignore them they will go away :rolleyes: It doesn't work that way, as you have proven over and over again here.

You take positive contributing members and make them hate this place. This place could be a shining example of sharing of ideas and friendship, but you would rather have moderator move posts of knifemakers showing off their work.
When members try to rally to a cause and help a friend in need it is stoped cold. Suck a trolls tip until he buys a membership. Let the kids run wild, because you do nothing to stop it. Have fun as it swirls around and around the porcelain bowl. I could go on and on here, but everyone already knows what I am talking about, those who don't, what difference would it make?

This is not the topic of the post, but yet it has to be said. Sorry to side track it with this breath of fresh air.
 
Originally posted by CODE 3
The link needs to stay, so the readers can see for themselves whats going on.

This should have NEVER been drug over here in the first place, but now that it has, the forum members are entitled to all the information available, so they can make their own judgement.



It wasnt drug over here the evidence was found here. The evidence to the fact that Boink knew there was a problem with this knife.In fact the same problem Pontiaker said he had with the knife.It was advertised as new condition even after being sent back to the maker to repair the same problem that started this mess.What I cant figure is why Boink was so sure Pontiaker screwed up his knife when he knew it had been sent back for the same problem before.If it had been advertised just back from the maker to fix blade play I bet this would have never gotten out of hand.Here is the link: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228654 Scroll to the bottom. (edited to add link Doh!)
 
Pontiaker. Nice job. You accomplished what you wanted to. It wasn't to warn people about dealing with Boink, it was to stir up sh#t. Why else would you drag up a month old thread at another forum, tell them you posted over here and for them to check out your post over here?

As for folks that hate this forum. Cool. You are entitled to your opinion. But why do you keep reading and posting here? If this forum sucks that bad, STAY AWAY. Don't use our bandwith.:rolleyes:

Edited to add.

If you sell a knife and the buyer is not happy with it, return their money. Only way to do business.
 
Gentlemen - Here is something clear that should not be overlooked.

Even if someone was to say I went completely dirty and sought to bamboozle the man and we argued bitterly - a finish to an argument is a finish to an argument - deal is reversed and then some - apologies given and we go our separate ways. Did my time in the lockup.

Coming over here one month after a resolution and stirring the ashes is a sucker punch.

Is that fair statement?

I say what type of man, after a resolution, comes back and blindsides his former opponent, who's going about peacefully?

That, to me, is vindicating by showing the very nature of someone who perpetrates and - perpetuates - an attack.

Folks who continue to argue merits, pro or con, over look this fact and the very debate of a dead, but unfortunate, incident keeps it alive and that is what is sought after by the thread starter.
 
I have to agree with the last two posts.

Also, just in case I am ever tempted to visit usn, please ban me now.

Thanks.
 
Since I haven't ventured into that other forum, I'm glad it was posted here. I learned a lot.
 
Originally posted by Eich1911
Code 3 are you so obtuse that you didn't realize that by me saying .....
I am done here. You have a forum "owner" who ....... I could go on and on here, but everyone already knows what I am talking about, those who don't, what difference would it make?

This is not the topic of the post, but yet it has to be said. Sorry to side track it with this breath of fresh air.

Kyle - I don't support nor deny any of your assessments, but know that USN and this forum both have strengths, weaknesses and differences. That's what makes the world go 'round. Don't expect this forum to meet any narrow definition you perceive to be "the way it should be." Can't we all try to get along?

In my apology note to you I said I loved my stay at USN and saw it as a family I will miss. I meant that.

By the same token, some folks over there are judgemental and holier than thou and won't settle for anything less than a lynching, having me permanently pilloried and then, after all that, having my head on a pike.

Coming over here one month after a settlement is a cheap shot. It's a sucker punch.
 
Gentlebeings, discussion of policy is always welcome here. Our policy is never to censor evidence that's been posted on TGB&U, and naturally that includes links to evidence elsewhere on the net.

Many of the members have acquired the habit of saving any evidence we think might disappear to our own hard drives. Urls can be changed to make a link invalid; if the link is updated the urls could be changed again or the evidence deleted from that website, but once the members have downloaded and saved it, it can't be censored. The evidence in question is currently at http://www.usualsuspect.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12638 It might not be there much longer; we have no control over that.
 
Originally posted by CODE 3
I see the thread is still there, but the posted links here will not work.
The link to the same thread as posted by Pontiaker and Cougar Allen both work fine. I do see that your link is missing some characters which will affect redirection. I won't post the link again as there are two viable ways to get there.
 
USN is not the sort of place that ordinary civil knife nuts want to frequent.
It is run by a mafia for their own enjoyment.
Unless you are a pseudo Rambo and part of the inner circle, be prepared to be a butt-licker for as long as you remain a member.
I am amazed that some high profile makers would want to link their products to such a place.
 
I would hope this doesn't become a forum bashing thread. We've been there done that and it wasn't any fun. There are some good folks on the other forum and none of the forums have a monopoly on a$$holes.
 
That's enough!
The USN didnt come here and post this, Pontiaker did.
The matter was resolved awhile ago.
If it had originally happened here, there would have been just as much piling on as happened there, it always happens when there's a pileon when an injustice happens.
The USN asked for links to be removed as Spark has asked in the past that there not be cross-linking and I think Eric feels the same way.
Pontiaker doesnt represent USN, he's not a moderator, and isnt even listed as a Suspect.
He was dead right, but reposting this late, he is now wrong.
Oupa, you're a maggot who didnt fit in, so take your pot shots.
USN is not for everyone. It was never meant to be. If you want a general, all inclusive forum, that's what BF is here for.
 
Originally posted by oupa
USN is not the sort of place that ordinary civil knife nuts want to frequent.
It is run by a mafia for their own enjoyment.
Unless you are a pseudo Rambo and part of the inner circle, be prepared to be a butt-licker for as long as you remain a member.
I am amazed that some high profile makers would want to link their products to such a place.

I resemble that remark ! I post on USN , BF and KF as well as 1911forum . That is like saying if you drive a Corvette you are going thru a midlife crisis and have a bad hair piece .
I happen to really enjoy the hell out of the OPEN FORUMS on USN .
And some of those Hi Profile makers either did or do have a membership here as well.

For a place that is run without a membership fee required they sure as hell are doing well.


I dont think this needs to turn into a USN VS BF war does it ?

This holier than thou crap flat out sucks !
We all have the same passion for the blade. Allot can be learned on all forums.
Said by someone earlier...Move along ...nothing left to see here.

As to whether I am a buttlicker or a pseudo Rambo , I aint neither I am just someone who enjoys great blades and great people to discuss blades with , but it dont sound like you are one of them sir .
 
Discussing policy on another website here is pointless -- post it there where it could accomplish something.
 
I have expressed my opinion, the same as you have yours.
The perception that I have of the place is underwritten by the responses to my opinion.
Nothing can be discussed in a civilized, decent way.
If you do not dance to their tune, name-calling and threats are forthcoming.
You have just proven the point.
I rest my case.
Right or wrong - Boink never had a chance.
 
Originally posted by oupa

If you do not dance to their tune, name-calling and threats are forthcoming.
You have just proven the point.
I rest my case.
Right or wrong - Boink never had a chance.

I have proven what point ? Nevermind :rolleyes: For what it is worth , I don't give a squat about the whole Ford Vs Chevy debate...wait wrong forum...Porsche Vs Vette...oooops Boing Vs Pontiaker .:D

I have no vendetta against anyone at all....well you can not count Hillary and Janet Reno right .

Either way last post from me on this subject.
We will just agree to disagree...fair enuff ?

Regardless...Hope everyone has a KNIFE HOLIDAY !

Now lets get back to buying, selling and trading blades shall we ?
 
The reason that the links were provided was to give people background as to what it was that Pontiaker was complaining about. The fault for those links being here resides completely with Pontiaker for bringing this here when it should have died long ago. If he wanted to crucify Sava, he should have done so back at the beginning, before this had all been resolved.

The links being here are not the fault of Kevin, Mike or any of the other moderators of BladeForums. They are left here because they are part of the evidence, not to in some way try to harm USN.

As has been stated before, this is not a BladeForums vs. USN thing, so why don't we stop trying to make it one. These are two totally different communities that do things in a different way and each has their share of great guys, *******s and everything in between.

As far as the original topic of this thread is concerned, Sava was wrong, he should have rectified the situation sooner, but he has recified it and this should be over.

I believe that things like this should be brought to the attention of the members here, but I also believe that there is a correct time to do this and that correct time has long passed.
 
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