Buck 110 weight, Reality Check

I've got the black paperstone. I don't think the balance is much different though the difference in weight is obvious and
Pleasing.
 
This knife weighs in at 5 and 3/4 ounces on a certified scale. It's indicator is calibrated in ounces. A mere 1 & 1/2 ounce less than a std. 110. So, the difference is small. If the model had G10 scales or some heavy material like that one would notice more difference. Only the Bucklites can save you more weight. But then you end up in short order with blade wiggle. So, I don't understand making a big deal about the weight of a 110 when the pants your wearing is 10 oz. denim. DM
 
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eveled said:
After 30+ years of daily carry, most on my belt some in my back pocket. I can say this the weight never bothered me once. If anything, the heft was comforting.

Don't underestimate the striking force you can generate with the butt of a 110 in an emergency.

When I have to be a little covert, I carry it in my back pocket. Sometimes with, sometimes without the sheath.

By accident,
I found if you put it in your pocket in the sheath and sit on it all day it gets the leather back into shape, and molded around the knife. So now I do it on purpose when the sheath starts to get weird.
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I love this answer. It's there when you need it, even blade closed.

I am experimenting with Aluminum. Easy carry, still a strong material, but no doubt a trade-off in striking force and impact due to less weight. Also, I hope the blade stays tight.

You can't beat the orignal, that's for sure.
 
How does brass help keep the blade tight compared to hardened aluminum (or titanium)?

Weight <> durability
 
Here's some weights from my scale.
Standard 110: 7.25oz
Oak w/ 5160 110: 7.125oz
Drop Point 420 110 (top): 7.375oz
560 Titanium: 4.5oz
Barehead, slightly thinned 110 w/ canvas Micarta (middle): 5.5oz
Barehead, slightly more thinned 110 w/ canvas Micarta (bottom): 5.25oz



 
eveled, that's an accurate statement.
Pokt, thanks for these figures. Mine agree with yours. I'm surprised the 560's Ti frame is that light. Plus, it has a strong headed pivot pin that holds it together. I'll have to pick me up one. DM
 
BuckShack said:
You tell me. I guess there is nothing to worry about then. :thumbup:
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There is nothing to worry about, cause if the soft Brass or Nickel gives out you just send back to Buck. They will repair or replace it. In the real world of hard use Knives no one would use these soft materials, IMO.
 
David Martin said:
eveled, that's an accurate statement.
Pokt, thanks for these figures. Mine agree with yours. I'm surprised the 560's Ti frame is that light. Plus, it has a strong headed pivot pin that holds it together. I'll have to pick me up one. DM
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I carry my 560 in a canvas sheath and it's hardly noticeable. Until I pull it out for something then all the women and children scatter and the sheep start writing letters to their politicians.

All kidding aside; I love my 560 and whenever I'm in an atmosphere where I can carry a real knife, it's the one I pack around. I didn't think about weighing an Ecolite 110 before I got rid of them all.

The pivot pin in the 560 is stainless while the brass 110 has a brass pin and the NS 110 has a NS pin (but you already knew that:thumbup:).
 
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Xr6x said:
There is nothing to worry about, cause if the soft Brass or Nickel gives out you just send back to Buck. They will repair or replace it. In the real world of hard use Knives no one would use these soft materials, IMO.
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The nice thing about the "soft Brass or Nickel" is that it's not easily broken. In the "real wold of hard use knives", I'm not counting on a folder anyway... any folder. In a hunting knife like the 110 (hence the "Folding Hunter" moniker), I have little concern about brass, NS, or aluminum. You're cutting meat and hide, not trees and shrubs. IMHO
 
MT_Pokt said:
The nice thing about the "soft Brass or Nickel" is that it's not easily broken. In the "real wold of hard use knives", I'm not counting on a folder anyway... any folder. In a hunting knife like the 110 (hence the "Folding Hunter" moniker), I have little concern about brass, NS, or aluminum. You're cutting meat and hide, not trees and shrubs. IMHO
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Very true &#128077;
 
Anything that has over 15 million sold and been around for over 50 years has probably had its fair share of hard use.
 
MT_Pokt said:
I carry my 560 in a canvas sheath and it's hardly noticeable. Until I pull it out for something then all the women and children scatter and the sheep start writing letters to their politicians.

All kidding aside; I love my 560 and whenever I'm in an atmosphere where I can carry a real knife, it's the one I pack around. I didn't think about weighing an Ecolite 110 before I got rid of them all.

The pivot pin in the 560 is stainless while the brass 110 has a brass pin and the NS 110 has a NS pin (but you already knew that:thumbup:).
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MT_Pokt said:
The nice thing about the "soft Brass or Nickel" is that it's not easily broken. In the "real wold of hard use knives", I'm not counting on a folder anyway... any folder. In a hunting knife like the 110 (hence the "Folding Hunter" moniker), I have little concern about brass, NS, or aluminum. You're cutting meat and hide, not trees and shrubs. IMHO
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Like you, I don't see any difference in any functional durability in bolster material between NS, brass, and hardened AL. Brass is more malleable and responds to heat differently, and AL can work harden and break when repeatedly flexed. This is why my Svea camp stove is brass and not AL, why bike frames are often AL and not brass (too flexible) and why bike forks are (almost) never AL (they tend to snap) or brass.

Schrade used to make a big deal that their 7OTs used harder, more durable stainless pins that were less likely to deform than Buck's brass pins.

Anyway... all this to say that there's no reason to think that brass bolstered 110 will be any more durable than a hardened AL bolstered 110, at least that I can see. Weight <> strength. Heavier doesn't mean stronger.

If the AL bolstered 110s use stainless pivot pins (they shouldn't use AL I think), I would expect those to be stronger than brass pins.
 
Makael said:
Anything that has over 15 million sold and been around for over 50 years has probably had its fair share of hard use.
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And I'am sure there fair share of failures. It's all ok, I too like the 110 as you. I have been around and remember when everyone carried a 110 . Look around, you rarely see anyone with one, not like in the passed. If you didn't have A 110 you wished you did, those days are gone. There will be till the end of time people that love to collect them and all there variations and I totally understand that. I for one would love to see Buck come out with a bomb prof style 110 is all not to take away or hurt any one feelings. Brass and Nickel are very nice to look at and using a 110 for what it was intended is just fine . The 110 in my hand feels Great ! In my pocket not so Great! In the sheath is fine. I personally don't like carrying folding knives in a sheath. I love the Vantage , I've said it to much I know. But I love the blade of the 110 too. I would just like it if Buck would come out with the same look of the classic 110 with start of the art technology and stronger construction so if and when you need to use it in a emergency situation you don't need too send it back. &#128077; I don't care what Buck calls it and please keep making the heavy 110 for everyone that can't live without. &#129299;
 
Excellent thread. I carried a 110 for years. The past few years not as often. I love my 110 but need to get use to carrying it again. I mentioned it in the past I started conceal carrying again 2 years ago after not carrying for 14 years. In doing so moving the 110 to the left side just seemed weird and my wife bought me a Griptillian. While the Griptillian imho is not as nice as the 110 is does slip nicely into my right front pocket. But I do miss carrying my 110. The heft of it never bothered me. I might play around with carrying it again. I really find the Silver Knight editions alluring.

I will say I've become spoiled with one handed opening.
 
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kyhunt said:
Excellent thread. I carried a 110 for years. The past few years not as often. I love my 110 but need to get use to carrying it again. I mentioned it in the past I started conceal carrying again 2 years ago after not carrying for 14 years. In doing so moving the 110 to the left side just seemed weird and my wife bought me a Griptillian. While the Griptillian imho is not as nice as the 110 is does slip nicely into my right front pocket. But I do miss carrying my 110. The heft of it never bothered me. I might play around with carrying it again. I really find the Silver Knight editions alluring.

I will say I've become spoiled with one handed opening.
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KY hunt
I need your address. Your Sheath is ready. I tried to email.
 
I just received this from Norman S.. He has several remodeled 110's, Bucklights and 560's with their weights in ounces. Tastefully done. So, with permission I'll include this in this topic. Thank you Norm. DM
 
His third one down on the left side is a pleasing model for you gents that want a light weight 110, it's the 111 Buck Classic. You can still find them in the bay. They have a hard aluminum frame, engraved (stamped) and a 440C or 425M polished blade. Just add a thumb stud and you have 95% of what you wanted. He added a pocket clip as well with a coated blade. So, more that what you wanted. Buck brought these out back in 1981. DM
 
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