Buck using Sandvik?

Jerker/Razorsharp244,
Thanks for your input. The overwhelming majority of us appreciate learning about different steels, especially those used by our favorite knife company!! Please overlook 334dave and his comments. I believe he means well but sometimes just gets carried away. He has acted up before on this forum - we just try to show him a lot of grace. He is speaking only for himself.
In terms of edge retention, ease of sharpening, corrosion resistance and cost, can you give us an idea as to how the Sandvik steels being used by Buck for 2009 stack up to 420HC?
Thanks,
Larry
 
Jerker,

Ditto what Larry said...keep coming around. I would love to hear what you have to say in regards to Larry's question above.

I've been reading your posts over in the Kershaw side of things and appreciate the info you share with us. g
 
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Ok so thats what we want to do today? Were gonna fight? :rolleyes:
I'm coming into this topic unarmed so I have nothing to add in regards to that but I can propose that we play nice. :)
 
Larry Oden said:
Jerker/Razorsharp244,
Thanks for your input. The overwhelming majority of us appreciate learning about different steels, especially those used by our favorite knife company!! Please overlook 334dave and his comments. I believe he means well but sometimes just gets carried away. He has acted up before on this forum - we just try to show him a lot of grace. He is speaking only for himself.
In terms of edge retention, ease of sharpening, corrosion resistance and cost, can you give us an idea as to how the Sandvik steels being used by Buck for 2009 stack up to 420HC?
Thanks,
Larry
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Good questions Larry. I linked to the site Jerker provided, and I'm curious to know if the heat treat involves belt or batch furnace(and what the difference is), and the cryo quench. It shows 59 & 60 Rockwells, I'd also like to know how it performs against Bucks S30V, and if the Sanviks are prone to micro chipping. I'm just not at all familiar with Sandvik steels:o
 
I too echo Larry's comments and would be interested in learning more about the various Sandvik steels and differences with 420HC and other steels we are more faliliar with.

I spent some time on the link Jerker provided and learned a lot. Thanks!
 
Joe Houser said:
Ok so thats what we want to do today? Were gonna fight? :rolleyes:
I'm coming into this topic unarmed so I have nothing to add in regards to that but I can propose that we play nice. :)
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C'mon Joe..coming here unarmed, you should have some Sandvik;) Who did the field testing with this new steel...and how did they like it?
 
Larry Oden said:
Jerker/Razorsharp244,
Thanks for your input. In terms of edge retention, ease of sharpening, corrosion resistance and cost, can you give us an idea as to how the Sandvik steels being used by Buck for 2009 stack up to 420HC?
Thanks,
Larry
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:thumbup: We need to know!!! :D
 
Messersmith said:
I too echo Larry's comments and would be interested in learning more about the various Sandvik steels and differences with 420HC and other steels we are more faliliar with.

I spent some time on the link Jerker provided and learned a lot. Thanks!
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I believe Jerker stated that it meets or exceeds 420HC in every category. On an unrelated not, I read that STR liked one version as his favorite steel. It was a low to mid grade Kershaw type hardened at 64 Rockwell. Apparently, according to him, it is the most versatile stainless around. It can do anything if hardened at various levels. Whatever is desired, can be achieved.
 
Razorsharp244 said:
Geez, if any of you other guys want my input I'll be in the Reviews and Testing forum. I meant to inform about our company and product since there was several misunderstandings in this thread alone. Even you learned a thing or two 334dave. But nevermind I'll leave.
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hay razor - first i appolgise...really i do..
i have nothing ageist you personally nor your company and should not have directed that i was upset or had strong feelings on any thing agenst you ..
as you said you were only offering advice and information..

many here do want to know what you have to say..
you have nothing in what others do with your steel..
and i really should not worry what others do with what they get from you..truly if it dont concern me i should keep my yap shut..

again i am sorry i offended you..
i should not have..

i do get over board some times when i type in response to things with out thinking things over first. i should not but some times it jest happens..
and in no way do i reflect what many others feel on the subject..

this subject of marking USA on imported items is a touchy subject with many, but not most, here in this country..but i am one of them..

BTW:
i did find out this evening that your steel will NOT be used in the 110
and that is really all i care about..
it will also not be used in the line of the traditional fixed blades such as the 119 and others like it..
so no fighting and i will behave ..
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Dave,
That Indigo Blue knife has a bead blasted blade with a Custom Shop stamp. Is that unusual? I have to admit its the only one I've ever seen.
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Here's another, you used to be able to get that finish from the custom shop.

I ordered it on my Elk 110.

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naw he was armed with Haebbie's knife!
they are good ones .. i have one also..
it sits on the table beside the bed..ugh..
so i can cut my apple at night!
 
334dave said:
naw he was armed with Haebbie's knife!
they are good ones .. i have one also..
it sits on the table beside the bed..ugh..
so i can cut my apple at night!
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Dave, that's nice to read. I hope the skinner cuts your apple perfect. But I don't know a lot about the steel.



The knife Joe used for his Elk has a not rustfree carbon blade that I forged by myself. Also I made the heat treatment. For this job I used a barbecue and a hair dryer for glowing, a slim glass rose vase filled with diesel for quenching, and the wife's baking oven for tempering to dark blue. And it seems that this treatment works. Many thanks for the kind comment, Joe!



Best,
Haebbie
 
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334dave said:
hay razor - first i appolgise...really i do..
i have nothing ageist you personally nor your company and should not have directed that i was upset or had strong feelings on any thing agenst you ..
as you said you were only offering advice and information..

many here do want to know what you have to say..
you have nothing in what others do with your steel..
and i really should not worry what others do with what they get from you..truly if it dont concern me i should keep my yap shut..

again i am sorry i offended you..
i should not have..

i do get over board some times when i type in response to things with out thinking things over first. i should not but some times it jest happens..
and in no way do i reflect what many others feel on the subject..

this subject of marking USA on imported items is a touchy subject with many, but not most, here in this country..but i am one of them..

BTW:
i did find out this evening that your steel will NOT be used in the 110
and that is really all i care about..
it will also not be used in the line of the traditional fixed blades such as the 119 and others like it..
so no fighting and i will behave ..
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Thanks for the apology. It's always a bit difficult coming into a new forum but I am starting to learn I guess. Enough about that, I'll try to keep up with your questions now.

I try my best to answer "objectivly" but i am of course a bit biased since I represent a specific supplier.
//Jerker
 
Haebbie said:
yes, Flatlander, I am responsible for both ;)
no, Joe got the knife with the sheepsfoot blade and the birch skin handle.
Best,
Haebbie
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humm how to put it ...
guess i saw them first.. sorry joe .. glad you like the one you got!
mine works well on skinning apples!
 
Razorsharp244 said:
It's always a bit difficult coming into a new forum but I am starting to learn I guess. Enough about that, I'll try to keep up with your questions now.

//Jerker
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:cool:...Glad you came back Razorsharp244 ( Jerker ). Informed comments from anyone who is or will be involved in the production of Buck knives is always welcome. This is a great bunch of people here in the Buck forum. As your product is used in the various Buck products and actual reviews of that product come in, I'll look forward to your input on those reviews. I've have and do use knives with your product and I am very pleased with it. Buck's processes can only make that product even better. Stick around...:)
 
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