what is all this about a "Californian" crowd?i say bring the big guns!
Whoa Whoa...California crowd. Im in Cali and I take my NMFBM to every camping trip. The problem isnt that your friends are from Cali, its that they are a bunch of PU$$%^$!!
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Whoa Whoa...California crowd. Im in Cali and I take my NMFBM to every camping trip. The problem isnt that your friends are from Cali, its that they are a bunch of PU$$%^$!!
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You ask for advice on what you should do, but I think the best I can offer is my thoughts on what I would if I were in your shoes. I would not bring out the big 'uns if that would make things awkward for friends. I can't expect all my friends to love guns and knives as much as I do (heck, I know very few people who do). If I tried to force that on others, I'd be a lonely person. So if it were me, I'd chill, and just enjoy my buds and not bring something out which would interfere with us just enjoying each other. I don't believe that's a compromise - if asked, I tell people straight up what I love and value. Otherwise, I try to keep it a bit to myself and just look for common ground. I think that's what is lacking in society - we fail to look for common ground. Good luck, and I'm wishing you a great time in the outdoors.
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Is this the only trip you do each year? If not, then leave the big ones at home this time. I think there's a time and place, and even though the "place" seems appropriate, this may not be the right "time".
Eat some food, play your guitar and impress some girls.
Then go on another wood-harvesting trip later in the summer.
Have fun!
Well that was the plan. After all as I said this isn't really a hike or anything extreme, so bringing a big blade isn't really anywhere close to necessity. Therefore I'd rather avoid all sorts of conflict. And unnecessary alienation from the people that I am in contact with. But I just found myself confronted with the question an I thought it would make for a valid discussion point.
The thing is, I never used a large blade before for camping chores. I would usually pair an ax or hatchet with a mid size blade. So me showing them how its done, well, lets just say will look less then impressive. My reasoning for bringing the blade was so I can get some practice, as I mentioned grow a little bit.
Although here is a conflicting point, if I bring the AK47, I'm sure everybody would love to go at a tree or something, heck I'd love to just go berserk with it on a tree, for no other reason then how awesome that would be. And nobody would protest, matter of fact, they just wouldn't be able to believe that I just took that show piece then went on to crazily smack everything, then wiped it of and it looked new. I'm pretty sure I'd have all of them lined up to abuse it. Same thing happens when the air rifles were introduced, as it seemed fun to plink stuff.
And I only have one fixed blade knife right now, (UG is still on the way, so 2 in time for the trip) its a mean looking coated HOFSH, that would make Rambo weak in the knees. SAR8 looks like a great knife for this, I just don't have one, and would just love to try one. So yeah if anyone has a user SAR8 or any other Busse kin user that is sheeple friendly I'd love to borrow one, I'd pay the shipping both ways. Would be awesome to try other designs then the ones I've already seen.
And I say California crowd, to emphasize my predicament, all of them are California university breed. None of them are crazy extreme but being around wackjobs for 4 years does rub off the wrong way.
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About legalities. California isn't as strict about gun/knife laws, granted they are tough on guns with whats legal and whats not. But c'mon the drop test, is a nice test to know your gun passed. No more then 10 rounds in the magazine, if I need more then 3 then I'm in deeper then I should be. And shotguns are still legal, so for SD in my environment I wouldn't look anywhere else. Technically you can get a carry permit here. So no I'm not bashing California.
What annoys me is that fixed blades have to be clearly visible (I'm not talking about LA County, but campsites.) I'd just carry my knife upside down under my left arm or behind my back under the jacket so as not to freak anybody out, but the knife has to be visible by law. If these were people I didn't know I would take the knife without a second thought. And I plan to.
I was thinking going for hike once every two weeks or so this summer, just take one knife with me and some food, walk about the forest built a small fire relax next to it, cook my food, relax some more go home. I'll bring the dogs along and just train them out there. And I don't care what other people are thinking I'm gonna be relaxing. This thing is a bit different, these are the people I hang out with, and they will not say anything but I don't really feel like turning things so they would subconsciously try to avoid me.
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I, myself am torn on this one. If it were a bunch of guys drinking beer around a campfire I would say, without hesitation, bring the big ones and teach them. But since this seems to be more of a sing songs around the campfire situation, then some discretion could be used when it came to big knives. I went hunting one time and brought along an RMD and all of the guys there kept commenting on how big that knife was. That was one of the first times I realized most people can't fathom a NMFBM. Just use some common sense and discretion but definitely bring along a big knife.
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Yep...
Sheeples are like a virus that need some good antibiotics IMO...
Screw them and do what you want. :thumbup:
It's a freaking camping trip you know. :thumbup:
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Well if you have'nt used your HOGFSH do a bit of reading up on technique and do a bit of practise before you go .... use it to see if the grips are comfortable as well .... you might want to sand down any areas giving you "hot spots" .... no sense getting blisters .... and just use the knife sensibly and you will be fine ....
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If your uncomfortable taking it, Id pass. However, if your confident, and just use the knife when it is needed I think it will be fine. This is one of the reasons why I got a character leather sheath for my Mistress. Just looks less like a weapon.
Id bring mine, and just have fun with it. If you have fun and be responsible, people most likely wont care. If they do care, well your probably better off without em. Present yourself like a creep with a big knife and you probably will get bad responses. YMMV
Id bring mine, and just have fun with it. If you have fun and be responsible, people most likely wont care. If they do care, well your probably better off without em. Present yourself like a creep with a big knife and you probably will get bad responses. YMMV
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If I want to walk around without pants that's everybody else problem!
I went camping with some friends about 10 years ago, and that guy was there.
Don't be that guy. :barf:
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I missed the part about women being along and if your single and trying to score....
don't take the big ones...they might think you are trying to make up for something
and not realize the importance and power of such a big tool
don't take the big ones...they might think you are trying to make up for something
and not realize the importance and power of such a big tool
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I missed the part about women being along and if your single and trying to score....
don't take the big ones...they might think you are trying to make up for something
and not realize the importance and power of such a big tool
Nah, they will see the importance of that big blade when the fire gets going etc.....
That is if they have any brains in their heads at all.
Oh wait we are talking about Calf here aren't we..... ROFL...
Calf and NY sheeples..... :barf:
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1-3 will have to wait. (my friends understand my knife thing, because if they didn't they'd have a hard time explaining to me their expensive pens, lighters and watches) there are only about 2 friends that are going on that trip, the others are good acquaintances, comrades if you will, but I don't consider them true friends. So I might be good with friends I got, they are just far away.
3-6 I will do.
Shame on you for hanging out with people that don't like big knives
Take it and have a good time. Don't get drunk and swing it around but show people what a big knife can do when used responsible
Besides you guys, people who like big knives are usually really creepy. I mean seriously unless its a Busse or Busse kin why would you like big blades (just kidding).
Yep...
Sheeples are like a virus that need some good antibiotics IMO...
Screw them and do what you want. :thumbup:
It's a freaking camping trip you know. :thumbup:
Hehe, I'll just do what I feel like when the time comes. But until then, I'm willing to entertain all kind of ideas.
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Do what you would normally do camping and dont forget to wear your camo.
There needs to be another California knife get together.
There needs to be another California knife get together.
First of all, sorry to hear about your friends!! 
Sadly, most of my wife's family is the same. Makes me ill! :barf:
My first "Reflex" thought is that I would want to find other friends - at least in regards to sharing my valued camping and outdoors time with. I don't want to have my camping experiences spoiled by Sheeple. But, that is me.
On the other hand, you have a responsibility here! :thumbup:
I try to do my part to SHOW certain sheeple the values of a good knife as a "TOOL". Sadly, most still don't seem to get it or appreciate it and can still only see knives as VICIOUS weapons of harm and death. :grumpy:
But, "Some" seem to develop a bit more appreciation.
All you can do is continually try to make your best effort to appeal to the reason, rational of certain sheeple (good luck) and keep trying to show how valuable knives are as "TOOLS".
You can't give in and let them win.
+1
I wouldn't take your whole HORD of INFI or the ones you feel might "Frighten" the poor timid Sheeple. But, take the ones you really need and will use. However, if your needs "Do" dictate needing a big NMFBM, I believe in using the right tool for the job. If an axe or saw would work better, use an axe or saw. But, if you need a couple of other knives for camp, trail, pocket, etc. - TAKE them. Use responsibly and as needed.
Some Busse blades might look a bit "Combat" Rambo to some Sheeple. But, other people might at least appreciate that "YOU" value them as tools. Maybe they can't appreciate them for themselves or their family, but hopefully if you show them right, they can have an appreciation that knives can be TOOLS that have a purpose for many!
+1
Sadly, there are some die-hard sheeple out there that just are not too likely to be easily turned to the "Rational" side.
EXACTLY!!! +1
I agree..... Mostly.
Unfortunately, the "Majority" rules in this country. States like California have already made carrying many common and useful sized knives illegal. The knife community is LOOSING in California and similar liberal states and cities around this country. If not careful, the ENTIRE country could loose to those who believe knives are more dangerous than useful!
So, there is a pretty be responsibility to YOUR OWN RIGHTS along with hopefully any further help that can be provided to the rest of the knife community to help "EDUCATE" the Sheeple. It can be tricky. But, I feel a constant effort needs to be made to help at least make Sheeple appreciate that knives are important to many and NOT always weapons of harm and death. They CAN BE and VERY often are VERY USEFUL tools.
I disagree with those who see this as a joke and want to SHOVE it in the face of the Sheeple.
Even with showing the Sheeple how useful tools are and can be, there is a HIGH probability you won't turn most of them into knife advocates.
If done right, you might at least get "SOME" of them to appreciate that knives do have a valuable use to many people.
Do it wrong, by flaunting and taunting Sheeple with knives that intimidate them Could VERY well curse the knife community in the long run. People vote for laws one way or another. If enough people fear knives, their elected politicians can pass laws to remove our rights.
Many don't believe this. But, look around. Look at how many cities and states have cracked down on knives around our country. Look at other countries like England and Australia where carrying knives is becoming a MAJOR issue these days.
Good luck.
Sadly, most of my wife's family is the same. Makes me ill! :barf:
My first "Reflex" thought is that I would want to find other friends - at least in regards to sharing my valued camping and outdoors time with. I don't want to have my camping experiences spoiled by Sheeple. But, that is me.
On the other hand, you have a responsibility here! :thumbup:
I try to do my part to SHOW certain sheeple the values of a good knife as a "TOOL". Sadly, most still don't seem to get it or appreciate it and can still only see knives as VICIOUS weapons of harm and death. :grumpy:
But, "Some" seem to develop a bit more appreciation.
All you can do is continually try to make your best effort to appeal to the reason, rational of certain sheeple (good luck) and keep trying to show how valuable knives are as "TOOLS".
You can't give in and let them win.
+1
Heck with the Sheeples,.....
Show them what they can do as tools.
If you do it right it could be a real learning experience for them.
I wouldn't take your whole HORD of INFI or the ones you feel might "Frighten" the poor timid Sheeple. But, take the ones you really need and will use. However, if your needs "Do" dictate needing a big NMFBM, I believe in using the right tool for the job. If an axe or saw would work better, use an axe or saw. But, if you need a couple of other knives for camp, trail, pocket, etc. - TAKE them. Use responsibly and as needed.
Some Busse blades might look a bit "Combat" Rambo to some Sheeple. But, other people might at least appreciate that "YOU" value them as tools. Maybe they can't appreciate them for themselves or their family, but hopefully if you show them right, they can have an appreciation that knives can be TOOLS that have a purpose for many!
+1
Once you give them a safety talk/run through on using the Axe .... showing how missed swings need to be allowed for by positioning of your feet .... the wider blade and easier to use NMFBM starts to make sense .... even to Sheeple ....
Sadly, there are some die-hard sheeple out there that just are not too likely to be easily turned to the "Rational" side.
EXACTLY!!! +1
I agree..... Mostly.
Unfortunately, the "Majority" rules in this country. States like California have already made carrying many common and useful sized knives illegal. The knife community is LOOSING in California and similar liberal states and cities around this country. If not careful, the ENTIRE country could loose to those who believe knives are more dangerous than useful!
So, there is a pretty be responsibility to YOUR OWN RIGHTS along with hopefully any further help that can be provided to the rest of the knife community to help "EDUCATE" the Sheeple. It can be tricky. But, I feel a constant effort needs to be made to help at least make Sheeple appreciate that knives are important to many and NOT always weapons of harm and death. They CAN BE and VERY often are VERY USEFUL tools.
I disagree with those who see this as a joke and want to SHOVE it in the face of the Sheeple.
Even with showing the Sheeple how useful tools are and can be, there is a HIGH probability you won't turn most of them into knife advocates.
If done right, you might at least get "SOME" of them to appreciate that knives do have a valuable use to many people.
Do it wrong, by flaunting and taunting Sheeple with knives that intimidate them Could VERY well curse the knife community in the long run. People vote for laws one way or another. If enough people fear knives, their elected politicians can pass laws to remove our rights.
Many don't believe this. But, look around. Look at how many cities and states have cracked down on knives around our country. Look at other countries like England and Australia where carrying knives is becoming a MAJOR issue these days.
Good luck.