Camping with sheeple and big Busse blades.

Take the hatchet and the biggest damn knife you own.

When you pull out the knife and ask what the hell it is, tell them it is a Malibu machete...you couldn't afford a cheap machete after you paid $500 for this Busse version.

Then tell them it's all the rage these days.
 
PeterPHWS said:
Well if you have'nt used your HOGFSH do a bit of reading up on technique and do a bit of practise before you go .... use it to see if the grips are comfortable as well .... you might want to sand down any areas giving you "hot spots" .... no sense getting blisters .... and just use the knife sensibly and you will be fine ....
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Its a custom shop FSH with real comfy custom smooth grips, its one of the most comfortable knives I've handled ever. Well I can't switch grips on it as easily as I did with TAK handle, but in a regular grip which is probably the best for all camp chores its a dream. And I have been reeding up and doing it small scale with mid sized knives. Just want to get more practice, thats why taking it on a trip would be nice.

Thats what I did with my other Busse knives when I went camping before with people I didn't know. May do that again. But still I'm talking about actually pulling out what these people will perceive as DorkOps blade. And that perception alone would be insulting.

knife hunter, after last camping fiasco, and it wasn't anything short of a fiasco (I'm sooo gonna hear about that on this camping trip) I'm not scoring anything.

jbombelli, Joe :thumbup:
 
SLAY THEM ALL!

Sorry, I'm stuck in the same boat. I finally just gave up and welcomed the verbal assaults and the moniker of "insane large knife psycho" and kind of rolled with it. People acclimate faster than you expect! :D Seriously, Keep it legal and rock out with your Busse out like I do.
 
Man, I reckon you don't even draw attention to it. Just use it to split would and as a general tool and put it away when you're done with it. People won't even bat an eyelid. Unless of course you're making kindling or slicing the tomatoes with a MOAB :)
 
LOL .... I have a few tales about people finding the NMFBM scary .... and these guys were in the Services .... usually it is when they realise how sharp it is that the "unsettling" doubts start to creep in .... :D:D At the end of the day tho' you cannot spend all your life worrying what others think .... usually you can have a laugh about "weird reactions" .... if you act like it is just a sensible tool for your needs most people are fine ....
 
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gimmejr said:
Do what you would normally do camping and dont forget to wear your camo.


There needs to be another California knife get together.
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hehe, I used to do that, funny, I once somehow ran into (completely randomly) my distant family member on this campsite. And he was captain in the Russian interior ministry forces or something like that. I was wearing camo that led to conversation about combat experience, long story short, and a bottle later, we ended up showing each other different techniques. He had bruised ribs, and I couldn't use my right arm for two days. And we manged to annoy some more "sheeple" (although in sheeple defense it was like 5:30 in the morning, and we got really enthusiastic).

So this time in order to avoid all the negative publicity, I was planing on jeans a sweater and a jacket.

And Cali knife get together sounds fun.



DWRW
Lots of valid points, but before this takes a turn, I would like to remind you that California while not being the most liberal when comes to the knife laws, is far from the strictest, we are not limited by the size of our folder, and mostly not limited to the size of fixed blades, we are also allowed to have daggers, and we can carry swords to public places. There are certain counties that have their own rules and that might get annoying, but over all Cali is a place when one can do a lot more then the rest of the states give us credit for.

Deep Sea, I'll keep that in mind as an excuse if anybody asks, but then I'd have to mysteriously loose the hatchet.

Iboschi
They get used to it fast, but then again, I kinda want to get invited next time we go.
 
Ankerson said:
Nah, they will see the importance of that big blade when the fire gets going etc.....

That is if they have any brains in their heads at all. ;)

Oh wait we are talking about Calf here aren't we..... ROFL...

Calf and NY sheeples..... :barf:
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ANKERSON IS DEAD ON! When you are able to split logs batoning thru them and get a roaring fire going then you'll be the man. Dont take it and start chopping through a log. That might scare the ladies Batoning is a more refined wood cutting method. BUt very effective.

And I also believe that knives and guns arent in the same category. knives are camp tools. plain and simple... viewed no different than axes.
 
Just bring out an AR/AK or the like, fire off 60 or 100 rounds right off the bat and the knife issue will never come up.
 
I would take or borrow the biggest baddest Busse you can get your hands on and just go about wood splitting. It's just a tool if anyone asks.
 
I didn't read this whole thread so bear that in mind...

It sounds like you are very concerned about what others think of you. That being the case you should leave the knives at home and split wood with a small hatchet. I think you posted looking for validation from us, but while you are camping you will be looking for validation from your friends and we will not be there so you will be happier if you try to impress them and not us.
 
Volk said:
About legalities. California isn't as strict about gun/knife laws, granted they are tough on guns with whats legal and whats not. But c'mon the drop test, is a nice test to know your gun passed. No more then 10 rounds in the magazine, if I need more then 3 then I'm in deeper then I should be. And shotguns are still legal, so for SD in my environment I wouldn't look anywhere else. Technically you can get a carry permit here. So no I'm not bashing California.

What annoys me is that fixed blades have to be clearly visible (I'm not talking about LA County, but campsites.) I'd just carry my knife upside down under my left arm or behind my back under the jacket so as not to freak anybody out, but the knife has to be visible by law. If these were people I didn't know I would take the knife without a second thought. And I plan to.
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Although there is some truth to this. Cali has to make blanket laws for knives because there are so many areas with remarkable stabbing rates. I live near such a place. Knives are a much bigger problem than guns here IMO. So many people get stabbed in the news. I read at least 2 local stabbing a week. Cali is different than other places. Knives do need to be regulated here. Its out of control. But i guess it doesnt matter in the end cuz gangs are gonna carry them regardless of the law:thumbdn:
 
^^I disagree.

To the OP. If you do not have the confidence to feel comfortable using and carrying a big survival knife, do not do it. You will look foolish and timid and make people uncomfortable and possibly put yourself in danger trying to show off. This is based on your initial post, since I do not know you personally.
 
it's a tool, and is only really different from any other tool if you make it out to be.

use it for its intended purpose, and don't act like a "big scary knife" guy with a chip.

if you act right, the tool's usefulness will speak for itself.

if not, you'll be the tool...

don't be the tool.
 
Just do what you do man, leave the sheep back at camp. I lived in North East Kali and theres some rugged mountain guys up there, so you can't knock the whole state, but I do know where your coming from. Bring back a fish, hare, snake, or whatever else you manage to catch for food... and don't offer any to them and when they ask wtf, say you worry about you and I will worry about me. :D
 
Cappy2cap said:
ANKERSON IS DEAD ON! When you are able to split logs batoning thru them and get a roaring fire going then you'll be the man. Dont take it and start chopping through a log. That might scare the ladies Batoning is a more refined wood cutting method. BUt very effective.

And I also believe that knives and guns arent in the same category. knives are camp tools. plain and simple... viewed no different than axes.
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I know how effective it could be I used to do it with my BATAC on smaller branches or pieces of wood. it gets the fire going much faster then just hauling logs into the fire pit. Its also fun to do, as its is almost like building something that will work.

drift draft
This is California, we might have problem with AK/AR, but I hear there is only a $500 fine for detonating a nuclear device within Los Angeles city limit. ;)

PorcupineMtns66
I would be happy to borrow any of those big blades you got. I promise to take em with me too. I haven't seen a Busse blade in my life that wasn't 1 of 4 I owned. They are not as easy to come by. And most of the shows Busse Crew attends are on the east coast.

Zombiechopper
I am concerned what those people I deal with think of me because that may effect our interaction. And as I lack proper connections, I try to keep those that I already have (Yes, it does sounds cool not give a damn about what other people feel, and I more often then I should, don't. However I do have to think strategically as my life is fortunately or unfortunately tied to other individuals) I have good friends in front of whom I can do what ever I want, but if I see those guys once a month then its been a good month. It's sort of like politics in Busse forums, as long as we are not touching the subject, then it doesn't matter what you think about it, we can all enjoy each others company without stirring up the hornets nest, because we have a shared interest in something.
The reason I asked this question was because it's something I have never had to deal with before. And I was wondering how the rest of you guys deal with such situation. Because some of you here have extensive experience with big knifes, camping, and other people. I have known about Busse knives since 2007, I only had 4 different models, and the FSH is the biggest one, matter of fact its the biggest knife I ever owned and I got it like a week ago. So I do appreciate all the feedback I get.

GrinderMcgee
The only discomfort I feel about the whole thing is the fact that I have to carry it dangling in front of everybody's face, and thats the law I can't conceal it. It will literally look like I'm sowing off, if it was legal to tuck it away hide it and pull it out only when I was using it, I wouldn't have this problem.

But then again maybe i'm just blowing the whole thing out of proportion the trip is on the 16th of April so its still far away.

Also this has been a fun read for me so far, thanks guys :thumbup:
All and any suggestions are welcome.
 
Cappy2cap said:
Although there is some truth to this. Cali has to make blanket laws for knives because there are so many areas with remarkable stabbing rates. I live near such a place. Knives are a much bigger problem than guns here IMO. So many people get stabbed in the news. I read at least 2 local stabbing a week. Cali is different than other places. Knives do need to be regulated here. Its out of control. But i guess it doesnt matter in the end cuz gangs are gonna carry them regardless of the law:thumbdn:
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You seem rather conflicted. :confused:
I am trying not to get too upset by your comments. And sorry if some of my comments might come as "Against" you. But, sorry, your comments and perspective are very upsetting to read and hear from people who are supposed to be advocating the values of knives.

Good luck figuring things out.


I will stand by MY views on knives. KNIVES are TOOLS!

There is NO JUSTIFICATION for restricting tools from the people. There is NO JUSTIFICATION for STUPID blanket laws. Such laws are control without reason and a HUGE infringement upon freedoms.

Even if knives are viewed as weapons - and clearly they can be. These weapons can be for DEFENSIVE purposes.
I for one would be VERY upset to loose BOTH my ability to have, carry and use knives as tools AND my ability to have, carry and use WHATEVER I need for my defensive purposes - if the need should ever arise.

Same as guns. The KNIVES are NOT the problem. Knives don't kill. People kill.

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Knives do need to be regulated here.
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I can't believe I read that! :grumpy:

If California or whatever area has a problem with people stabbing, gangs, etc. then maybe the voters in California need to VOTE to increase penalties on those committing the crimes rather than take tools and freedoms away from the inocent. Personally, I am QUITE fine with the death penalty.
If someone takes anothers life and sufficient evidence proves against the accused, don't WASTE my tax dollars on keeping them alive. Kill the POS.
Further, don't provide, food, shelter and other benifits to those who have committed such crimes. I get SICK of reading how prisoners get this and that and don't have to do this or that.... all on our tax money. I don't have money to spare for myself, yet alone to keep criminals and murders happy and healthy.



In the "end", you almost seem to be getting it. Blanket laws do NOT take weapons away from criminals. Such STUPID laws take TOOLS and even defensive weapons if so desired away from those who use them for valid reasons and maybe even for defensive purposes.

The criminals - By Definition - break laws. They WILL have weapons even if such weapons are not legal. DUH! And once stupid laws start taking guns and knives away from citizens, the criminals WILL have it THAT MUCH EASIER - without fear of being harmed when attacking defensless citizens.

Stupid blanket laws attempt to turn us ALL into Sheeple!!!! :mad: :thumbdn:

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IMO something like a FBM is less of a weapon than a Butcher knife. ;)

The Busses are tools and most look like what they are, tools. :D
 
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