can someone explain to me why there is a maxpedition boycott?

I will buy and extra Strider or two today.
Many people made mistakes early in life that they regret later, how many rise above it and come as far as Mick did 10 years later?
Mick is my friend and I hope he considers me the same. I judge people by how they live and treat me since I've known them, their past is not my concern.
Many,many of us did alot of things when we were younger that if we were caught doing could have been a jackpot. Who among us is without sin?
 
Oilman, I agree with you about that. I have no idea who any of these people are in this fight and both sides obviously hate each other which means the stories told by each of them about their "enemy" are probably filled with half-truths at best.

I realize that I don't have the capability to run a background check on everyone I do business with. However, when I'm made aware of something like this it does change how I view that person.

The way I look at it is there are enough non-carjacking, non-ex-con-felons in the knife industry for me to do business with and so I will choose to do business with them first. I like Strider knives, but I wouldn't buy one now.

Some people do make mistakes in their life and deserve a second chance. However , for me, carjacking, like home invasion robberies, is an offense that should carry the death penalty in this country IMO.

I personally don't want anything to to with an ex-carjacking felon no more than I would want to do business with an ex-con murderer or an ex-con armed robber or an ex-con rapist or an ex-con child molester or someone who was dishonerably discharged from the military. This is just my personal opinion. Hell, I don't think the military even accepts ex-cons in the service....I may be wrong on that one.

This isn't about Strider, per se, but about anyone commiting this type of despicable act. I'd feel the same toward one of my kids if they ever were involved in something like this.

Is Strider, or whatever his real name is, a really nice guy? He may be the nicest guy in the world.
 
Sigh...let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. A wise man once advocated this simple premise. From the tone this thread is taking...rehabilitation and forgiveness are no longer tolerated.

Sidenote...we seem to have strayed very far from the original question, first posted. The question was asked and answered.

Sorry, if I've added to the circus.
 
> rehabilitation and forgiveness are no longer tolerated

Contrition, humility and repentance are prerequisites to forgiveness. Its not enough merely to have your bad acts exposed.

best regards
 
OMG Let it end... this isn't helping anybody and in fact it only causes more pain and BS.... who gains from this garbage? I can spew a few facts about MadDog Knives that would not put a favorable light in your eyes for him either but what difference would it make. You people (RWS) want to do business with a person who has never done crime before well it is not possible as everyone you know has probably broken or fractured some law or rule somewhere... because NONE OF US are perfect.... I also find it amusing that you would put carjacking up there with child-molesting... but hey what do I know maybe you were carjacked as a child.... Mick has been a friend of mine for many years and I know him to be an honorable man it is a pity you won't get to find that out first hand.

As for MadDog's letter.... yet another way he can say his piece without being accountable kinda like how registration on his forum went down right about the time he started this over on his forum.... and as for people being banned and not banned it gets switch on and off as fast as you can blink..... Mick did answer the questions put to him the thing is he should not have had to.... this matter is over 10 years old the statutes of limitations have expired let this garbage die.
 
I am a Striderite.

I have served in the company of Heroes, but I am not one. I know misery and have felt the sting and agony of defeat. Like many other Striderites, I have stood copious watches in foriegn lands, while Americans back home pursue thier dreams. Yes, now after years of civilian disservice, Im no longer as hard or as dedicated as I once was, but I still haven't forgotten what it took.

A warrior might loose his edge over the years, but the life forming bevels that establish that edge last forever. A warrior, reguardless of current affiliation, has served. Not only served but lived that life of sacrifice. Sometimes the warrior sacrifices it all in a relatively short period of time. Remember a Ranger Pat Tillman? He served in the Batt roughly the same ammount of time as Mick. Rangers more than police thier own, they remove those who dont belong. Still Rangers support Mick Strider, and it's no wonder why. Its because he is a fallen comrade, and they are sticking by his side and thier Creed.

Maybe it hasnt been stated clearly enough to you WANNABEES. McKlit especially, since his record is shadey and his story changes with every new emergiance of these attacks. You who attack Mick Strider, and his supporters, are doing so out of ignorance (you wouldn't know an Operator if you hit 0 on the phone) and out of sheer jealousy. You didnt get the contracts that Strider WON. Which makes them all Poor Loosers. Contrary to previous statements you have made, it is about knives and selling alot of them. Maddog, and the rest of that Rat Pack need to dig up. You are wasting effort. Instead of wasting money on tearing down the competition, you should spend your efforts on improving your products and kit.

In reguards to all the negative do-do in Micks history, that you have paid way too much to spread around, real people dont care. He's served his country, screwed up, paid the price. The slander you are commiting in an attempted public double jeopordy is wrong and deplorable. What he did is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. What is our business is being able to buy knives that we can count on anywhere, anytime. Hell Strider makes shipdates, I hear of way too many servicemen, and LEOs who have never received their Maddog knife. This to me is more deplorable than an Fmr Ranger/ex-con, turned Knifemaker who just so happens to deliver good knives, ON TIME.

Goon Squad, do you fellas Pee standing up? Cause you cant help but act like a bunch of crazy cheerleader moms during Homecoming.

Oh and to answer the question in the subjectline... The reason is that there are other makers of fine gear, who conduct themselves in a professional manner. They deserve our hard earned $ more. Thanks for proving the addege, "there aren't stewpid questions, just stewpid people."

Oh if you want to paint me at the typical Psycho-Striderite who ranted and foamed at the mouth, while typing despondant jibberish... My pulse didn't top 70 beats a minute while typing this. I don't get worked up anymore over this crap. You girls can't seem to drop it, and you sound like an enraged Al Gore,"HE LIED TO US!!!" Your attacks are all quickly becoming repetitive white noise...

***contrary to popular idiot opinion and logic, Mick Strider and Strider Knives Inc., along with Buck Knives, are not responsible nor liable for any and all of this post. I am soley responsible for my own post and opinions and gospel contained within.***
 
lifter4Him said:
I will buy and extra Strider or two today.
Many people made mistakes early in life that they regret later, how many rise above it and come as far as Mick did 10 years later?
Mick is my friend and I hope he considers me the same. I judge people by how they live and treat me since I've known them, their past is not my concern.
Many,many of us did alot of things when we were younger that if we were caught doing could have been a jackpot. Who among us is without sin?
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You are right,I will get a Strider and we have the same birthday.
 
Man, this is some great reading! Fact or fiction, I can just imagine this 'Mickey Ray Burger' character coming to life on the big screen.
 
As to the issue I had with Maxpedition products, I have spoken with Tim Tang via email and consider the issue ended. I appologized for using an open forum to air my grievance about a product of his. It was wrong and I consider it a done deal. I should have dealt with the company directly. As to Kevin's claims...whatever.
 
Dog of War said:
Man, this is some great reading! Fact or fiction, I can just imagine this 'Mickey Ray Burger' character coming to life on the big screen.
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nah I think the movie about that the self-proclaimed, cia trained nin-ja would make a better movie. Hell they made alot of those in the 80s.
 
Well wonders never cease; I like apiece written by C Stamp.
A few quick things, yes I know M Strider personally.
Yes I do own two Strider knives.

One the Maxipedtion ban, I can say I had never heard of Maxipedtion before this. Kevin and his 3 amigos in the shadows claim that Mick is a bad man and inflated his military service record; he seems to base this on the award winning documentary knife magazines that publish knife article. I don’t read to many knife mags but I did read one in 99 that was first time I had seem Striders in print. I kept it for three reasons, the Strider, the cool Brend knife and the fact that my best fiend is mentioned in the Strider article. The article really talked up Duane’s service but does not mention Mick.

Bottom I wouldn’t not buy Maxipedtion gear over US made gear in the first place. Now I will never buy any Maxipedtion, Cold Steel or Kevin Mclung product. Every one can read the stuff on the web and make you decision, if you think the information is accurate.

I can say Cliff hit a subject that wasn’t touched upon, and that is Kevins claims. As soon as the Strider smear campaign was out of the bag, Kevin proceeded to brush out on his own web page. One of his claims was “five” years as a professional soldier, this was later changed to “ two”. My second post there was to call Kevin on this and for my trouble I was banned. This was the post that got me banned and I copied it here where Kevin cant shut me up. I wonder what his mouthpiece has to say in response.




Hello Kevin

I am again asking you to clarify the issue about your claim as a professional solider. I was the one that posted the link to that at Badlands originally. I have read your post (http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=000018;p=2 ) several times and will say you list an impressive amount of qualifications. But as a veteran I am having trouble trying to equate + or – two year working for the companies Ninjaco and Tactronix, in training, sales and design work as a professional solider. Yes I know Mick and yes I own a Strider knife. But from here it looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Your wife locked the other thread with the excuse that people would claim that you were lying, so why should you bother answering. Mick could also use that same excuse.


I will list my qualification below and if there is any doubt I am close enough to drive up to your location to show to you in person with any third party. I will gladly invest my time for this.

4 years 17 weeks US Army
Basic
AIT 13F
Airborne
RIP
75th RGR RGT
While with the RGT I did a ton of deployments. NO COMBAT!
SERE lvl C
Ranger School 03-92
MFF
I was on both the COLT teams and RRD
I also had a very limited a mouth of instruction in martial arts and knife fighting while at the 75th from civilian trainers.

Since the military I have done construction and am currently an LEO, I will be glad to show you any documents.

Thanks for your time
HT

thx for everyones time
 
Maxipedition,not made in U.S.A.,that about sews it up for me.Although,I do have foreign,(British,Aussie,German,offshore stuff) knives,I try to spend my money on U.S.A.made products. :)
 
leatherbird said:
Maxipedition,not made in U.S.A.,that about sews it up for me.Although,I do have foreign,(British,Aussie,German,offshore stuff) knives,I try to spend my money on U.S.A.made products. :)
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I have never met Mick nor Kevin in person. However... I do own several Strider knives and have friends who know Mick well. Mick Strider is a great person and patriot and his product is second to none... What was done to him as part of "smear" campaign (whatever it's motive was) - IS TOTALLY WRONG!!! Trying to find the truth is one thing - but exposing someone's personal life - is another... Bad for the people who did it - they are not getting a cent from me - that's for sure.
 
Interesting stuff. Probably not a lot of peoples business, but it has been made public (right or wrong) so I suppose now it has to play itself out.

Would I buy a Strider? Nope. Although as I have stated before it is because they are not my thing, I suppose if I ever get the urge for something different, I might.

Did Mick lie about his service? Who knows, I have read that he himself has stated being a 'black-ops' person, and others have said it was always somebody else that said it. If thats the case, he has had ample opputunity to set it straight, outright lying or lying by omission are both wrong. If it is a lie, he would be well served to stand up and admit it.

Would I ever trust a car-jacker around my family? Not a chance. But most of the folks I buy knives from are people I dont really know all that well, certainly not well enough to trust my family too. No matter how 'cool' somebody seems on the net, surely you would use caution until you REALLY knew them.

As far as Mick making knives and selling them, hey a guy has to make a living somehow, would you rather he go back to car-jacking?

If you like the knives buy them, I would bet if you were to look carefully at most anybodys past you could find stuff that you would look down on.

Mick, if you lied, or let stories continue that you could have set straight, then get you $hit together and admit it...its apparent you have plenty of supporters as it is, and would probably gain a bit of respect from others. Either way, it does not look like you have to much to worry about business wise, your stuff will probably be selling just as well next year.
 
I have a Strider folder and I have a couple of Maxpedition belt pouches. I have carred the Strider in Maxpedition pouch and they seemed to get along just fine with one another.
 
Well I do know Mick and I would trust him with my family any day of any week... the down side is they would probably stay with him cause I can be a real ******* at times..... I will state for the record that in the 10 plus years I have known Mick Strider I have never heard him claim any of the things that have been credited to him other then he was a Ranger and he makes knives beyond that if you know of everything ever written about you (which I would doubt) and you are not even a semi-famous knife maker.
 
It wont matter to the perfect ones but the carjacking was taking a vehicle for a test ride and making the salesman get out of the car.
Not exactly what one pictures in today's world when they hear the term carjacking.

So a kid makes a mistake, gets caught, pays the price, turns his life around, makes good in business, and we should shun him? I think not.

You know what the bottom line to the group of them posting and emailing all the info around is, dont you?
Strider's gross sales figure for the last few years,LOLOL. The whole thing is about nothing but jealousy. If Strider wasnt so successful you think they'd care?
 
Concerning my comments about the crime, it was in regards to the post Teryl made here :

http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000514

where she comments on the crime and asks :

"[font=Verdana, Arial,stencil]What kind of person is capable of doing something like that?"

My point was a person should not be judged simple by his actions without knowing the circumstances. Plus looking at what he has made of his life since then should obviously be considered. As for some of the posts defending Strider, it pretty much reinforces Kevin's claims when you use name calling and change the subject.

Tha claims made about and by Kevin doesn't change the fact that there are things in print about Mick's military background which are obviously false such as his serving overseas when he was in prison. This is obviously an issue for some, it isn't to me because I never bought a knife based on who made it, but it isn't difficult to see how others could see it differently.

What I find strange is that those involved in the research didn't do some basic work such as contacting Buck and asking where they got the information, or checking the magazines and seeing if they did any fact checking. It would make a big difference if it cam directly from Mick or not. Yes, makers should try to counteract untrue promotion, but there are a lot of intense fans of most makers, it isn't rare to see them go over the top in promoting the knives or the makers.

-Cliff
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I have a feeling it's more about high profile , good ink , and NSN's that Strider has , and McClung et al would like to have . Dragging tired old sins , a man's ex wife/family into it are just plain wrong .

Chris
 
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