Case Tony Bose Collabs pic and discussion thread.

[jeffbird]

Congrats Sven!

Maybe this will help. Some Case knives, like the sowbelly, saddle horn, tribal lock, etc, are not the official yearly Case/Bose collaborations, but will have TBxxxx model numbers.
A thread from way before my time here on BF in 2007:

Case/Bose or not?

Was there a Case/Bose sowbelly ever made? There are two knives (a 3 blade and a 5 blade) up for auction now where the seller says they are Case/Boses. Item #'s 150125581661 and 280118618729QQ No TBose on the second blade and they say Case on the shield too. I'm guessing it is a simple...

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Tony's reply:

• May 27, 2007

These sowbellies and saddlehorns are a regular Case production knife and is their catalog that I designed for them. They are not a Case-Bose colbration that is issued only once a year. They are about $50-60range and offer a good value for no more than they cost. Someone can buy one and take care of it and it will last for years. They are made in the USA by Americans and I'm proud of that.

Old Dog - "If I don't remember doin it, how can I possibly be guilty, dear."

Great response Ironbut, especially the link to Tony Bose’s post. His posts are very interesting.

Randucci,

will add that both the Bose designed for Case’s regular production catalogue and the collabs begin with TB then a model number. The collabs end with the year number such as 1999, 2001, 2002,…

The regular catalogue knives are made with Case’s usual steel choices. The collabs were made with ATS34 followed by 154CM, which is marked on the blade.

See Dennis’ excellent chart a few pages back in this thread.

Had a new addition out today for a photo next to my usual EDC Case Bose Bullnose.

My little collection is slowly growing as I find them at a good price or trade something going unused. These collabs really are a nice combination of traditional patterns made with a modern steel and really nice workmanship.

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

Congrats Sven!


Great response Ironbut, especially the link to Tony Bose’s post. His posts are very interesting.

Randucci,

will add that both the Bose designed for Case’s regular production catalogue and the collabs begin with TB then a model number. The collabs end with the year number such as 1999, 2001, 2002,…

The regular catalogue knives are made with Case’s usual steel choices. The collabs were made with ATS34 followed by 154CM, which is marked on the blade.

See Dennis’ excellent chart a few pages back in this thread.

Had a new addition out today for a photo next to my usual EDC Case Bose Bullnose.

My little collection is slowly growing as I find them at a good price or trade something going unused. These collabs really are a nice combination of traditional patterns made with a modern steel and really nice workmanship.

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Nice WT addition! I’ve been doing the same thing as you - grabbing these when I see a good deal. These really hit all the notes for me - traditioanl patterns with very high quality workmanship. I have one sitting at the post office to be picked up today - the Cattle knife in Chestnut.

 

[Ironbut]

Nice WT addition! I’ve been doing the same thing as you - grabbing these when I see a good deal. These really hit all the notes for me - traditioanl patterns with very high quality workmanship. I have one sitting at the post office to be picked up today - the Cattle knife in Chestnut.

If you like stockmans, I think you'll like the Cattle knife. I carry mine alot. It's roughly the size of a medium stockman, but a bit more hefty, and I like that.

 

[Ironbut]

This page needs more pictures.

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

If you like stockmans, I think you'll like the Cattle knife. I carry mine alot. It's roughly the size of a medium stockman, but a bit more hefty, and I like that.

And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

 

[Angry Waiter]

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And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

Very nice knife! I have one at Case being tuned up. Chomping the bit to have it back

 

[Sventhelumberjack]

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And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

The color of the bone on that exaple is fantastic! Looks like a bed of coals with fire running up and down both sides and in-between! And I agree it is a perfectly sized stockman -- an excellent all-around knife! Congratulations!

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

The color of the bone on that exaple is fantastic! Looks like a bed of coals with fire running up and down both sides and in-between! And I agree it is a perfectly sized stockman -- an excellent all-around knife! Congratulations!

Thank you! I was worried about the color, b/c I couldn’t see pics of the individual knife - purchased from a Case dealer. But, I did do a little happy dance when I opened it up and saw the color and the jigging.

 

[bigfish64]

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And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

Congratulations, it looks fantastic!

 

[dennishy]

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And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

TheIncredibleHoke congratulations on the new cattle knife. It's one I really appreciate because it, like many other collabs, has really thoughtful design. I tend to dislike the tall wharncliffe on cattle knives but understand that they are made that way to allow the blade to be reachable. The little notch on the collaboration knife's handle allows all the blades to sit nice and low in the frame but it's so subtle that it's difficult to photograph.

Fortunately, I've taken to buying camera lenses whenever I strike out sit out a release so here's a very quick attempt to do so:





As well as comparison beside the #35. The viewer will note one major difference is that the Bose Cattle Knife has all three blades accessible from the shield side of the knife. The GEC #35 prominently allows access to the main spear with the nail nicks for the wharncliffe and spey blades facing the pile side.

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

TheIncredibleHoke congratulations on the new cattle knife. It's one I really appreciate because it, like many other collabs, has really thoughtful design. I tend to dislike the tall wharncliffe on cattle knives but understand that they are made that way to allow the blade to be reachable. The little notch on the collaboration knife's handle allows all the blades to sit nice and low in the frame but it's so subtle that it's difficult to photograph.

Fortunately, I've taken to buying camera lenses whenever I strike out sit out a release so here's a very quick attempt to do so:

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As well as comparison beside the #35. The viewer will note one major difference is that the Bose Cattle Knife has all three blades accessible from the shield side of the knife. The GEC #35 prominently allows access to the main spear with the nail nicks for the wharncliffe and spey blades facing the pile side.

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Great photos. You exactly nailed what I‘m digging about this knife so far. Love having the nail nicks all on one side and it does look much sleeker.

I wish I wasn’t so lazy just using my phone for my knife photos. I have a good Sony FF with good lenses. Thankfully, I’m past (I hope!) chasing more lenses.

 

[Will Power]

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And she’s here! First impressions are that it might be my favorite of the collabs so far. I have an Ebony Stockman that I like, but this will get much more use I think. Just a perfect-sized knife. The WT and FF are insane.

Astounding ! It's been on the radar here for a long time but being in Europe presents certain difficulties. Admire that example

Regards, Will

 

[jeffbird]

TheIncredibleHoke congratulations on the new cattle knife. It's one I really appreciate because it, like many other collabs, has really thoughtful design. I tend to dislike the tall wharncliffe on cattle knives but understand that they are made that way to allow the blade to be reachable. The little notch on the collaboration knife's handle allows all the blades to sit nice and low in the frame but it's so subtle that it's difficult to photograph.

Fortunately, I've taken to buying camera lenses whenever I strike out sit out a release so here's a very quick attempt to do so:

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As well as comparison beside the #35. The viewer will note one major difference is that the Bose Cattle Knife has all three blades accessible from the shield side of the knife. The GEC #35 prominently allows access to the main spear with the nail nicks for the wharncliffe and spey blades facing the pile side.

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Beautiful knives and fantastic photos Dennishy.

 

[GusSharp68]

These are such quality knives, I’m glad to see how much we’re all enjoying them. I find it hard to believe that with such limited runs you can find one still available at all. It makes me question whether there’s a counterfeit market going on or if it’s just dumb luck that I found any available at all.

 

[dennishy]

These are such quality knives, I’m glad to see how much we’re all enjoying them. I find it hard to believe that with such limited runs you can find one still available at all. It makes me question whether there’s a counterfeit market going on or if it’s just dumb luck that I found any available at all.

I've occasionally thought about the same topic and I think some of it comes down to price. I know the real answer is multi-faceted but for now I'd like to focus on the price aspect (though I'll forewarn you that it's been ages since I've read The Economist, much less anything about actual economics...)

From what I remember, in an ideal market, price should be at a point where supply meets demand. However, here are a couple examples we might be familiar with in our hobby of acquiring fancy knives:

- Supply is limited because of low production
- Supply is limited because of low accessibility
- Demand is increased because of low dealer pricing (compared to what the average person is willing to pay - e.g. the gap that the reseller market shows, in theory)
- Demand is increased because of desirability

With all that said, and based on my time here on the forums, it feels like there's an 'upper range' of what we're willing to pay for a certain tier of knife. The Case Bose knives present an interesting case of this. At their retail of 600+ they remain available at dealers even today, despite low production runs and otherwise high desirability from a well-known (and collected) brand and designer. However, when they go on sale at retailers today for ~300 it seems like they're more quickly bought.

It seems to me that buyers likely value the collaboration knives 'fairly' at a retailer at ~300-400. Maybe something to do with price anchoring from prior deals? Or maybe it's a similar price bracket to other mid-to-custom slipjoints? Regardless, at the end of the day once all the 'fairly priced' available models find permanent homes the remaining supply ends up being really, really limited and that is usually when I learn about the knife and realize I need it.

Unrelated closeup of how low the secondaries sit on the cattle knife with main blades extended:

 

[GusSharp68]

I've occasionally thought about the same topic and I think some of it comes down to price. I know the real answer is multi-faceted but for now I'd like to focus on the price aspect (though I'll forewarn you that it's been ages since I've read The Economist, much less anything about actual economics...)

From what I remember, in an ideal market, price should be at a point where supply meets demand. However, here are a couple examples we might be familiar with in our hobby of acquiring fancy knives:

- Supply is limited because of low production
- Supply is limited because of low accessibility
- Demand is increased because of low dealer pricing (compared to what the average person is willing to pay - e.g. the gap that the reseller market shows, in theory)
- Demand is increased because of desirability

With all that said, and based on my time here on the forums, it feels like there's an 'upper range' of what we're willing to pay for a certain tier of knife. The Case Bose knives present an interesting case of this. At their retail of 600+ they remain available at dealers even today, despite low production runs and otherwise high desirability from a well-known (and collected) brand and designer. However, when they go on sale at retailers today for ~300 it seems like they're more quickly bought.

It seems to me that buyers likely value the collaboration knives 'fairly' at a retailer at ~300-400. Maybe something to do with price anchoring from prior deals? Or maybe it's a similar price bracket to other mid-to-custom slipjoints? Regardless, at the end of the day once all the 'fairly priced' available models find permanent homes the remaining supply ends up being really, really limited and that is usually when I learn about the knife and realize I need it.

Unrelated closeup of how low the secondaries sit on the cattle knife with main blades extended:

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No doubt you’re right, I do feel that the Case Bose quality justifies the MRSP.

 

[dennishy]

No doubt you’re right, I do feel that the Case Bose quality justifies the MRSP.

I agree. If only affording it was easier! Then again, no matter what excuses I tell my wife, I know that my want for all of these shiny objects is deeply irrational.



Didn't have the right lightning, or really nail the focus here but i'll chalk it up to testing out a new lens. And that photography is hard.

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

Astounding ! It's been on the radar here for a long time but being in Europe presents certain difficulties. Admire that example

Regards, Will

Will, I can’t stop staring at it this damn thing. I think I might be obsessed. It’s sitting right by my iPad while I listen to a new Andrew Hill album and having some beers. Cheers!

 

[TheIncredibleHoke]

I’ve often had the same thought G GusSharp68 , but I think D dennishy is getting it right. These are priced just a tick beyond what most knife nuts are willing to spend. Hence a fair amount still out there. I guess I’m just a little bit more nutty than the average knife nut. I have got most of mine on sale from the a Case dealer and a couple from here on the forums. I did overpay for the Pruner on the Bay when it showed up, but I’ve been using that heck out of that thing on our terrace as I trim back our winter plants.

 

[GusSharp68]

I’ve often had the same thought G GusSharp68 , but I think D dennishy is getting it right. These are priced just a tick beyond what most knife nuts are willing to spend. Hence a fair amount still out there. I guess I’m just a little bit more nutty than the average knife nut. I have got most of mine on sale from the a dealer and a couple from here on the forums. I did overpay for the a dealer on the Bay when it showed up, but I’ve been using that heck out of that thing on our terrace as I trim back our winter plants.

No doubt that’s the case but when compared to what one would have to pay for a Tony Bose custom, I find them to be an incredible value more or less. I did stupidly pay that fort john dude on eBay for a WT only to see it go on sale a month or so after I paid scalper price so oops!?