Bad Caution when dealing with Bladerunner7

[Blade Runner 7]

I never said you held your end to see if you could fix it. I did say that you said that was what you were doing. That mentality alone is troubling in the least. And no, all you could do was put it back in the box and contact the other guy for a return.

I also said I was saying that to make him feel a little more accountable when it comes to full disclosure. I wouldn’t have sent him back the Microtech. Especially not after I cooled off. That was all said in the heat of the moment and I didn’t correct it because I still felt he didn’t disclose the condition of the knife to me accurately. I was trying to figure it out and lashing out about it but in reality I knew I would send the Military. In the moment I hadn’t made any plans I was just in fix-it mode and also screw-this-guy mode because I felt wronged. Yeah I could have asked him first so as to avoid any issue whatsoever. I didn’t really plan to send the MT back though so I was just mad.

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[Blade Runner 7]

bladerunner 7, youre making it worse not better each post youre doing blaming the op. in fairness after me thinking about it since the last thread.... the stiffer ones might not have felt stiff to the op at all. maybe he lifts everyday. just apologize and learn from the event and move on to the next deal. take that advice for what it is.........

Except I have taken full responsibility for what I said. I admitted fault. Why is that not good enough? Why does the OP get a full pass and no accountability? Because you have decided I’m completely to blame and he must be right? I see these post so often and it’s always two groups of people taking sides and never saying it could be both. OK there a couple people in this thread saying that but what about everyone else? Why are people so quick to take a side and completely blame one guy rather that to try and look at it from both perspectives and give them both the benefit of the doubt? I’ve even tried to give the OP that benefit after settling down even though he hasn’t extended that favor to me. This court of public opinion is messed up. It’s quite an experience to be on this end of it. I hope you never have to experience it.

 

[danbot]

I also said I was saying that to make him feel a little more accountable when it comes to full disclosure. I wouldn’t have sent him back the Microtech. Especially not after I cooled off. That was all said in the heat of the moment and I didn’t correct it because I still felt he didn’t disclose the condition of the knife to me accurately. I was trying to figure it out and lashing out about it but in reality I knew I would send the Military. In the moment I hadn’t made any plans I was just in fix-it mode and also screw-this-guy mode because I felt wronged. Yeah I could have asked him first so as to avoid any issue whatsoever. I didn’t really plan to send the MT back though so I was just mad.

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But you should be prepared to send it back if he is not satisfied with what you send him.
No matter the reason, the deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied with the trade.

Agreed?

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Bottom line; If the trade is not to your satisfaction, re-pack and send back. But not before you communicate about the issue.

Fair?

Totally. Like I’ve said multiple times. I was spouting off. I felt wronged and didn’t give a crap. Next time I’ll take more time to think it through.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

But you should be prepared to send it back if he is not satisfied with what you send him.
No matter the reason, the deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied with the trade.

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I don’t think he’d want me to send the Microtech back. I’d like to say we can cross that bridge when we get to it but since I’m under such a microscope here, my normal response would be to just refund him the cost of a new MT and he can send me back the Military. Even if I know I’m right (the Military is brand new and perfect) I always make sure people are happy.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

On a side note, what’s up with the quotes? It doesn’t seem to be working well here.

 

[danbot]

Totally. Like I’ve said multiple times. I was spouting off. I felt wronged and didn’t give a crap. Next time I’ll take more time to think it through.

Your great feedback does mean something. somehow this went sideways. I think the two of you should work this out in email or something private and then let us know it's resolved and lesson learned for all of us!

 

[stonesell]

Your great feedback does mean something. somehow this went sideways. I think the two of you should work this out in email or something private and then let us know it's resolved and lesson learned for all of us!

I think that Bladerunner7 has made a considerable effort to respond here, seems to realize his mistake, and is trying to be sincere. If his side of the trade arrives in the condition that he stated, then I agree that they should be able to work out any other details by themselves. It’s a good lesson for all. Don’t start fiddling around with a trade item, until you get the consent to do so.

 

[stonproject]

Except I have taken full responsibility for what I said. I admitted fault. Why is that not good enough? Why does the OP get a full pass and no accountability? Because you have decided I’m completely to blame and he must be right? I see these post so often and it’s always two groups of people taking sides and never saying it could be both. OK there a couple people in this thread saying that but what about everyone else? Why are people so quick to take a side and completely blame one guy rather that to try and look at it from both perspectives and give them both the benefit of the doubt? I’ve even tried to give the OP that benefit after settling down even though he hasn’t extended that favor to me. This court of public opinion is messed up. It’s quite an experience to be on this end of it. I hope you never have to experience it.

People are quick to side against you because you've repeatedly showed poor judgement and have destroyed whatever integrity you had with a lot of people here based on YOUR behavior. Mcshank wasn't even part of the conversation by the time you stuck your foot in your mouth enough times for a large majority of the forum to realize, at best, you exhibit little self control.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

People are quick to side against you because you've repeatedly showed poor judgement and have destroyed whatever integrity you had with a lot of people here based on YOUR behavior. Mcshank wasn't even part of the conversation by the time you stuck your foot in your mouth enough times for a large majority of the forum to realize, at best, you exhibit little self control.

And you’re one of the people that doesn’t seem to understand how mad someone can be when they feel ripped off. Do you doubt the action was messed up? You were part of the original thread and I guess you didn’t get enough out of that. The thread here has seemed to mellow out but you decide to kick it back up a notch. I don’t think there is really much else to say until the Military gets in his hands.

 

[Batleship]

And you’re one of the people that doesn’t seem to understand how mad someone can be when they feel ripped off. Do you doubt the action was messed up? You were part of the original thread and I guess you didn’t get enough out of that. The thread here has seemed to mellow out but you decide to kick it back up a notch. I don’t think there is really much else to say until the Military gets in his hands.

Dude i get it, your the victim here and everyone is piling on and being mean to you.

 

[stonproject]

And you’re one of the people that doesn’t seem to understand how mad someone can be when they feel ripped off. Do you doubt the action was messed up? You were part of the original thread and I guess you didn’t get enough out of that. The thread here has seemed to mellow out but you decide to kick it back up a notch. I don’t think there is really much else to say until the Military gets in his hands.

I'm well aware how it feels to get ripped off. I got screwed on one of my first transactions here. First thing I did was think about what to do, not immediately start making actions before I cooled off.

I can't say for a fact whether anything was wrong with the action. Id bet it was to spec by microtech's standards though. A knife with "bad action" is very subjective. I've had knives I felt had perfect action, or a perfect edge on it, and someone else would disagree. I bought a knife once described as "smooth as glass" and my opinion was anything but.

What I think happened is your idea of a good/bad action on a microtech otf led you to brash decisions.

Id bet if you kept handing the microtech to different people in its condition you got it in, some would say "too stiff", or "that's normal", or "smooth as glass".

 

[Planterz]

Except I have taken full responsibility for what I said. I admitted fault. Why is that not good enough?

Because you already disassembled the knife and voided the warranty. Saying things is one thing, acting upon them is another.

Why does the OP get a full pass and no accountability? Because you have decided I’m completely to blame and he must be right? I see these post so often and it’s always two groups of people taking sides and never saying it could be both.

Even if he wantonly sent you a defective knife, all you have to do is send the knife back to him. Sure, you'd be within your right to bring this to other peoples' attention, if that were the case. Nobody believes that's the case.

OK there a couple people in this thread saying that but what about everyone else? Why are people so quick to take a side and completely blame one guy rather that to try and look at it from both perspectives and give them both the benefit of the doubt? I’ve even tried to give the OP that benefit after settling down even though he hasn’t extended that favor to me.

Again, you already disassembled the knife. Before you even considered giving Mcshank the benefit of the doubt. You didn't even contact him about it. Why should/how could he give you the benefit of the doubt after that?

This court of public opinion is messed up. It’s quite an experience to be on this end of it. I hope you never have to experience it.

Oh, I'm pretty sure I'll never have to experience it in the manner you have, because I'd never do what you did.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

I'm well aware how it feels to get ripped off. I got screwed on one of my first transactions here. First thing I did was think about what to do, not immediately start making actions before I cooled off.

I can't say for a fact whether anything was wrong with the action. Id bet it was to spec by microtech's standards though. A knife with "bad action" is very subjective. I've had knives I felt had perfect action, or a perfect edge on it, and someone else would disagree. I bought a knife once described as "smooth as glass" and my opinion was anything but.

What I think happened is your idea of a good/bad action on a microtech otf led you to brash decisions.

Id bet if you kept handing the microtech to different people in its condition you got it in, some would say "too stiff", or "that's normal", or "smooth as glass".

I doubt you would get any “smooth as glass” people. Please don’t ignore the fact that it was a night and day difference after I cleaned it.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

Because you already disassembled the knife and voided the warranty. Saying things is one thing, acting upon them is another.

Exactly. I was pissed so I said things. My action was to send the Military. Way before this thread was started.

Even if he wantonly sent you a defective knife, all you have to do is send the knife back to him. Sure, you'd be within your right to bring this to other peoples' attention, if that were the case. Nobody believes that's the case.

Or I could just be a loudmouth and vent a little online. Then send him the knife I said I was going to.

Again, you already disassembled the knife. Before you even considered giving Mcshank the benefit of the doubt. You didn't even contact him about it. Why should/how could he give you the benefit of the doubt after that?

I didn't need to give him any benefit of the doubt. I planned to send the Military even knowing that he knew the action was bad when he sent it. I was venting.

 

[Planterz]

Exactly. I was pissed so I said things. My action was to send the Military. Way before this thread was started.

No, your action was to disassemble the knife without his permission or knowledge. Why can you not understand that this is the sticking point of this whole issue?

Or I could just be a loudmouth and vent a little online. Then send him the knife I said I was going to.

Alright, buddy.

 

[WhiteSensation]

At this point it seems people are saying the same thing over and over and it's starting to become a I said he said type of deal.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

No, your action was to disassemble the knife without his permission or knowledge. Why can you not understand that this is the sticking point of this whole issue?

See and theres the confusion. I have said numerous times that I had planned to send the military. I was spouting off because I was pissed. I feel like people that send out knives with known defects and don't disclose them, should be accountable or at lease worry about it a bit. Yeah I shouldn't have said that but I did. It's done. I was being immature because I was upset. I felt like he was trying to take advantage of me and he would get away with it because I actually care about my feedback.

 

[Blade Runner 7]

At this point it seems people are saying the same thing over and over and it's starting to become a I said he said type of deal.

And just when it starts to die down, someone from the old thread pops up and drags it down again. Weird how everyone from that thread found this one.

 

[Armadew]

"I'm sorry, but..." is not the same as "I'm sorry."