Bad Caution when dealing with Bladerunner7

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ndmiller said:
Yeah, I'm not getting this. You shipped December 24th on a trade and still haven't received the item you traded for almost 2 weeks later??? I can ship USPS Flat Rate box to CA from Atlanta in 2 days......I would be crazed at this point regardless of someones feedback score. Another reason I can't bring myself to trade anymore.

I would think that level of membership comes with an implied responsibility to behave well with others. At what point is that level of membership revoked for lack thereof?
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I sent it out the 26th but yeah its been a bit.
 
lieferung said:
Yikes, I had been considering this guy for if I ever needed anodizing... What a complete lack of integrity and professionalism. I truly hope your end of the trade is satisfying.

Trade horror stories like this are quite discouraging, I hope the PENALTY :D for a failed trade are harsh. It's almost like some horrible people manage to hide their true colors until they've gotten a bit of feedback in their favor, then they use that to pull stunts like this.
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If you need anodizing work go through ti survival, he's done a lot of work for me. Incredibly friendly, top notch artist in his field, and very fair prices. He's also a member here
 
ndmiller said:
Yeah, I'm not getting this. You shipped December 24th on a trade and still haven't received the item you traded for almost 2 weeks later??? I can ship USPS Flat Rate box to CA from Atlanta in 2 days......I would be crazed at this point regardless of someones feedback score. Another reason I can't bring myself to trade anymore.

I would think that level of membership comes with an implied responsibility to behave well with others. At what point is that level of membership revoked for lack thereof?
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Holiday backlog I would think.
If I was giving a reasonable benefit of the doubt...to be fair.
 
Here I am everyone. Let me start by saying this isn't going to be a long thought out, well edited, PR response. Too busy right now for that.

Yes I had a cavalier attitude about this situation. I felt wronged. Try to look at it for a moment from my perspective. Give me that ONE benefit of the doubt first with relation to the action of the Microtech. Understand that it is really hard to convey this in a video. No I didn't make sounds to add to the drama in my video. Ask my wife, the one that filmed for me. It was so hard to actuate, the jimping on the button was hurting my thumb. Also if you really think I made it up, why? Why would I do that? If it really was me not knowing how stiff the action is normally or I just didn't develop the muscles, why was it so different the very next day after I cleaned it? If you are willing to admit that I might actually be right about it, you might be a little more forgiving about my actions afterwards.

I got a knife that looked like it was described and worked but had a major flaw in my mind. I felt like the other party MUST have known that before sending it. I felt like he was trying to offload a problem knife on me. Im sure a lot of you have been there wether its with knives or any other deal you've made. That basic feeling of being ripped off. At that point maybe I did take an incorrect course of action. Maybe trying to figure it out wasn't right. I was actually giving the other party the benefit of the doubt by considering that it might not be as bad as it seemed. Being someone thats used to opening things up and fixing them, I didn't consider it an issue at all. Yeah I should have checked with him first but I was pissed. You all would have been too. Maybe you would have calmed yourselves down first. Probably a good idea. I didn't. I went into fix it mode.

In reality, as I stated in the original thread, I always make sure people are happy. I had a guy buy a knife from me on here. It went to Canada. When the box showed up, there was no knife in there. At least that's what I was told. Not saying I don't believe him but in reality, I don't know. We tried to get the insurance to cover it. Nope. My response? I bought another one (I wouldn't have just refunded him but I found a good deal on one in pristine shape) and sent it to him on my dime. I completely lost out on the cost of that knife and the expensive shipping to Canada. If you all care for me to validate this story by getting him to speak up, I can. I think his name was Busse007 or something close to that.

Yeah I spouted off but I was (and if I'm honest still am a bit) pissed. I would have never kept the Military and once I realized it was a bad move to open the Microtech, I wouldn't have never returned it. Now I didn't really want him to know that because I felt like he should learn a lesson on full disclosure but it is what it is. Now he's the good guy and Im getting flamed here. I shouldn't have ever mentioned the trade and should have brought it up to him originally. Yes you are all right about that. I still feel he was wrong and should take some blame for not disclosing the terrible action on the knife and I think it's pretty low that he feels so comfortable convincing people here that there was nothing wrong with it. Again if you give me that one thing, that the action really was that bad, maybe you can see where I was coming from. Take a look through all my history on here. I always take care of people even if I think I'm right. This is the first time my name has been brought up in this area and it's pretty humbling. Next time there is an issue I will not be sold bold and brash. Mcshank I still think you need to own up to your part.

Yes the Military was sent out in a timely manner. I got Microtech on Dec 30th. Got it as I was heading out the door to a family event. flicked it two or three times and didn't think about it. That's why I said "yeah just got it. I opened the box and flicked it a couple of times. Looks good" I didn't spend more than 1 minute with it. I was literally walking to the truck to leave as the post man delivered it. My wife and kids were in the truck and I made them wait so I could open it. Seriously I flicked it a "couple of times". I was more concerned with the described wear to the outside. I mainly wanted to see if THAT was as described. It was. "looks good". Anyway I couldn't ship that day. Post office was closed and I was heading out. Next day was Sunday, then January 1st. Again post office was closed. I really did ship out as soon as I could. People are jumping to some pretty far fetched assumptions here like doubting I shipped, doubting what I shipped is as described, saying I took too long to ship. Come on now. People are too quick to jump on a flame bandwagon. I'm sure people will still flame me at this point and I will try to respond. Just try to not look at things as one guy is right and the other is obviously wrong. Things aren't always so black and white.
 
There was nothing wrong with my description and I can have the previous owner back that up, I even inquired to him how stiff the action was because at first, I too had issues opening and closing MT's.
 
Are you saying nothing could have happened between it being in that persons hands and getting to me? Why did the action change right after I cleaned it?
 
No because th e knife went from him to me... action didn't change, why would it change going from me to you if I hadn't opened it at all. And to your point of cleaning it, you improperly lubed it, to your own admission. These things are meant to run basically dry so there's probably residual oil in there or you weakened something. Or it could have been as simple as you cleaned it out who knows. But what I do know is you didn't ask me before opening my knife before you knew you were you going to keep it.
 
There have been so many people here and the other post telling you that the knife was not the issue here and it was you at some point you need to take a step back and think that they may be right.
 
Did you use it after you got it? Things get dirty. The previous owner has nothing to do with it. When I buy a used car that had multiple owners, do I talk to the guy that owned it prior to the current owner? Your point you keep bringing up about the previous owner is not logical. You shouldn’t keep pursuing it.
 
Yes I lubed it...after I noticed how hard it was to actuate. I imidiately realized that mistake and I openly admitted that. The oil didn’t cause the problem. The problem was there before the oil and that’s why I tried to fix it with oil after seeing a youtube video with a similar solution.
 
No I didn't really use it at all I just flicked it in and out over and over. And as to the car analogy yes you do want to make sure all previous owners took care of the car properly. Did they get t he car serviced at t hee dealer or some rinky dink shop ran by two idiots.
 
Blade Runner 7 said:
Are you saying nothing could have happened between it being in that persons hands and getting to me? Why did the action change right after I cleaned it?
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Oddball question, but if you literally just tried firing it as it got to the door... how cold was it?

I think you were wrong to open up the knife, but I don't see anything in this thread so far that couldn't be explained by some mildly unwarranted crabbiness on each side. I don't see any reason to disbelieve you when you say that you didn't think about opening it up and that you would never have attempted to return it if you had damaged it in doing, but now you know that disassembly voids the warranty, so you shouldn't do that until you've decided to keep it. The OP has his knife. You have your knife. Both of you are now happy, it seems. So maybe you should both just let this one go now and call it lessons learned.
 
madcap_magician said:
Oddball question, but if you literally just tried firing it as it got to the door... how cold was it?

I think you were wrong to open up the knife, but I don't see anything in this thread so far that couldn't be explained by some mildly unwarranted crabbiness on each side. I don't see any reason to disbelieve you when you say that you didn't think about opening it up and that you would never have attempted to return it if you had damaged it in doing, but now you know that disassembly voids the warranty, so you shouldn't do that until you've decided to keep it. The OP has his knife. You have your knife. Both of you are now happy, it seems. So maybe you should both just let this one go now and call it lessons learned.
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I've yet to receive my end of the trade
 
Blade Runner 7 said:
Here I am everyone. Let me start by saying this isn't going to be a long thought out, well edited, PR response. Too busy right now for that.

Yes I had a cavalier attitude about this situation. I felt wronged. Try to look at it for a moment from my perspective. Give me that ONE benefit of the doubt first with relation to the action of the Microtech. Understand that it is really hard to convey this in a video. No I didn't make sounds to add to the drama in my video. Ask my wife, the one that filmed for me. It was so hard to actuate, the jimping on the button was hurting my thumb. Also if you really think I made it up, why? Why would I do that? If it really was me not knowing how stiff the action is normally or I just didn't develop the muscles, why was it so different the very next day after I cleaned it? If you are willing to admit that I might actually be right about it, you might be a little more forgiving about my actions afterwards.

I got a knife that looked like it was described and worked but had a major flaw in my mind. I felt like the other party MUST have known that before sending it. I felt like he was trying to offload a problem knife on me. Im sure a lot of you have been there wether its with knives or any other deal you've made. That basic feeling of being ripped off. At that point maybe I did take an incorrect course of action. Maybe trying to figure it out wasn't right. I was actually giving the other party the benefit of the doubt by considering that it might not be as bad as it seemed. Being someone thats used to opening things up and fixing them, I didn't consider it an issue at all. Yeah I should have checked with him first but I was pissed. You all would have been too. Maybe you would have calmed yourselves down first. Probably a good idea. I didn't. I went into fix it mode.

In reality, as I stated in the original thread, I always make sure people are happy. I had a guy buy a knife from me on here. It went to Canada. When the box showed up, there was no knife in there. At least that's what I was told. Not saying I don't believe him but in reality, I don't know. We tried to get the insurance to cover it. Nope. My response? I bought another one (I wouldn't have just refunded him but I found a good deal on one in pristine shape) and sent it to him on my dime. I completely lost out on the cost of that knife and the expensive shipping to Canada. If you all care for me to validate this story by getting him to speak up, I can. I think his name was Busse007 or something close to that.

Yeah I spouted off but I was (and if I'm honest still am a bit) pissed. I would have never kept the Military and once I realized it was a bad move to open the Microtech, I wouldn't have never returned it. Now I didn't really want him to know that because I felt like he should learn a lesson on full disclosure but it is what it is. Now he's the good guy and Im getting flamed here. I shouldn't have ever mentioned the trade and should have brought it up to him originally. Yes you are all right about that. I still feel he was wrong and should take some blame for not disclosing the terrible action on the knife and I think it's pretty low that he feels so comfortable convincing people here that there was nothing wrong with it. Again if you give me that one thing, that the action really was that bad, maybe you can see where I was coming from. Take a look through all my history on here. I always take care of people even if I think I'm right. This is the first time my name has been brought up in this area and it's pretty humbling. Next time there is an issue I will not be sold bold and brash. Mcshank I still think you need to own up to your part.

Yes the Military was sent out in a timely manner. I got Microtech on Dec 30th. Got it as I was heading out the door to a family event. flicked it two or three times and didn't think about it. That's why I said "yeah just got it. I opened the box and flicked it a couple of times. Looks good" I didn't spend more than 1 minute with it. I was literally walking to the truck to leave as the post man delivered it. My wife and kids were in the truck and I made them wait so I could open it. Seriously I flicked it a "couple of times". I was more concerned with the described wear to the outside. I mainly wanted to see if THAT was as described. It was. "looks good". Anyway I couldn't ship that day. Post office was closed and I was heading out. Next day was Sunday, then January 1st. Again post office was closed. I really did ship out as soon as I could. People are jumping to some pretty far fetched assumptions here like doubting I shipped, doubting what I shipped is as described, saying I took too long to ship. Come on now. People are too quick to jump on a flame bandwagon. I'm sure people will still flame me at this point and I will try to respond. Just try to not look at things as one guy is right and the other is obviously wrong. Things aren't always so black and white.
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Not one bit of the condition of the knife matters once you take it apart. It is yours then. Holding your part of the trade while you disassemble and tinker with the knife and saying if you can fix it you will send your part of the trade, if not you will send it back is total bs. Stop trying to put this in anyway on the other guy. Apologize, stop typing, and move on. That is the only way you will save any of what reputation you have left.
 
I know it’s easy for you to feel boosted here by all the people flaming me before I had a chance to respond. I don’t think we are going to get anywhere though because you will obviously never admit how bad it was and people will always take a side. Most people here have made up their minds already and it’s easier to just believe you were right 100%. OBVIOUSLY I think I’m right because I’m the one that tried to fix an issue. I wouldn’t make the issue up but go ahead and think I’m just mistaken and don’t realize how hard these knives are to open and close. I know what is a realistic amount of resistance and what isn’t. Two hands should NOT have a hard time opening and closing the knife. I’m not talking about one thumb. I’m talking about using two hands with a lot of force. This
Mcshank said:
No I didn't really use it at all I just flicked it in and out over and over. And as to the car analogy yes you do want to make sure all previous owners took care of the car properly. Did they get t he car serviced at t hee dealer or some rinky dink shop ran by two idiots.
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but do you ask the guy that owned it before the current owner, of the battery works, or if the AC is fine?
 
Your damn right i wont admit the action was bad because it never was. The action dosen't magically change over what was maybe a month that I had the knife? Thats why the previous owner was still relevant.
 
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