Chris Reeve knives on (knifetests.com)

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I see this is not good enough....go get a shotgun and get some peanut butter.
 
Here we go again with pseudo science, the science of hearsay. Fine in the field. My little mora of 12c27 does fine in the field. For what it is designed for. Or should we ignore the field experience of experts over the swinging Scientist?
The fact that you are so derisive and dismissive points to this being very personal for you. It shouldn't be.

Relevance of it breaking, you still haven’t answered that issue?
-Could it be that it is designed harder for edge retention?
-Could it be that the handle material is harder?
-Could it be that Nozz is swinging differently?
-Could it be the point of aim?
-Could it be that the vice is too tight?
-Could it be that there is a bias in the tests?
-Could it be poor quality control?
What are the odds most knives - many of which were a lot cheaper - making it past this point, and the CRK knives failing here? These conditions were random for all knives tested.
Or are you saying noss4 had a special grudge against CR?

Even if test conditions were not lab accurate (and they're not), unless noss4 was biased against the CRK's, it is virtually impossible that they both broke and most other knives tested didn't.

No one is arguing that this is what knives are designed for.
No one is arguing that taking a steel hammer to a knife is normal, or anything other than abuse.

The CRK knives could not take a treatment that a couple of $20 knives could. That is a fact. This fact is clearly hurtful to some people, I prolly wouldn't have been happy either with that result if I had owned one, and I might even have tried to reassure myself that it has no bearing on daily practice, WHICH IT DOESN'T.
So indeed. Get over it. It wasn't the tests, it wasn't noss4 or any bias, it was the knives.
 
i think u got to look at it this way. when your in a bad situation (survival, military etc) you have no clue what your going to have to use that knife for. u might have to put that knife through things u would never want to put it through . in these situations it's nice to know that if u need to abuse the knife it will take it and more.

as someone else said in the thread about a 3lb steel hammer. it's overbuilt so u know it wont fail....

the strider was s30v and took quite a beating.


but to say something about the green beret i think it looks awesome.
 
The CRK knives could not take a treatment that a couple of $20 knives could. That is a fact. This fact is clearly hurtful to some people, I prolly wouldn't have been happy either with that result if I had owned one, and I might even have tried to reassure myself that it has no bearing on daily practice, WHICH IT DOESN'T.
So indeed. Get over it. It wasn't the tests, it wasn't noss4 or any bias, it was the knives.


Well it seems that way for a lot of things, not just knives either. When someone doesn't like something for what ever reason or speaks bad about it there will always be those who will complain. People seem to take things way too personally, we are talking about knives here, not people like family members.

When someone has something they like they are pleased with it and that's good and they want to talk about it and praise it and that's fine too.

But there will be someone who doesn't agree with you for some reason, people will have their opinions about products etc.

What bothers me is when people start talking up a product or recommending a product saying that it will do more than it will really do saying it's the best there is when it's clearly not. It might be good, even great, but when there are better products out there that just remains fact that they ARE better. ;) Or they down a clearly better product because they can't afford it or some other personal reason like where it's made. :rolleyes:

That's called fan boy pure and simple. :rolleyes:

It's just like the fact I really don't like Spyderco knives, I have owned more than a few and I just don't like them, but that's MY opinion and that's the way it is and that won't ever change unless they really change their knives. I know there are better products on the market and I choose to buy those and yes most of them cost more. So yeah I will recommend another product that is clearly better for whatever reason because it is. The fact is I won't start a thread stating Spyderco is crap because I am sure there are those who like them and there are and that's fine plus that fact it would be insulting.

I am a big CS fan and have been sense the 80's and they make great knives, I am very happy with their fixed blades and most of their folders, but I know for a fact that Busse is better so I use both CS and Busse. Chris Reeve makes excellent folding knives, there is no doubt in my mind and never has been.

The bottom line is that people will have their opinions on products and most will be different. If we all thought the same we wouldn't have many options for products to buy would we? ;)
 
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I think most people are really missing the whole point.

The point is toughness and a Combat knife has to be tough, the CR Green Beret and Project One are not tough knives at all if you can break them by tapping them with a hammer.

Yes I said tapping because that's what Noss was doing, he wasn't pounding on them.

For the $300 you could buy 3 CS SRKs or 20 CS GI Tantos that are tough knives. (Or many of a lot of other options as well)

i agree with you ,man . you get the point +10:D:D:D:D
 
Quick poll: has anyone participating in this thread been swayed to the other side of the argument by a point made by someone on the opposite side?

Discuss.
 
Quick poll: has anyone participating in this thread been swayed to the other side of the argument by a point made by someone on the opposite side?

Discuss.

Since reading about the Noss KnifeTests I began to analyze the Noss KnifeTests method and realized it has merit. I purchased several knives that did well in the KnifeTests and I am satisfied. I wouldn’t buy any that failed early in the KnifeTests or got a poor rating. I believe the Noss KnifeTests show the toughness and durability of a knife.
 
Since reading about the Noss KnifeTests I began to analyze the Noss KnifeTests method and realized it has merit. I purchased several knives that did well in the KnifeTests and I am satisfied. I wouldn’t buy any that failed early in the KnifeTests or got a poor rating. I believe the Noss KnifeTests show the toughness and durability of a knife.

His field tests are good to watch too. :)
 
Quick poll: has anyone participating in this thread been swayed to the other side of the argument by a point made by someone on the opposite side?

Discuss.

Since reading about the Noss KnifeTests I began to analyze the Noss KnifeTests method and realized it has merit. I purchased several knives that did well in the KnifeTests and I am satisfied. I wouldn’t buy any that failed early in the KnifeTests or got a poor rating. I believe the Noss KnifeTests show the toughness and durability of a knife.

Also I unfortunately learned not to blindly follow the chanting fanboy recommendations as I purchased a few and was not satisfied. Fortunately I was able to return some of the knives.
 
Since reading about the Noss KnifeTests I began to analyze the Noss KnifeTests method and realized it has merit. I purchased several knives that did well in the KnifeTests and I am satisfied. I wouldn’t buy any that failed early in the KnifeTests or got a poor rating. I believe the Noss KnifeTests show the toughness and durability of a knife.

ya, i use the tests as a guide and it never let me down!:D:D:D
i buy a GI TANTO and do some yard work , the result shows that it is a really good knife ! i love it .
thank noss for his great D-TESTS.:D:D:D:D
 
Quick poll: has anyone participating in this thread been swayed to the other side of the argument by a point made by someone on the opposite side?

Discuss.

Of course not. People pick their conclusions out of thin air, and then construct an argument backwards to support them.

Do you not read the news?
 
Many of these discussions have ended up where the members get so tired of always arguing they start arguing about what is better....peanut butter and jelly or peanut butter and syrup....It comes down to you chose what you like...

hmmmm well that makes sense, i honestly cant believe this topic is still raging on. i dont see why people care.....
 
Peanut butter for the win!

We are allowed to talk about sandwiches when everything else has already been discussed, right?
 
One of my favorite sandwiches is peanut butter with thinly sliced Vidalia onions. Yum :D
 
Can anyone who actually uses CRK fixed blades give their input instead of garrulous bystanders?
 
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