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Ankerson said:
I hope you really don't believe that..... :rolleyes:
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Let me see, yep I seriously believe in what I said.

Part of my primary degree was materials testing, as much to understand materials as the legitimate setting up and structuring of valid tests. Add to this theory and design of structures.

There was a cute course on fasteners. The fun when fasteners fail. That is a whole revealing section of its own. Some one uses a HT bolt instead of a MS bolt or visa versa, you use an incorrect washer and people die.

In addition Dip in Post Grad statistics.

Whoops I nearly left out the whole shebang of supervising testing on sites of concrete, steel and structures.

And Karate persons obviously fake breaking blocks of concrete rather than focusing energy.
 
You place a tin plate fantasy knife in a vice and tap it and it does a right angle I would still say there is no validity. Pseudo Science is in the realm of rain dancing naked, entertaining, occasionally there may be rain but nothing scientific in it what so ever.
 
Tim-Gabz said:
Let me see, yep I seriously believe in what I said.

Part of my primary degree was materials testing, as much to understand materials as the legitimate setting up and structuring of valid tests. Add to this theory and design of structures.

There was a cute course on fasteners. The fun when fasteners fail. That is a whole revealing section of its own. Some one uses a HT bolt instead of a MS bolt or visa versa, you use an incorrect washer and people die.

In addition Dip in Post Grad statistics.

Whoops I nearly left out the whole shebang of supervising testing on sites of concrete, steel and structures.

And Karate persons obviously fake breaking blocks of concrete rather than focusing energy.
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You are thinking way too much I see.

It's really very simple.

No thought or Degree of any kind needed to figure it out. LOL

Both the Green Beret and Project One failed the same test that a CHEAP $15 knife can do all day long.

In real life use things are not all that scientific nor do they have to be.
 
tsiloics said:
You didn't get the memo?

No conclusions can be drawn from physical phenomena unless scientific controls are in place. Common sense is so... Nineteenth Century.
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I will take Common Sense any day. :D
 
dingy said:
will it die ? i mean this thread!
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dingy said:
noss in my eyes is a great man ! i admire him ! cool.
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dingy said:
let' continue!
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hunterfisher808 said:
Not if you keep bringing it to the top:eek::D
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Ken44 said:
Thats what I though last night when I noticed he bumped it:D

Never knew there were so many Noss fanboys:confused:





Lets just hope it goes away soon:p
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Well Hope didn't do me any good.

I don't see why you keep buming this when its about to drop off first page:confused:
Can't you just heap your praise for the great man in his forum, and quit bumping this thread....or see if you can get a "Nossfanboy" room started here maybe.
 
Comon sense dicates that a torque wrench is totally unnecessary in the greater things of life?

A full set of tests as car mags do and the such, possible going further to destruction test would have been a great bonus to the knife comunity. Nah, dude swinging a hammer at a blade sounds so,,, rural.
 
Both the Green Beret and Project One failed the same test that a CHEAP $15 knife can do all day long.

In real life use things are not all that scientific nor do they have to be.
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Try and absorb this. The videos are "Food for thought" Entertainment. Not science. And in every day life you don't beat a knife with a hammer or even hammer a knife through bricks or puncture car hoods. If the issue is that you don't want to purchase CRK because you think they are too expensive or you just don't like the looks of it. So be it. But to continue to argue that a $15.00 knife is "Just as good as the CRK" is ridiculous at best. Again, "Entertainment". Not Science. ;)




:)
 
Ken44 said:
Well Hope didn't do me any good.

I don't see why you keep buming this when its about to drop off first page:confused:
Can't you just heap your praise for the great man in his forum, and quit bumping this thread....or see if you can get a "Nossfanboy" room started here maybe.
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I don't know about all that. LOL :D

Tim-Gabz said:
Comon sense dicates that a torque wrench is totally unnecessary in the greater things of life?

A full set of tests as car mags do and the such, possible going further to destruction test would have been a great bonus to the knife comunity. Nah, dude swinging a hammer at a blade sounds so,,, rural.
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The interesting thing is say I am a CS Fan and I am by the way. ;)

Did I post anything complaining about how nutnfancy broke a CS Recon Scout? No I didn't because the way I look at it is it's great info.

But let someone break a CR knife and you have a ton of people crying about it.
 
babakanoosh45 said:
Try and absorb this. The videos are "Food for thought" Entertainment. Not science. And in every day life you don't beat a knife with a hammer or even hammer a knife through bricks or puncture car hoods. If the issue is that you don't want to purchase CRK because you think they are too expensive or you just don't like the looks of it. So be it. But to continue to argue that a $15.00 knife is "Just as good as the CRK" is ridiculous at best. Again, "Entertainment". Not Science. ;)




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Cost really doesn't matter to me as most of my fixed blade knives cost at least as much as the Green Beret does. ;)

Would I buy a Green Beret? No I wouldn't, not even before I saw the video because I just don't personally like that knife or the Project One for that matter. I would rather have my Trail Master, a SRK, or my Busses personally.

I have been pounding knives with my 22oz Plumb framing hammer off and on for over 25 years spitting wood and doing other things and NONE of my Fixed blades ever broke.

Now I think CR makes awesome folders. :thumbup:

But when I see a $300 knife blade snap getting tapped by a hammer the 1st thing I do is laugh about because it is very funny. :D
 
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Tim-Gabz said:
The variations in results from non existent test conditions would have varied considerably from tightening the holding device more or less creates a lever differential of several factors. Hit the blade in a different manner or angle and the same occurs.
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The test conditions are a guy with a hammer. Since the knives are hand tools, fixing anything in jigs and using calibrated mass and distance don't do you much good when you are then using them in real life without these things to guarantee you don't hit them too hard or in the wrong spot. Does anyone bother to ask why the hammer never breaks? I mean, there's no test conditions to keep it from shattering when hitting the knives. Maybe because it's overbuilt for the task. The CRK knives are obviously not overbuilt for the task, because they broke. Fine, knives are not designed to be hit with hammers or driven through concrete, I don't think anyone would argue that we've spent the last few millennia trying to do that with our cutlery. But, there are so many knives that made it past the point where the CRKs broke, and yes, they were inferior to some people by some measure (materials, cost, brand, point of origin, etc)

A knife breaking from getting hit with a hammer is not too surprising. Though, at that point, I do not know why it is a quarter inch thick and does not have a full height grind.
 
hardheart said:
The test conditions are a guy with a hammer. Since the knives are hand tools, fixing anything in jigs and using calibrated mass and distance don't do you much good when you are then using them in real life without these things to guarantee you don't hit them too hard or in the wrong spot. Does anyone bother to ask why the hammer never breaks? I mean, there's no test conditions to keep it from shattering when hitting the knives. Maybe because it's overbuilt for the task. The CRK knives are obviously not overbuilt for the task, because they broke. Fine, knives are not designed to be hit with hammers or driven through concrete, I don't think anyone would argue that we've spent the last few millennia trying to do that with our cutlery. But, there are so many knives that made it past the point where the CRKs broke, and yes, they were inferior to some people by some measure (materials, cost, brand, point of origin, etc)

A knife breaking from getting hit with a hammer is not too surprising. Though, at that point, I do not know why it is a quarter inch thick and does not have a full height grind.
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No way am I going to pound any of my knives through steel or concrete or stab them through car hoods etc. :D

It is nice to know that some knives can take that kind of punishment without failing.

I do pound them through wood though from time to time. :)
 
dingy said:
let' continue!
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Wouldn't it just be nice to have a standardized pressure test applied to a whole buncha blades, ie hydraulic press w/ gauge so we can see what is what with shear strengths of different knives. If each member of BF paid a few bucks to sponsor it, let's say less than $5 each, there could be some fun and alot to post about.
 
Ryou said:
Wouldn't it just be nice to have a standardized pressure test applied to a whole buncha blades, ie hydraulic press w/ gauge so we can see what is what with shear strengths of different knives. If each member of BF paid a few bucks to sponsor it, let's say less than $5 each, there could be some fun and alot to post about.
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Yeah it would be interesting to see, but I like the hammer better personally as it would be more fun to watch. :D

I hear Noss is thinking about testing folding knives next. LOL

I can't wait for those. :D
 
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