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Ever tried it?
if your knives is olny for cutting . i have a adivce for you man
go and buy a big wood saw, then converted it to a knife , it perfect for cutting!!! it is good at it!!! the saw made knife is freakin sharp and cheap and have a well retention.
as an amuture knifemaker in china,
and from what i have kown before that make a knife olny for cutting (sole use knife) is easy to do , just harden the Spring steel to a extramly high hardness ! In this way , there is no Compromise to deeply involved. it is just a easy tiger!!!!!!
but if the maker wanta make a real sword or combat knife , the work is not easy!!!!
so, if you knife is only for cutting is true, i will give you an adivce that buy some cheap knife ,almost all the kinves can get what you need!!
and , if the CRK is only for cutting is true, i will give the boss an advice that leave the combat knife or tough knife alone, and lower the price to ·······
and from what i have kown before that make a knife olny for cutting (sole use knife) is easy to do , just harden the Spring steel to a extramly high hardness ! In this way , there is no Compromise to deeply involved. it is just a easy tiger!!!!!!
but if the maker wanta make a real sword or combat knife , the work is not easy!!!!
so, if you knife is only for cutting is true, i will give you an adivce that buy some cheap knife ,almost all the kinves can get what you need!!
and , if the CRK is only for cutting is true, i will give the boss an advice that leave the combat knife or tough knife alone, and lower the price to ·······
Yeah The flip up doors are very useful. Holds plenty of groceries for two. Plus getting there and home can be much quicker.
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The CRK Green Beret and Project 1 do not have blade profiles and grinds which are optimized for cutting...if you want a great cutter why would you get them?
Wouldn't it kinda be like a Sebenza with a larger/longer blade if it was optimized for cutting?
Only people saying it is just for cutting are not the ones who make them or who the makers are advertising towards.
the thick spine, tough names, the website description...
" Efficient - Tough - Exceptional
Words that describe the men of the U.S. Army Special Forces
Words that describe the knife designed specifically for these men "
"This knife is known to the U.S. Army Special Forces as "The Yarborough" and to everyone else as "The Green Beret Knife". It is a no-nonsense, hardworking tool, designed by renowned knife maker and designer Bill Harsey, with function and manufacturing input from Chris Reeve. Made in Boise, Idaho by Chris Reeve Knives, the Green Beret Knife is a using knife that, just like the men for whom it was designed, is efficient, tough and uncompromising."
It's more like a Toyota Corolla with body-kit, fancy paint job, big shiny rims, etc. than a Ferrari or Lambo.
Notice they don't promote amazing cutting performance - they emphasize tough, uncompromising, exceptional "no-nonsense, hardworking tool"
Maybe if they were $50-60 it wouldn't be so silly....they offer nothing over cheaper, better designs besides their unique look.
They are designer knives, just like designer clothing and what not....pretty and semi-useful.
When we use words like tough, exceptional, hardworking, etc. we are comparing the item to other items which are average and saying that this item is better than average in those areas right? What knives are the Green Beret or Project 1 comparing to that they are more tough, exceptional, and uncompromising?
Be honest to your self about it. Find any task that a Green Beret is better than average at....any outdoors or survival task....any around the farm task....maybe combat task??? I've tried for awhile now and I can't come up with a single one.
Wouldn't it kinda be like a Sebenza with a larger/longer blade if it was optimized for cutting?
Only people saying it is just for cutting are not the ones who make them or who the makers are advertising towards.
the thick spine, tough names, the website description...
" Efficient - Tough - Exceptional
Words that describe the men of the U.S. Army Special Forces
Words that describe the knife designed specifically for these men "
"This knife is known to the U.S. Army Special Forces as "The Yarborough" and to everyone else as "The Green Beret Knife". It is a no-nonsense, hardworking tool, designed by renowned knife maker and designer Bill Harsey, with function and manufacturing input from Chris Reeve. Made in Boise, Idaho by Chris Reeve Knives, the Green Beret Knife is a using knife that, just like the men for whom it was designed, is efficient, tough and uncompromising."
It's more like a Toyota Corolla with body-kit, fancy paint job, big shiny rims, etc. than a Ferrari or Lambo.
Notice they don't promote amazing cutting performance - they emphasize tough, uncompromising, exceptional "no-nonsense, hardworking tool"
Maybe if they were $50-60 it wouldn't be so silly....they offer nothing over cheaper, better designs besides their unique look.
They are designer knives, just like designer clothing and what not....pretty and semi-useful.
When we use words like tough, exceptional, hardworking, etc. we are comparing the item to other items which are average and saying that this item is better than average in those areas right? What knives are the Green Beret or Project 1 comparing to that they are more tough, exceptional, and uncompromising?
Be honest to your self about it. Find any task that a Green Beret is better than average at....any outdoors or survival task....any around the farm task....maybe combat task??? I've tried for awhile now and I can't come up with a single one.
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some kids stole my ford p.u. truck, drove it thru barbed wire@then shoved the truck off a 80 ft. drop into a rock quarry. truck would'nt run.guess that proves ford trucks are no good.igonorance has no limits.
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I have a MercWorx sniper in S30V, it is a massive blade and I have never had any problems with it I split logs and chop trees down regularly. I wouldn't smack the spine with a hammer, but I think it would take it. S30V in my opinion is a great steel on fixed or folders. Just buy a CRK and test it out yourself, if it breaks on you in normal use send it back.
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That's impossible...
all waiting for something better, but nobody go forward. strange
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all is well;lots of activity on hammer; knife' tests.at least everyone is not asleep.
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Ford advertises "Built Ford Tough" so testing the truck by dropping it 80 ft is an appropriate test.
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I hear that!!!
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well is everybody;DennisStrickland why don't you shoot that thing with a bazooka,
wait for me I carry a video camera
My friend you stink CRKTell us some green issue?
I know lots of activity on money.:foot:
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Actually I'm from both camps.
Certain knives are made with certain intended uses; and depending upon that intended use, their strength is accorded.
CRK makes some of those "Farm-Tough Survivalist knives" you were talking about (a Swiss Army Knife is one of those, too, btw. But I'd never beat on it with a hammer).
Every knife can be a Survival Knife as long as you understand what utility it has to you.
From what I can tell CRK didn't lose "rep" to people who understand this line of thinking. CRK knives are still pinnacle quality, with pinnacle materials.
Try hard enough and you can break anything. That is the issue that I have with knife"tests".com. They aren't trying to "test" knives, they're trying to break them.
I'd take a CRK knife into the wilderness with me any day. They're proven as good knives. They have a track record of quality and so does the man that produces them.
...and I'm on of those hard core "farm tough survivalist knife" guys.
But I'm first and foremost one thing: someone who makes a point to understand the purpose of the knives he buys and owns.
Some knives are made for chopping, batoning, etc... (Busse, Swamp Rat, Scrap Yard, Becker, RC, a bunch more) and if you look at them, they all have a VERY different design than a CRK folder. They're designed with the INTENT to that kind of work. Even the CRK hollow handled fixed blades are designed with that intent.
But anybody who knows anything about using a knife to split wood knows you don't do it with a hammer. That's just common sense.
Some knives are not made for chopping, et al... And that's the important part: you don't treat them like they are.
It's like a guy who tries to tow a camper with a Ferrari...you're asking for trouble. Sure the Ferrari is a high quality car, but it wasn't built or intended to tow campers. So when you tear it up, it's because you were using in a manner OTHER THAN INTENDED.
I think a lot of people are after Chris Reeves' hide for one thing: they can't understand why he charges what he does for his knives. Simple: because he can.
They can't fathom paying $400 dollars for a knife, so they don't believe it's worth it to do so; and anybody else that does is a goober. To them anyway.
So they try to justify their ideals by running the knife down, trying to point out flaws that don't exist, etc...just to say: "See, it's not worth the money."
When in reality, it's worth whatever you pay for it. Because the person that buys it, is the person that wants it; and it's worth that price to him (or her in some cases).
If you want to test a knife, do it in a controlled environment against a similar make. Knock out all the extraneous variables and nuisance variables. Then design a test with a control and an independent variable. Then you have a real TEST.
Someone earlier said something to the effect of: "I doubt there'd be this much outcry over a lesser priced knife." I disagree with that. I think the outcry comes from the form of "testing" and claims based from the results. A Kershaw Skyline is a great knife, and costs WAAAAAAAAAAAY less than a Sebenza, Mnaandi, or other CRK knife--but I know I'd still feel the same if some guy said it was crap just because they beat the piss out of it with a hammer and it broke.
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this.....meaningless
after I spent all that money
after I spent all that money
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Boy, I can't believe this debate is still going on and I'm actually going to add to it...
Just a little real world experience with the Project I. I had one for a while, used it mainly to chop wood for the fire. On one such occasion I didn't use a proper back stop and managed to chip the edge in a couple of places when it met concrete.
I had the knife professionally resharpened and Kal-garded by a gunsmith friend of mine and carried on using it, to no ill effect.
Recently I offered it up in a trade but I wanted to put to rest any concerns I had about its integrity. I was concerned that maybe in the sharpening, it had affected the heat treatment.
So I took the knife out and did some chopping with it. Just so happens I had some fire wood left over from a recent trip to the game park.
Now this is wood from the Leopard tree. It is so hard that when you hit it, it sounds like you are hitting metal. I kid you not. I wish I had a video camera so I could make a movie of it. Its bizarre.
In any event, you can see what I did to this piece with the Project I. At the end of it the knife was still plenty sharp and no discernible affect to the edge. I could have kept chopping all the way through but I was happy with the knife's performance and toughness.
So I traded it off and the new owner was very happy with it and to my knowledge has used it hard with no ill effects. Certainly I have not heard anything to the contrary from him.
Now beyond chopping up a piece of hardwood that measures 3 inches across and 2 inches deep, and being left with an edge that is still sharp enough to cut your meat for the fire, what other test would you need to prove the worthiness of this knife?
Last time I checked you can't use cinder blocks to build a fire!
Just a little real world experience with the Project I. I had one for a while, used it mainly to chop wood for the fire. On one such occasion I didn't use a proper back stop and managed to chip the edge in a couple of places when it met concrete.
I had the knife professionally resharpened and Kal-garded by a gunsmith friend of mine and carried on using it, to no ill effect.
Recently I offered it up in a trade but I wanted to put to rest any concerns I had about its integrity. I was concerned that maybe in the sharpening, it had affected the heat treatment.
So I took the knife out and did some chopping with it. Just so happens I had some fire wood left over from a recent trip to the game park.
Now this is wood from the Leopard tree. It is so hard that when you hit it, it sounds like you are hitting metal. I kid you not. I wish I had a video camera so I could make a movie of it. Its bizarre.
In any event, you can see what I did to this piece with the Project I. At the end of it the knife was still plenty sharp and no discernible affect to the edge. I could have kept chopping all the way through but I was happy with the knife's performance and toughness.
So I traded it off and the new owner was very happy with it and to my knowledge has used it hard with no ill effects. Certainly I have not heard anything to the contrary from him.
Now beyond chopping up a piece of hardwood that measures 3 inches across and 2 inches deep, and being left with an edge that is still sharp enough to cut your meat for the fire, what other test would you need to prove the worthiness of this knife?
Last time I checked you can't use cinder blocks to build a fire!
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I am not convinced without live video and those cut patterns in the wood look like they were made by a machete or an axe?
One of the contentions with the CRK knives is the price vs. performance. A $300 CRK might well cut through that wood and still have a usable edge. Of course, so might an Old Hickory butcher knife for $10. Then there is the view that the Old Hickory could be pounded through the wood without breaking, and the CRK couldn't.
Just so I'm clear, setting out to break something means its being broken, not tested, right?
Just so I'm clear, setting out to break something means its being broken, not tested, right?
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So in a nut you're calling me a liar? What would I stand to benefit from lying about what I did? I don't work for CRK, I don't even own one of their products anymore. That's a helluva ballsy statement to make to a complete stranger!