Chris Reeve knives on (knifetests.com)

Well, as a comparison I also tested my SK-5 Trailmaster on the wood and that edge did not hold up as well. It was OK but it lost its edge relatively quickly. The A2 really 'bit' into the wood.

One of the contentions with the CRK knives is the price vs. performance. A $300 CRK might well cut through that wood and still have a usable edge. Of course, so might an Old Hickory butcher knife for $10. Then there is the view that the Old Hickory could be pounded through the wood without breaking, and the CRK couldn't.

Just so I'm clear, setting out to break something means its being broken, not tested, right?
 
So in a nut you're calling me a liar? What would I stand to benefit from lying about what I did? I don't work for CRK, I don't even own one of their products anymore. That's a helluva ballsy statement to make to a complete stranger!

All I see in the photo is a piece of wood that looks to me as if it was chopped by a machete or an axe and without live video or even the knife in the photo who can be sure? Please consider the content of your message what information is actually provided to the viewer. I am analytical by profession ; )
 
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Well I can see you're new here so maybe you don't understand yet that in this quaint little universe of ours people generally tend to tell the truth about their experiences.

Because if you don't it will end up biting you on the ass sooner or later. Even though it seems pretty anonymous here you leave a trail behind wherever you go.

If you stick around long enough you'll learn that, but I have my doubts about that.
 
Perhaps that's why Noss wears a mask?

Nope, thats not why, and for some reason he won't tell us why...he's always dodged that question.

He wears it from start to finish from what I've been told, even in the parts were it is definitely not needed.
 
You know a couple weeks ago my wife purchased $350 Gucci sunglasses, a week later she saw some Prada sunglasses she liked better for $200. She wouldn't rather have the Prada ones though because she has been wanting some Gucci sunglasses for a long time, regardless of the extra $150.

If she was looking for performance sunglasses (say ballistic tested, very breathable and maximum coverage) she could of got some top of the line ones for around $100 or less.

Now just like Buffalohump's Project 1 can chop up that tiny piece of wood in the picture (compare it to the size of his hand...probably could have just whittled on that thing bro) my wife's $350 Gucci sunglasses will block UV rays and the blinding glare of the sun while driving....

It's crazy how this is so close to the knives huh? Even the prices pretty much transfer over....

I can understand if you just have to have a certain design, or maybe you have a hard on for a certain maker or company....but just be honest about it. My wife is the same way when it comes to Coach purses...

As men I always thought we should look for the best products at the best prices...screw brand loyalty or how pretty a design is. Pretty designs for too much money is the way of our women, right? Especially when we are talking about a TOOL.
 
Its not about the size of the piece, its the density of the wood. I could chop up a massive piece of pine and it would amount to the same thing.

As for the price, I bought the knife direct from Chris Reeve when he was out here visiting his parents some years back and when he brings knives with him, he sells them at substantially lower prices, because of the exchange rate. (I don't have a video of this transaction either, so you'll just have to take my word for it.)

Would I spend the full price on one? Probably not, I try to avoid spending the full price on anything.

You know a couple weeks ago my wife purchased $350 Gucci sunglasses, a week later she saw some Prada sunglasses she liked better for $200. She wouldn't rather have the Prada ones though because she has been wanting some Gucci sunglasses for a long time, regardless of the extra $150.

If she was looking for performance sunglasses (say ballistic tested, very breathable and maximum coverage) she could of got some top of the line ones for around $100 or less.

Now just like Buffalohump's Project 1 can chop up that tiny piece of wood in the picture (compare it to the size of his hand...probably could have just whittled on that thing bro) my wife's $350 Gucci sunglasses will block UV rays and the blinding glare of the sun while driving....

It's crazy how this is so close to the knives huh? Even the prices pretty much transfer over....

I can understand if you just have to have a certain design, or maybe you have a hard on for a certain maker or company....but just be honest about it. My wife is the same way when it comes to Coach purses...

As men I always thought we should look for the best products at the best prices...screw brand loyalty or how pretty a design is. Pretty designs for too much money is the way of our women, right? Especially when we are talking about a TOOL.
 
I don't doubt you...in that case I might have made the purchase also. Especially if he was a local guy with a well known reputation. Little things like that do add up.

So why did you pass it on to a new owner?
 
The guy had a nice custom piece that I had been after for some time....

Plus I have other big choppers, like a Battle Mistress and two Trailmasters (San Mai and SK-5).

To tell you the truth, I kinda regret it. The knife I traded for - RJ Martin Rampage - is a nice piece but not nearly as useful as the P1.

The 7 inch blade is a really good all round size. It can do a lot but doesn't weigh a ton. I don't have a 7 inch now... which is a bit of a gap.

The Battle Mistress is an awesome chopper but you wont want to take that hiking with you.

The P1 is a lot of knife for the weight...

This is the only pic I have left of it. The knife at the bottom (Jones Brothes Entry Tool) is also gone now...

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One of the contentions with the CRK knives is the price vs. performance. A $300 CRK might well cut through that wood and still have a usable edge. Of course, so might an Old Hickory butcher knife for $10. Then there is the view that the Old Hickory could be pounded through the wood without breaking, and the CRK couldn't.

Just so I'm clear, setting out to break something means its being broken, not tested, right?
Well, tested to see when it breaks. That's the part so many miss and just call him a liar, Noss isn't giving a very valid review of the knives as knives, he's subjecting them to similar abuse and seeing when they break. Is it valuable? Maybe not, but you see when the knives break, and the CRK knives did break before the Old Hickory. I don't know if Noss did break the OH with the mallet on the 2X4s, there was an hour of video without destruction at the end.

The knives failed to perform a set of tasks. Are they pointless, useless tasks? More or less, but hell, other knives managed to do it. If you don't buy a CRK to hit with a hammer, don't worry about it. If you want to feel good about having Old Hickories in your kitchen, go ahead.
 
Nobody ever mentions that some/ a LOT of the knives tested are Made/Marketed/designed to use on flesh. Animal or defense.

How would a 400x folded REAL $10,000 Japanese made katana do when being hammered and Bent? BUT, it will certainly Cut you in half with little resistance. With the right Technique. NOT Involving a Hammer.

That being said. I still Like the Car analogy. I Still Like to See Busse get the spinning flaming skull or WTF ever it is award. AND, I'd Still get the CRK that was broke in the test. It's a beautiful, Sharp, well balanced knife. Period. I like what Dozier says on his site, He makes knives for CUTTING......
 
It's Kind of interesting to see everyone get all bent about it. It's really interesting to see what knives break. But Makers and just generally knowledgeable Users/connoisseurs understand what will break, when and why. If someone thought that a thin D2@62 Made for over and over slicing perfection will take hammer shots all day over a 1095@57 just cuz it's a LOT More $$ then you have a LOT to learn.

Get your nice knives to CUT and Stab and Slice. And Appreciate the craftsmanship and beauty in your hobby/collection

Go to the Home Depot and grab a hatchet, prybar and a Mora and I think you'll be able to do all the cutting chores you'd need.

I don't use my Cell phone as an Impact weapon. But I'd probably get a kick out of watching someone in a fri13th msk Throw and beat different brands at a beat down Bob. How many throws till it explodes??????? How many hits till it splits??????? We could all go to the Tech/cell phone/Ipod blog to see witch device makes the best weapon.( I put my money on the '02 Nokia) And everyone can argue,"well why the F>>>> did this $500 Iphone one break when it did".
 
Not talking for or against knifetests.com, but....
I've seen this statement a few times and it just does not seem all that plausible when I start to thing about it.

Each knife is hit an awful lot of times with the hammer.
In fact I don't think Noss (Or any one else ) is skilled enough to hit the blade being tested, with the same force or at the "right" angle each and every time.

I think every blade gets hard hits at wrong angels...alot.

Saying Noss is hitting C.R. knife harder and at worse angels, consistently, is giving Noss to much credit, I think. ;)

My summer job involves a lot of hammer swinging. If someone who knows how wants to swing one in a reproducible way, it can be done, no matter the angle.
 
Nobody ever mentions that some/ a LOT of the knives tested are Made/Marketed/designed to use on flesh. Animal or defense.

How would a 400x folded REAL $10,000 Japanese made katana do when being hammered and Bent? BUT, it will certainly Cut you in half with little resistance. With the right Technique. NOT Involving a Hammer.

That being said. I still Like the Car analogy. I Still Like to See Busse get the spinning flaming skull or WTF ever it is award. AND, I'd Still get the CRK that was broke in the test. It's a beautiful, Sharp, well balanced knife. Period. I like what Dozier says on his site, He makes knives for CUTTING......

hi,gay,
cutting people in half is not a real challenge to such a big blade !!!!!
what is the real challenge to katana?
in the real battle of ancient , it is crashing , wrash into another weapon or sword!!!!!!!!! (sword broken is normal in the battle) like the hammer in hand of noss .
and i also have a question leave for you ?
why V Forging was used in making the real katana?
i also give you the answer , To do the v forging is to avoid breaking .:D:D:D
 
hi,gay,
cutting people in half is not a real challenge to such a big blade !!!!!
what is the real challenge to katana?
in the real battle of ancient , it is crashing , wrash into another weapon or sword!!!!!!!!! (sword broken is normal in the battle) like the hammer in hand of noss .
and i also have a question leave for you ?
why V Forging was used in making the real katana?
i also give you the answer , To do the v forging is to avoid breaking

No S****. But a $10,000 katana would still break (Probably faster) under Noss4s test. So Why should anyone be surprised a production A2 blade broke after being hit repeatedly with a Mallet? Are they even differentially heat treated? The CRKs A2 FBs? I know he only hardens them to 55-57. That should have helped but.......
 
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No S****. But a $10,000 katana would still break (Probably faster) under Noss4s test. So Why should anyone be surprised a production A2 blade broke after being hit repeatedly with a Mallet? Are they even differentially heat treated? The CRKs A2 FBs? I know he only hardens them to 55-57. That should have helped but.......

man, the real katana fail under noss's test faster is not the truth !!!!!
it is what you are imagined!


"So Why should anyone be surprised a production A2 blade broke after being hit repeatedly with a Mallet?"
i was suprised that why a high end product is soooooo fragile than the cheap one? then i get a question that is what makes the price of crk is so high ? just setted on the imagintion as yours?:D:D
 
then i get a question that is what makes the price of crk is so high

Because it's "hand crafted" And beautiful. Just Like a Katana. And it's Made for Cutting. It's not a Wood splitter. It's a Slicing piercing tool. A Weapon perhaps. I wouldn't Use My Sig as a hammer. Maybe We'll Get someone in a Freddy mask to use Handguns as hammers. That would be Rad.
 
The troubling thing is that two Reeve knives broke in a similar fashion after similar abuse.

Perhaps a flaw of some kind does exist. On the other hand is this preponderance to break a 'flaw'? I am not sure.

If the test is valid and repeatable then this is not a fluke and does seem to have something to do with the way the knife is made. Its a question of at what point in the process does the 'make it break ealry' flaw get introduced, and what is the flaw exactly.

Apparently CR sent Noos a replacement and asked for the destroyed one in return to examine. Perhaps Noos would be willing to destroy the second GB in the same way to demonstrate that his test result is reproducible: 'same' knife and 'same' test.

Perhaps Noos would be willing to send one us his replacement GB with instructions on how to test it, for us to destroy in the same way he did the first one so we can independently verify his results using his methods.

The validity of the test is a good question. To me it seems like it makes sense. You drop lap tops to gage how they respond in unusual situations. No one uses laptops by dropping them but we all want to know that if one was dropped that it would continue to be provide 'use' in its intended way.

Knowledge of the knife breaking point is useful in that sense.

As for subjective, I expect a knife that is marketed as Green Beret to be tougher than the average knife in particular for the price. I don't buy that its only slicing, etc. It should be able to do some 'not knife tasks' as well.

Quality should be measured partly according to the end users expectations. If the expectations are met, then the quality is delivered in the product. End use and slicing-only, etc are only one part of the picture. They pay for satisfaction like we all do.

Are CR owners generally satisfied? I would say yes.
 
Because it's "hand crafted" And beautiful. Just Like a Katana. And it's Made for Cutting. It's not a Wood splitter. It's a Slicing piercing tool. A Weapon perhaps. I wouldn't Use My Sig as a hammer. Maybe We'll Get someone in a Freddy mask to use Handguns as hammers. That would be Rad.

man, :D:D:D
you get the point , abslutely the hand craft and beautiful looking made the
sooo high price!!! not the thoughness as THE BOSS OF CRK said on the site!

is crk made for cutting or is just slicing piercing tool?

look at what the boss said to us
"
Efficient - Tough - Exceptional Words that describe the men of the U.S. Army Special Forces
Words that describe the knife designed specifically for these men

This knife is known to the U.S. Army Special Forces as "The Yarborough" and to everyone else as "The Green Beret Knife". It is a no-nonsense, hardworking tool, designed by renowned knife maker and designer Bill Harsey, with function and manufacturing input from Chris Reeve. Made in Boise, Idaho by Chris Reeve Knives, the Green Beret Knife is a using knife that, just like the men for whom it was designed, is efficient, tough and uncompromising.
"

you can use your knife only for cutting and slicing ,but do not look up down the ambition of the crk' boss

if as you said , the cutting and slicing is a kind of tough work, then what is the soft and tender work? is cutting and slicing air ?

if the green beret is made for cutting , then what is the differences beteen it and a Kitchen knife?
just cool looking and hand craft made the differences?

if the green beret is made for cutting , i have an advice to U.S. Army Special Forces in considering the Economic situation that is forget it and buy some
cheap kitchen knives to let the bugets healthy!!!:D:D:D
 
The troubling thing is that two Reeve knives broke in a similar fashion after similar abuse.

Perhaps a flaw of some kind does exist. On the other hand is this preponderance to break a 'flaw'? I am not sure.

If the test is valid and repeatable then this is not a fluke and does seem to have something to do with the way the knife is made. Its a question of at what point in the process does the 'make it break ealry' flaw get introduced, and what is the flaw exactly.

Apparently CR sent Noos a replacement and asked for the destroyed one in return to examine. Perhaps Noos would be willing to destroy the second GB in the same way to demonstrate that his test result is reproducible: 'same' knife and 'same' test.

Perhaps Noos would be willing to send one us his replacement GB with instructions on how to test it, for us to destroy in the same way he did the first one so we can independently verify his results using his methods.

The validity of the test is a good question. To me it seems like it makes sense. You drop lap tops to gage how they respond in unusual situations. No one uses laptops by dropping them but we all want to know that if one was dropped that it would continue to be provide 'use' in its intended way.

Knowledge of the knife breaking point is useful in that sense.

As for subjective, I expect a knife that is marketed as Green Beret to be tougher than the average knife in particular for the price. I don't buy that its only slicing, etc. It should be able to do some 'not knife tasks' as well.

Quality should be measured partly according to the end users expectations. If the expectations are met, then the quality is delivered in the product. End use and slicing-only, etc are only one part of the picture. They pay for satisfaction like we all do.

Are CR owners generally satisfied? I would say yes.


telant!!!!!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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