Cold Steel= flat out liars

I do not want to respond to this Thread, even though I like Cobalt.

I really have nothing to say, no comment to make. I have no CS knives and have never even been tempted.

And yet, oddly enough, I have posted anyway.

Hmmmm. Perhaps I should Propose this as a Research Topic at tomorrow's big Argue Fest 2007?! :confused:
 
DARN I thought this was another one of those "COLD STELL argument threads" Lead astray again by Cobalt.

I really looked at this thread because Cobalt Posted something about COLD STEEL, and I thought to myself "Now Cobalt knows better than that, this thing will go way past 4 pages!";)
 
Proof?!, you want Proof? Here is your proof, that dvd player never stood a chance. This knife wouldn't cut rope (or butter) but it did one heck of a job destroying this dvd player.
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And I bet Lynn Thompson loves it. In advertising it often does not matter whether it is good or bad, only that the consumer knows the name. With all the "halabalu" about Cold Steel, good or bad, the name is definitely known.

Regards
 
I've always thought cold steel where so-so knives but they have a video with the ceo chopping up slabs of meat and a stabbing phonebooks thats make CS knives look totally friggin' awesome. I take it with a grain of salt because it's easy to do a cool knife demo.
 
When you use a Cold Steel knife, you'll think you're using a chain saw! It will outperform, outcut, and outlast any of their competitors! Their knives are cutting dynamos!

This is a recording...erp...this is a recording...erp...this is a recording...erp...this is a recording...erp...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzrrrrrrp.
 
OK everyone, here's yet another opportunity to engage in the same rhetoric as that for which LT is so soundly criticized. I wonder how the CS videos would be reviewed if they were of stick whittling and thread cutting:D. I'll never get it...:) ss.
 
I have some answers.
- Cold Steel was one of the first of a generation of mass market knives to re-energize the mass market knives. I remember them as being 'different' in a crowded field of old timers. Being different sticks in your head, over and over again. Yea sure, that's my marketing background talking- but it's true.
- When everyone else was using folksy name brands or even famous maker names to market their products, Cold Steel hit the market and that brand name stuck in ourheads and we can't seem to get it out right?
- Everyone loves to hate the underdog. The underdog loves to be the underdog cause it boosts his bottom line no matter what the gossip (See > Strider)
- Everyone loves to gossip about the scapegoat . Scaping from what you might ask? Boredom, monotony and 'niceness'
- It's easier to be facinated by negativism that positivism- that's human nature
- People refuse to admit that value trumps best-in-class elitism. Any chance an elite has to trod on value it trods on it- modern human nature.
- There's something macabre, dark about a company that is part comedy part big business. Maybe it's the portly fella in all the Sordid Proof DVD's? Oh sorry! I meant SOLID PROOF
 
Originally posted by kgd:

I think the popularity of this type of thread is related to the stark contrast between CS's behavior as a corporate entity relative to other companies in the industry.

Yes we know that Coke will do just about every dirty deed to get more shelf space and have their vending machines placed closer to the window in the grocery store and Pespsi will be doing the same thing as well. We also know that politicians will wallow in the mud for their campaigns. Unfortunately we seem to accept those types of behaviours on a whole for these types of services.

In the knife industry there is still, however, a certain degree of decorum and honour among makers and industry leaders. We really do have stand-up folks who participate actively with the knife using community and share a certain camaraderie with them as well. Personally I tend to gravitate towards those companies and I want to see them succeed.
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I see your point, and I agree in financially supporting those companies you feel more comfortable with. That been said, part of my position is that other knife companies engage in classical advertising tactics. Does the word "deanimate" rings a bell? Most companies advertise according to their target market. I guess that a good chunk of CS products are directed to Mall Ninjas. It is also true that a section of their products are directed to people who actually know their knives. I guess their advertising style is geared to the lowest common denominator.

My point is, if the real problem with CS is their advertising style and tactics, why knock down the product if it is actually a good value for the price, and good quality to boot. Not all CS products are a good value or an example of good quality, but some are. This is where the "haters" come in. Some people express an attitude of deep hostility (read hate) towards the company, not because the company or the products are bad, but because they dislike the company's advertising style and/or its president.

If the "haters" really hate CS, they should vote their displeasure with their pockets. What I find interesting is that some of the "haters" own CS products, and some are willing to accept the good quality of some CS products. If we were willing to call the horse by its name, this type of threads would diminish, or at least would result in more productive communication.
 
Before I knew jack about knives I bought a Smith & Wesson knife ( a 'tacticle' fighting or so I thought style) knife. The cheesy little instruction paper that came with it said that it was a tool and not a weapon under any circumstances and should never... blah blah blah...

I bought it because I thought hey this company must be hard to the core... er wait was that someone else... :)
 
Confederate said:
Yes. The tests I see Cold Steel doing, which are helpful, include the lock strength tests and blade/handle integrity test.

A good knife should have exceptional strength in these areas. Edge retention is nice, but I'm more interested in whether the knife's lock will hold with extreme torquing, blade slapping with another knife or a club and that sort of thing. As much I love Benchmade, I'm not sure it would stand up in those areas, although I have no doubt that Spyderco knives would.

What sort of tests would you like to see?
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So Cold Steel's lock strength is superior to Benchmade in sword fights, extreme prybar competitions and against cave men.

Got it.

:D
 
I'm not a huge fan of Cold Steel, but I think they should be credited with energizing the market. There will always be emotional responses to Cold Steel threads. I own a few; I don't agree with their marketing (but it does work), I often think their claims are way over the top (most of which are), but they do make a few decent products. I refuse to get my panties in a wad over emotional threads...some people like and recommend them; some vehemently detest them and would never utter the words Cold Steel. There's a ton of others in the middle who will always make their up own mind and decide based on looks, ads, their pocket book and others' opinions. It's that simple.

ROCK6
 
Cold Steel is less interested in producing knives than it is in selling knives. People who couldn't tell a Spyderco from an Emerson all have heard of Cold Steel.

Over the years I've watched their knives get bigger and goofier looking as they seek to maintain sales momentum. I think that is a large part of the angst here with CS, we keep hearing about them even though no one here really considers them a "real member" of the knife making community.
 
i have a cold steel thrower, and im gonna buy more CS knives for throwing

I woudnt compare it to my fallkniven tho

they are fun knives, for the throwing that is, dunno about other uses, never realy used it for anything else :D
 
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