Cold Steel= flat out liars

cs should probably get its own manufacturer forum, but i think that would require some kind of permission from the company. it would be a good move on there part, sort of level the playing field.
 
. it would be a good move on there part, sort of level the playing field.

They had one at one time, until they let slip what San Mai steel really was, then they declared too busy to operate the forum.

Actually it wouldn't work, as most of the people here demand truth.
 
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OK, your collection of animal-related embellishments (for lack of a better word) is officially impressive.:)
One question ...
What the heck kind of animal is that thing?:confused:
Some type of hamster?

It's an elephant shrew.
 
Looks like Bastid took about six Cold Steel threads and merged them into one biiiiiiiig Cold Steel thread.
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Can someone explain the difference between cold steel and a sebenza? I tried to search but I couldn't find anything. THANKS!



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Oh lord... here we go again.

I don't want to be accused of hijacking this thread back to its original topic, but:

I spoke to Lynn a couple of days ago, and told him about the ad copy stating that the CS kukri is the heaviest on the market and that HI markets heavier blades.

He immediately went and told his graphics and advertising staff to remove it from the copy. So it should not be in next year's catalogs and should be removed from the website soon.

I am going to try to not add anymore fuel to this ridiculous fire. All I would say is for those of you indignant, holier-than-thou CS haters, please feel free to come out from behind the keyboard and confront LT and his crew at the various shows and events that they attend. Ask him to explain himself. Actually confront and talk to him. I think you might find that he is very different from your initial impressions and that he is earnest and sincere about both his business and about knives.

I have said it before, you will not find a bigger or more educated knife knut than Lynn.

sigh...

And now the haters will pick apart my every word and somehow prove that LT was involved with the JFK assassination, the sinking of Atlantis, and toenail fungus. And I think you can probably create some logical link between the Proof dvd productions and global warming. Yea, we know- LT and CS are responsible for all the ills of the world.

And, btw- just a personal note- those of you who like to slam LT by pointing out his weight- grow up. If you can't take your discussion and debate skills beyond 2nd grade schoolyard ridicule, perhaps you should either a) read a book or two, or b) find a forum more in line with your intellectual capacity- like a Beavis and Butthead convention. "Heh, heh... he's fat... heh heh."

Just a suggestion.
 
First, I did make fun of his weight. I weigh 350 pounds, and stand 6'3". I am not a big boy, I am not husky, I am fat. I still go out and have a good time hiking, fishing etc. I don't sit and count how many Twinkies I have eaten (actually none, I don't eat that crap). Read my posts on here and JD, I am usually making fun of myself and my weight. Lynn has a gut. So what. He is not as big as me.

Second, I have owned some Cold Steel products that really surprised me in their quality. Lynn offers some quality reproductions of regional weaponry. I have never met him, have never talked to him online. I bear no ill will towards him, nor any other feeling at all. He's a knife manufacturer, who serves a niche. Some people attack his character on here, I have seen all kinds of stuff that manufacturers do, getting over on each other and stealing each others designs. I only make fun of Lynns dvds. It is fun to watch a guy make a fool of himself, and have a good time. I don't pick his dvds apart, I don't care about a beef he has with Strider, I don't care period. I only look at the knives he makes. Some are absolute crap, some are good, some are great. Lots of companies out there like that. Lynn is a sort of infamous celebrity in this community, so his name is out there more.

God bless the guy and his company, I got no beef with him. You have to admit he is a little nuts though :D.
 
Spyderco inventedthe pocket clip for knives in 1981. All companies seem to have "copied".

Only two asked permission, and only one paid me a royalty. that was Lynn Thompson.

sal
 
Lynn couldn't get this kind of free publicity for $10 million big ones.

Gee, how many times can we say "Cold Steel" on an internet page?

Any publicity is good publicity...."thanks for the exposure guys, love, Lynn"
 
advertising staff to remove it from the copy

If indeed Lynn did that then good. But I would have to wonder about the cluelessness of the advertising writers you'd think they check on that before writing such.
 
Spyderco inventedthe pocket clip for knives in 1981. All companies seem to have "copied".

Only two asked permission, and only one paid me a royalty. that was Lynn Thompson.

sal

That's a powerful statement.

I was speaking with a well-known knife designer recently about his experiences with different manufacturers (a very enlightening conversation). He mentioned that he has had no experience with Cold Steel/LT except that when he came out of one of his many back surgeries, Lynn had sent him a whole box of nice canes out of the blue. He appreciated that. :thumbup::)

On the other hand, I've been warned by people that have had separate dealings with Lynn to avoid a business relationship with him, should such an opportunity arise in the future. :(

Is LT two different people?:confused:
 
I have used a few cold steel knives, and then passed them on. O.k. knives, not real high quality. I only own one now. It stays in my camp cook kit, A little overpriced I think. For the price range I would be looking at crkt.
 
Lynn couldn't get this kind of free publicity for $10 million big ones.

Gee, how many times can we say "Cold Steel" on an internet page?

Any publicity is good publicity...."thanks for the exposure guys, love, Lynn"


well, I don't want to leave you out so here:

So, after reading about batoning here, I decided to try it while having an evening campground trip with the family tonight. I was making my first attempt on a birch log, using another piece of birch for a baton, when the knife broke at the blade-handle junction. I don't have a digital camera, but I'll try to get pics of it at some point.

I don't know whether to fault the knife or my own lack of skill on this one. I had held onto the handle until the blade was solidly into the log, then was just hitting the back of the blade to drive it all the way into the log, at which point I was going to grab the handle again and start batoning the projecting end of the blade. The blade was not yet all the way into the log when the handle just snapped off. (I was lightly holding onto it at the time just to balance the log.)

The break is nice and clean, no chips or shards missing.

Oh and lets not forget:


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First off I'm a Cold Steel fan... at least I have been. Good knives, designs, and fair prices and I've probably sold a few with my advocacy. I've been teaching winter survival skills to a young mens group in our church where I'm a youth leader. Currently we're doing firemaking skills with flint and steel; the real kind like when it's snowy outside, windy, and about 10 degrees out. I find few people can make a fire in such conditions and it takes some teaching and practice to build the skill and get confidence in doing it. And that's what we're doing.

Along with practice, as I've told the boys, you need a good survival knife. One that can hack wood and split logs under hard use. It's an essential piece of gear in the back country: not too heavy to be left behind but sturdy enough to do the job. That's where the CS Recon Scout comes in.

Most of the boys, at my recommendation, have purchased their own survival knife to be used in these exercises. My recommendations including Becker BK7s & 9s, CS Recon Scout, Kabar Next Gen, and SOG SEAL 2000; all good knives for their money. Or so I thought. A few bought the Recon Scout including another leader. It was this other leader's Recon Scout you see broken in half below.

The conditions on this winter campout were about 5 degrees and clear on this morning when we started to split some more wood. The other leader was just started to hammer the RS through the pictured log when I remarked what a good blade it was and how he was probably going to hand it down to his kids later on. Nice timing. No sooner had the words left my mouth when the blade literally shattered! We were in shock. The knife wasn't even taking a big split of that log either. The leader is currently getting it replaced under warranty as it was only a month old.
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This is a very serious failure in my opinion. Splitting wood was mandatory to find the dry stuff in the snow. This was a no-kidding backpacking winter trip where a fire wasn't just nice to have it was almost mandatory. From preventing frost bite to drying clothes to cooking the fire was a necessity. If we'd been in another couple miles up the mountain and had no other backup blades (we had several) the loss of this Recon Scout could have been very serious indeed. :eek:

I don't know what CS makes the Carbon 5 steel out of but my confidence in their blades has taken a serious hit. Maybe they should put a warning on their C5 blades not to use them below 15 degrees. Failure of this sort is inexcusable no matter the cold or what not. A survival knife should take any condition you find yourself in... if it can't you should pitch it. :mad:


ARE YOU HAPPY NOW:D
 
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