Cold Steel= flat out liars

shotgunner11 said:
I wonder how much in royalties he's paying to the D.H. Russell company for the Canadian Belt Knife.
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Keith Montgomery said:
For the last fifty years the company that has owned the rights to make Canadian Belt Knife is Grohmann, and from what I understand, Cold Steel have never paid them a dime. From what I understand, the design is trademarked.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492653

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4826462&postcount=548

Regards,
3G
 
All the Cold Steel knives I've owned have been well built/durable knives worth the price I paid for them. regardless of advertising that's just ridiculous. If you don't have any NEW information to post about Cold Steel, why do you post? The mods should know by now what info is new or not and shut down any posts that aren't relevant. I hate to waste my time looking thru threads full of info that's been posted over and over. If you don't have any new information to bring to light, stop posting the same 'ole same 'ole.... Come on...
 
John79 said:
I created this beast and I would like to ask you all to PLEASE let it die!
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All this could have been avoided if you had just performed the search function and read the countless threads with all the dribble you could ever want:D

But then this black hole of the web would not have been created.:D

now you must live with your creation for it has taken on a life of it's own

Hey, I wonder if Lynn is Paying Strider Royalties ?????;)
 
I have 3 Cold Steel knives and I think they are good quality relative to the price I paid (under $30 bucks)
What else could I ask for?
I do not care about the personalities or the politics involved.
If I spent my life worrying about every products history, background and politics I would not find many things that would be acceptable after closer scrutiny.
Life is too short to get hung up with rubbish that does not really matter in the end.
 
Thanks 3gaurdsman, I meant the Grohmann thing as a facetious remark, but I appreciate the links. I think that one is a shame. Thats a small canadian company who has had good success with a design just to get it ripped.

The Strider thing, I like Strider, but Mick and Lynn have a personal feud going on and theres more to that than just ripping designs, plus this thread isnt' about Strider, thats a whole other can of worms.
 
shotgunner11 said:
The Strider thing, I like Strider, but Mick and Lynn have a personal feud going on and theres more to that than just ripping designs, plus this thread isnt' about Strider, thats a whole other can of worms.
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I really think we should combine all the Cold Steel and Strider threads into one long mega thread:D
 
Hey, I wonder if Lynn is Paying Strider Royalties
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I wonder how much in royalties he's paying to the D.H. Russell
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Who gives a F who pays what or who for "royalties"?
Leave that stuff to the patent lawyers
It should have no bearing on person's knife purchasing decision
 
Thanks for your input Trent.

If you don't care, don't care.

If I want to, I will. But one more time, Thanks.
 
STR said:
Yeah thats better than Close Quarters Combat for sure. The lawyer said he thought it was Close Quarters Carry knife. You should have seen his jaw drop when I told him what it really stood for. :eek: He thanked me for my time and headed out in short order after learning that shaking his head as he walked out the door. The funniest part about that meeting to me, and I mean no offense to anyone of you youngsters but to me it was funny, because he looked like a kid with a $1200 suit and a manicure to me standing there in my overalls but I guess all you male youths look like kids to me anymore. I see male kids driving and they look like they are 13 and I see these young girls that my teacher friend assures me are in the 9th grade that look 19 with bodies like those you see on the cover of Cosmo but I guess I'm a dirty ole man by admitting that huh? :D I can't tell anymore the ages of these young. No wonder they still card everyone all over the place.

I don't know what happened after that with the case but I'll tell you it woke me up even more to how you can easily end up having what you got on you turned against you in a heartbeat by someone with a mindset to do so, and probably even if your use was defensive and justified you would potentially be in a world of hurt. I think also that if the knife is in a video being used to stab and slash meat and even if its only used to just cut up a cardboard cut out of a human figure it can't be good for you if that same video or DVD is in the prosecutions hands in a court room showing a jury what that knife was designed for, with questions like this being thrown at them, 'why would anyone carry a knife like this?" Let me show you why.

Can you imagine the lynching that poor sap on the defense would get? I certainly can. No I agree whole heartedly that the entire knife community is hurt by these hype videos my friends.


STR
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Recently i was at a club, and i noticed a guy had a spyderco clipped to each pocket. so i asked him what he carried and i started to with him about knives, and firearms and the like. He said that it was his intent to get a pink spyderco rescue, just in case he ever had to use it for sd. I would love to see the case against the guy.
 
Trent Rock said:
Who gives a F who pays what or who for "royalties"?
Leave that stuff to the patent lawyers
It should have no bearing on person's knife purchasing decision
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Well, considering that this is a knife forum, one would not really think that you would find the "who cares" question here. But since the question has been posed---

---knifemakers

---knife manufacturers

---knife purveyors

---knife collectors

---friends and relative of the above

---anyone who cares about honesty and decency in everyday life, and does not think that this is something to be left to or decided by lawyers.


Now where does that leave you?
 
The public and obvious actions of a company give a pretty good idea of what takes place behind their closed conference room door. That being said, Weidmannsheil made three sizes willow leaf fixed blades identical to the Grohmann profile and that was more than 15 years ago. Look in Parkers 2006-6 catalog- I bought (then sold) one. How many others have, and when, may be a factor. Maybe it was the Weidmannsheil that was copied. Who knows?:) Regards, ss.
 
Schrade made the LB7 and Taylor cutlery, as well as Parker, and Frost as well as countless others which are all copies of the Buck110 and the list goes on. This happens in all industries and fields and nothing is going to prevent it, not the policing of individuals, not the patent office and certainly not the companies making the products.

When I invented my sterilizable sharpener for the dental hygienists to use so they had a clean uncontaminated sharpener with every patient they were using scaler instruments on that could be packed up and run in the autoclave with them, and not one that needed oil it wasn't out for a month before some other company had one selling them in hoards for less money. All they had to do was make theirs slightly longer, sligtly wider, and give it a different name and it was all legal. So goes the world. I learned then a patent isn't worth the paper its written on.


STR
 
STR said:
Schrade made the LB7 and Taylor cutlery, as well as Parker, and Frost as well as countless others which are all copies of the Buck110 and the list goes on. This happens in all industries and fields and nothing is going to prevent it, not the policing of individuals, not the patent office and certainly not the companies making the products.

When I invented my sterilizable sharpener for the dental hygienists to use so they had a clean uncontaminated sharpener with every patient they were using scaler instruments on that could be packed up and run in the autoclave with them, and not one that needed oil it wasn't out for a month before some other company had one selling them in hoards for less money. All they had to do was make theirs slightly longer, sligtly wider, and give it a different name and it was all legal. So goes the world. I learned then a patent isn't worth the paper its written on.


STR
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A 'design patent' is next to worthless. A well-written 'utility patent' might have been of good use --- hard to say with something like that. So much depends upon the skill/savvy of the one writing the patent.

From what I understand, Cold Steel is going for a number of patents on various knife-related technology. You can bet these patents will be vigorously defended.
 
I think CS are sinners and sinned against in the design rip offs. The master tanto and spike copies are all over ebay. The Strider designs were hardly new. I used to sell a throwing knife which was pretty similar 25 years ago!!!
 
You are right, if I didn't want this to happen, I should have never made it. You all have the right to post here if you like, and I'm sorry for trying to stop you. Thats what this forum is about, posting about knives and your feelings about them, and thats all you are all doing. Also I apologize for beating the dead horse. Have fun with it.
 
I don't know about the space time deally, but I'm fairly sure it would shut down the internet, man, Al Gore would be pissed.
 
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