Concerns About Survive! Business and Misleading Lead Time Estimates

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Hale Storm said:
Ditto. If the AG and FTC are actually getting involved, I'd like to know about it. I only have one knife on order but I've been round and round trying to get it shipped. I sure hope it gets here before the SHTF.
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Pheeww.. ok, so I had a mini panic attack on my remaining order. Well, as been said, good bit of advice for any and every SK! customer--- do NOT spend more on an SK preorder then what you could afford to lose. No amount of money would feel good to lose but it would be foolhardy to invest something that would hurt you financially if you lost.
 
That they are involved, Fact. That they will levy fines/seize assets/charges, unknown. Based on the level of interest they have shown and amount of information requested action of some form seems highly likely,, and appropriate all things considered.


mlmcasual said:
THAT JimmR, is exactly THE million dollar legit point and focus you are left with once you throw out all the other back-forth arguments on both sides. Bottom line, it is not legal or fair to Influence a Sale with providing false shipment information at the point of sale and leading up to the point of sale, and also AFTER the point of sale if it hasn't delivered. That's not my opinion, that's the LAW!. So we are well past the back-forth arguments of business model survivablity conjecture, were are now at the point of just asking SK to do what is required by law.
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Hale Storm said:
Ditto. If the AG and FTC are actually getting involved, I'd like to know about it. I only have one knife on order but I've been round and round trying to get it shipped. I sure hope it gets here before the SHTF.
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Skystorm said:
That they are involved, Fact. That they will levy fines/seize assets/charges, unknown. Based on the level of interest they have shown and amount of information requested action of some form seems highly likely,, and appropriate all things considered.
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Owwwwwww. Ok, well wasn't me I can tell you that. But assuming you are being straight with me, It definitely changes directions on some of my financial decisions. I seriously owe you one and thank you profusely as you may have saved me a TON of money. Good to know there are still decent people in this world that would help a stranger rather then potentially screwing over others with shill endorsements.
 
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S!K will close down after the GSO 7/7 and all factory 2nd's are shipped. Cancel orders now and demand refunds starting this week.
 
Silver Needle said:
This is a concern thread not a make-up-lies thread. Please stop.
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Appears to me this is a prediction thread. I got $500 that survive knives closes down mid February. Maybe next time around S!K will have their act together and hire somebody that can actually run their business.
 
Morrow said:
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Thank you Jason.

Dave
 
Placed order for GSO12 march 17th 2015... still no knife. did they ship these knives to the Sun to have them heat treating? the fastest manned spacecraft, traveled 24,790 mph. At that speed, it would take about 156 days to reach the Sun. By those mathematical equations we should have already received their knives by now. What's the holdup?
 
first alchemy said:
S!K will close down after the GSO 7/7 and all factory 2nd's are shipped. Cancel orders now and demand refunds starting this week.
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I get that you're frustrated, but making things up and rumor mongering aren't really helpful to anybody. Even if tongue in cheek, others may not realize it and spread it as actual information. Not trying to wade into the drama, just saying.

As for the speculation brought up by someone on folks doing work for S!K not being payed, I'll make a note here that I've had zero issues in that regard.
 
Kiah said:
I get that you're frustrated, but making things up and rumor mongering aren't really helpful to anybody. Even if tongue in cheek, others may not realize it and spread it as actual information. Not trying to wade into the drama, just saying.

As for the speculation brought up by someone on folks doing work for S!K not being payed, I'll make a note here that I've had zero issues in that regard.
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Negatives outweigh the positives in this thread. I've read almost all the way through this entire thread and it's completely infuriated me. Like I'm real aggravated to the maximum level. Almost to the point of breaking my own finger on purpose to distract me from even thinking about this company. I think the only way that I can get over this even after receiving a full refund is if I go hire an escort and just curse her out for 2 hours straight. 0 sex... total 100% mental abuse. Maybe that might make me feel better about dealing with this company. I wish like hell that my sources never told me a damn thing about survive knives and their current situation.
 
first alchemy said:
Negatives outweigh the positives in this thread. I've read almost all the way through this entire thread and it's completely infuriated me. Like I'm real aggravated to the maximum level. Almost to the point of breaking my own finger on purpose to distract me from even thinking about this company. I think the only way that I can get over this even after receiving a full refund is if I go hire an escort and just curse her out for 2 hours straight. 0 sex... total 100% mental abuse. Maybe that might make me feel better about dealing with this company. I wish like hell that my sources never told me a damn thing about survive knives and their current situation.
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This is disturbing and I'm becoming concerned for you. Do like mlm is doing and get your refunds so you can forget this whole thing and relax. I know that has been pretty meaningless advice for most of this thread, but for you I think it could really help.
 
first alchemy said:
Negatives outweigh the positives in this thread. I've read almost all the way through this entire thread and it's completely infuriated me. Like I'm real aggravated to the maximum level. Almost to the point of breaking my own finger on purpose to distract me from even thinking about this company. I think the only way that I can get over this even after receiving a full refund is if I go hire an escort and just curse her out for 2 hours straight. 0 sex... total 100% mental abuse. Maybe that might make me feel better about dealing with this company. I wish like hell that my sources never told me a damn thing about survive knives and their current situation.
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Why not let off steam in Whine & Cheese, here, instead of to some random female.
Kiah is a contractor, so his positive comment holds more weight than a lot of opinion.
 
Silver Needle said:
This is disturbing and I'm becoming concerned for you. Do like mlm is doing and get your refunds so you can forget this whole thing and relax. I know that has been pretty meaningless advice for most of this thread, but for you I think it could really help.
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What's really pissing me off is you. Youre their biggest fan boy and it completely aggravates me to the maximum level that you're trying to back this company up. There's nothing to back up or support. This company is a failure
 
first alchemy said:
What's really pissing me off is you. Youre their biggest fan boy and it completely aggravates me to the maximum level that you're trying to back this company up. There's nothing to back up or support. This company is a failure
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I have started a thread for you in W&C. Go & let off steam.
 
I've just sent an email requesting a refund for my 4.1, so this is now my 3rd order I've terminated.

I only have one outstanding order, which is the 4.7 preorder I paid for 17 months ago. In this same email I politely asked if my 4.7 will ship before the end of the year........so let's see what happens!

I think it's really sad what's happening with this company.
It's unfortunate that this thread started in the first place, but despite all the negativity and personal attacks that some members have inflicted upon others, some posts have been very helpful with informing us of what's most likely happening behind the scenes in this company.
 
Kiah said:
I get that you're frustrated, but making things up and rumor mongering aren't really helpful to anybody. Even if tongue in cheek, others may not realize it and spread it as actual information. Not trying to wade into the drama, just saying.

As for the speculation brought up by someone on folks doing work for S!K not being payed, I'll make a note here that I've had zero issues in that regard.
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Kia, just curious.. has BF ever had this much negative feedback from a BF hosted manufacture before? Or is this uncharted territory?
 
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