Corona thread. No politics please

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^ my younger brother is a staunch conservative. He and I do not share the same political beliefs and we often try to avoid talking about politics. I prefer to just keep in touch to ask about the well-being of his family, my nephews and my niece. Anything else, WWIII will ensure between the two of us and that is just the nature of the beast. FYI, as conservative as he claims to be, he abhors guns and avoids them like a plague (pun intended). I on the other hand, for a so-called commie, I am a gun toting bang-bang luv'ing one. What I am trying to tell you is that although the chasm is wide the gamut of beliefs between two full blood brothers in different camps can be quite topsy turvy if such beliefs are believed to solely belong to one certain tribe!

He also tried to "lecture" me about the agenda of Bill Gates as your 2 hour video suggests. In my older age, I have come to know one thing for certain: as long as there has been history, very-well-to-do, extremely successful and ultra wealthy people have had rumors, accusations and conspiracy theories spoken, written and directed at them. There is nothing new to that other than in the age of the Interwebs, these old-age conspiracies are much easier to spread and to propagate. I may be simple minded, but I am firmly in the Freudian camp of "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" when it comes to Mr. Gates.

As a foot note, our father was a surgeon. We lived in a handful of countries from the M.E. to Europe to the States during our lives. We were inoculated against a bunch of shyte that most natives in here have not had as part of the health care in this country. I believe in medicine and vaccination but my younger bro eschews them if possible as he only believes in the "good herb". Our father would turn in his grave. My position will not change.
 
Casinostocks said:
^ yes my friend, lots of people have already stopped caring about themselves and others when if comes to simply wearing a friggin mask/cover. Even a serious health issue has now become a political football therefore the majority of our two tribes going bonkers over the ever changing anti-COVID recommendations by our health expert.

I dunno if you heard or not, but in OC California both the health commissioner and her deputy resigned on Monday after protests both at their place of work and at their homes in addition to threats against their lives, for issuing strict countywide face cover orders as places of business are opening back up. In one snippet which I heard on the radio on this story, some batshit crazy woman demonstrator was screaming that this order was nothing less than what had happened to George Floyd!!! because having to wear a mask was impeding her breathing ability as god had designed us for, i.e, breathing in oxygen and breathing out CO2 ergo breathing back in the CO2 = suffocation :rolleyes: I know that creating through a mask can be difficult for certain people due to some health issues but really? That comparison? SMDH.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/08/nichole-quick-resigns-orange-county-coronavirus/
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The sheer stupidity coming from these entitled twits is laughable.
They’re the “Veruca Salt” of counties in Southern California.
 
Standard78 said:
The sheer stupidity coming from these entitled twits is laughable.
They’re the “Veruca Salt” of counties in Southern California.
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I really like Dan Crenshaw who is the Republican congressman from TX. I may not share a lot with him ideologically but I have come to respect him both as a person and as a thinker. When Pete Davidson of SNL cracked a few vapid and insipid jokes about the congressman, instead of getting all bent out of shape he said something to the effect of: try to get less offended but more importantly try to be less offensive to others! When I really get mad at someone these days, mostly because of politics, I try to remind myself of Mr. Crenshaw's sage words. He even went on SNL and made his peace with Davidson who also apologized for his stupidity.

It is hard to not get upset, mad and offended by the actions of the likes of the woman who I had cited but I try to remember to offer such people a mask if necessary than giving them a real piece of my mind. Wearing a mask during a pandemic ought not be political, it's a safety action. If I was taken to the ER and had to be operated on like immediately, if I notice that the surgeon and the OR staff are not wearing masks and PPE, I'd try to run away even if barely half conscious from that clusterf*ck. Wouldn't you?
 
Casinostocks said:
I really like Dan Crenshaw who is the Republican congressman from TX. I may not share a lot with him ideologically but I have come to respect him both as a person and as a thinker. When Pete Davidson of SNL cracked a few vapid and insipid jokes about the congressman, instead of getting all bent out of shape he said something to the effect of: try to get less offended but more importantly try to be less offensive to others! When I really get mad at someone these days, mostly because of politics, I try to remind myself of Mr. Crenshaw's sage words. He even went on SNL and made his peace with Davidson who also apologized for his stupidity.

It is hard to not get upset, mad and offended by the actions of the likes of the woman who I had cited but I try to remember to offer such people a mask if necessary than giving them a real piece of my mind. Wearing a mask during a pandemic ought not be political, it's a safety action. If I was taken to the ER and had to be operated on like immediately, if I notice that the surgeon and the OR staff are not wearing masks and PPE, I'd try to run away even if barely half conscious from that clusterf*ck. Wouldn't you?
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It honestly shouldn’t, but there always has to be some wannabe “cosplaytriot” out there that that thinks the country is violating their freedoms to be a Murican.

I just don’t see how following a simple safety precaution can be so hard for some to grasp.
In situations like this, my inner
“Sheepdog” wants to come out and tear her a new ass for wanting to jeopardize lives.

As far as Crenshaw goes, I respect the hell out of him.
 
Standard78 said:
I just don’t see how following a simple safety precaution can be so hard for some to grasp.
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it's pretty obvious to me, and although I don't personally think there's anything political about stating that reason out loud, I'll respect the spirit of this thread by leaving that elephant in the room undisturbed
 
So the local Costcos (pretty much where I go for the bulk stuff) are still very short on or have never been re-stocked with Lysol, latex gloves, isopropyl alcohol and Clorox disinfectant wipes but the TP and water rationing / shortages have been rectified. Is this about the same experience with most of you? I have managed to find some other alternatives as opposed to Lysol which is actually toxic and bad for your pets if you happen to use those chemicals quite liberally but I just don't know how good the alternatives are although this lavender thingie which Costco now sells just smells awesome. I am also becoming a bit of an aspiring chemist by buying more white vinegar, and ammonia to learn some hacks just like our older folks did before all these other toxic chemicals were unleashed on us :)
 
I was watching the interview with the prime minister of Greece where despite the fact that Greece is one of the poorer nations in the EU, as compared to France, Germany, the U.K and even Italy, it had managed to keep its COVID-19 transmission, contraction and fatality numbers to far lower percentile numbers as compared to those aforementioned wealthier ones with reportedly "better" healthcare services.

Apart from the Greek citizens maybe being more obedient and reticent toward the decrees from their government, by observing social distancing and personal protection orders the Greeks also enjoy better weather (more sunshine) and also eat better than their other European counterparts. Although the Italians have some wonderful cuisines as do the French (sorry Frazer, the English suck at this one and the Germans are meh too!) I believe that the Greeks eat better and simpler foods therefore may have better autoimmune systems.

You don't need to be very wealthy and very privileged to survive this plague, although that would certainly help. You just need to be smart by paying attention and also be conscious about your immune system by eating better and cutting our some of the bad stuff (excessive sugars, salts and trans fatty sh*ts) COVID-19 or what not.
 
Casinostocks said:
So the local Costcos (pretty much where I go for the bulk stuff) are still very short on or have never been re-stocked with Lysol, latex gloves, isopropyl alcohol and Clorox disinfectant wipes but the TP and water rationing / shortages have been rectified. Is this about the same experience with most of you? I have managed to find some other alternatives as opposed to Lysol which is actually toxic and bad for your pets if you happen to use those chemicals quite liberally but I just don't know how good the alternatives are although this lavender thingie which Costco now sells just smells awesome. I am also becoming a bit of an aspiring chemist by buying more white vinegar, and ammonia to learn some hacks just like our older folks did before all these other toxic chemicals were unleashed on us :)
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Good as in 'effective' or good as in 'safe/non-toxic'?

Either way, post the active ingredients or a photo of the label with the active ingredients.
 
I think the active ingredients are to the right of the word 'Lavender' below '32 gallons'. Can't make it out, but the length indicates it's likely a quaternary ammonium (long chemical name with the word ammonium near the end).

Quaternary ammonium compounds are generally good disinfectants, but specifically for Covid-19, at the recommended concentrations, it takes 10 minutes of wet contact for 99.999% disinfection.
 
bluemax_1 said:
I think the active ingredients are to the right of the word 'Lavender' below '32 gallons'. Can't make it out, but the length indicates it's likely a quaternary ammonium (long chemical name with the word ammonium near the end).

Quaternary ammonium compounds are generally good disinfectants, but specifically for Covid-19, at the recommended concentrations, it takes 10 minutes of wet contact for 99.999% disinfection.
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My apologies:

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Casinostocks said:
^ my younger brother is a staunch conservative. He and I do not share the same political beliefs and we often try to avoid talking about politics. I prefer to just keep in touch to ask about the well-being of his family, my nephews and my niece. Anything else, WWIII will ensure between the two of us and that is just the nature of the beast. FYI, as conservative as he claims to be, he abhors guns and avoids them like a plague (pun intended). I on the other hand, for a so-called commie, I am a gun toting bang-bang luv'ing one. What I am trying to tell you is that although the chasm is wide the gamut of beliefs between two full blood brothers in different camps can be quite topsy turvy if such beliefs are believed to solely belong to one certain tribe!
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Well, since you like dogs, guns & CPK, there might be hope for you yet. ;):D
 
More cautionary news:
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/coron...19-can-damage-lungs-without-showing-symptoms/

The Scripps study the article is referencing
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-3012

Some good news (you may have heard about the testing with Dexamethasone)
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

There's also been a small trial that's shown positive results with low dose radiation therapy.

The top link reinforces that a smart person will take the necessary precautions to avoid the chance of catching this.

Earlier in this thread (or was it the Random Thoughts thread?) I posted a link about the US military considering infection with Covid-19 to be a permanently disqualifying condition for potential recruits.

I don't recall posting this one, but it was an observation by a German doctor on the conditions of 6 divers who tested positive for Covid-19, but never developed symptoms consideres severe enough for hospitalization/treatment. His observations were that the lung damage they suffered despite the mild symptoms, may potentially prevent them from being able to safely dive again.

https://divernet.com/2020/04/25/covid-19-lung-effects-worry-diving-doc/
 
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