Crosscut Saw Thread

muleman77 · Jul 28, 2018

Just so this thread doesn't go too academic, here's some of last week's work running a CCC crew in a burn area. No glamour, just dust and dirt in 100 degree+ temps, at 4000 feet. Just a few pics, of a lot of work done.

No mules on this.

No real crosscut saw experience either, but they got better every day. We cut about 35 logs, filled the undermined burned stump holes, and treaded several miles that was in bad shape.

https://i.imgur.com/I7Joba0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXkpv9k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HzJlsD4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYTgrgx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zXjNm6Y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KQ1CpFG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nMdKbfh.jpg

Agent_H · Jul 28, 2018

muleman77 said:
Just so this thread doesn't go too academic, here's some of last week's work running a CCC crew in a burn area. No glamour, just dust and dirt in 100 degree+ temps, at 4000 feet. Just a few pics, of a lot of work done.

No mules on this.

No real crosscut saw experience either, but they got better every day. We cut about 35 logs, filled the undermined burned stump holes, and treaded several miles that was in bad shape.

https://i.imgur.com/I7Joba0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXkpv9k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HzJlsD4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYTgrgx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zXjNm6Y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KQ1CpFG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nMdKbfh.jpg

Awesome!

Square_peg · Jul 28, 2018

muleman77 said:
I put a couple of those adjustable height rolling stands for tablesaws off each end for extra support.

Those things are so handy for a million uses!

Square_peg · Jul 28, 2018

muleman77 said:
Just so this thread doesn't go too academic, here's some of last week's work running a CCC crew in a burn area. No glamour, just dust and dirt in 100 degree+ temps, at 4000 feet. Just a few pics, of a lot of work done.

No mules on this.

No real crosscut saw experience either, but they got better every day. We cut about 35 logs, filled the undermined burned stump holes, and treaded several miles that was in bad shape.

https://i.imgur.com/I7Joba0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXkpv9k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HzJlsD4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYTgrgx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zXjNm6Y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KQ1CpFG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nMdKbfh.jpg

Those burnt logs are so hard on a saw. But good work and thanks for doing it! I love the action shot with that saw slinging sawdust.

Miller '72 · Jul 28, 2018

muleman77 said:
Just so this thread doesn't go too academic, here's some of last week's work running a CCC crew in a burn area. No glamour, just dust and dirt in 100 degree+ temps, at 4000 feet. Just a few pics, of a lot of work done.

No mules on this.

No real crosscut saw experience either, but they got better every day. We cut about 35 logs, filled the undermined burned stump holes, and treaded several miles that was in bad shape.

https://i.imgur.com/I7Joba0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXkpv9k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HzJlsD4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYTgrgx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zXjNm6Y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KQ1CpFG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nMdKbfh.jpg

That's it man! :thumbsup:

Thank you for sharing your daily world with a few of us back in the concrete jungle.

muleman77 · Jul 28, 2018

Square_peg said:
Those things are so handy for a million uses!

They sure are. Another thing I do a lot with one is support longer pieces in my gas forge. Occasionally even a piece of wood at the table saw or planer!

Square_peg said:
Those burnt logs are so hard on a saw. But good work and thanks for doing it! I love the action shot with that saw slinging sawdust.

It is indeed hard on a saw. I primarily had them use a 7' Adkins that's seen a lot of hard use already. I carried that little Simonds in the picture for some choice cuts.... single bucking to finish a couple the we didn't want to be under for too long, and one underbucking cut. Saved it from the worst though!

crbnSteeladdict · Jul 28, 2018

muleman77 said:
Just so this thread doesn't go too academic, here's some of last week's work running a CCC crew in a burn area. No glamour, just dust and dirt in 100 degree+ temps, at 4000 feet. Just a few pics, of a lot of work done.

No mules on this.

No real crosscut saw experience either, but they got better every day. We cut about 35 logs, filled the undermined burned stump holes, and treaded several miles that was in bad shape.

https://i.imgur.com/I7Joba0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cXkpv9k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HzJlsD4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYTgrgx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zXjNm6Y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KQ1CpFG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nMdKbfh.jpg

I am surprised about CCC's direct firefighting duties. Respect.

San-Diego-Type-2-Fire-Crew-2-Cutting-Fireline-800x450.jpg

https://ccc.ca.gov/what-we-do/emergency-responses/fire/

Kevin Houtzager · Jul 29, 2018

Agent_H · Jul 29, 2018

This little guy followed me home last night. The older lady that had it said her husband had been a logger and he ran a handle on only end (the one with the half raker as she pointed out) It was a deal:

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

It’s 85” but I think it may have been longer given the one end.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy
It’s hard to get a good picture so here it is run in sections.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Salvageable?

phantomknives · Jul 29, 2018

Agent_H said:
This little guy followed me home last night. The older lady that had it said her husband had been a logger and he ran a handle on only end (the one with the half raker as she pointed out) It was a deal:

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

It’s 85” but I think it may have been longer given the one end.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy
It’s hard to get a good picture so here it is run in sections.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Salvageable?

oh yeah she's salvagable. might need some jointing though

Miller '72 · Jul 29, 2018

Agent_H said:
This little guy followed me home last night. The older lady that had it said her husband had been a logger and he ran a handle on only end (the one with the half raker as she pointed out) It was a deal:

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

It’s 85” but I think it may have been longer given the one end.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy
It’s hard to get a good picture so here it is run in sections.

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Salvageable?

Yes and what a great saw to learn a little of everything while bringing her back.
I dont have one that long...man I wonder if you have a jointer, one with nice long shoes, for those beauty long western saws :thumbsup:

Agent_H · Jul 29, 2018

Miller '72 said:
Yes and what a great saw to learn a little of everything while bringing her back.
I dont have one that long...man I wonder if you have a jointer, one with nice long shoes, for those beauty long western saws

I don’t yet. Beginning to see the value in one with long shoes.

I did pick up something else saw related on my way home from Mt. Hood this afternoon. It needs retrieval from my truck but prawn leakage in my backseat of the Taco has my immediate attention. I’ll grab a photo here soon.

My goal is to get set up more or less to take on the saws this fall/winter. Advice and anecdotes are welcome.

trailtime · Jul 29, 2018

Agent_H said:
Salvageable?

Looks good to me. Single handle hole and sway back like a feller, but wide body like a bucker. I had one similar that was a "Western Logger". Can you make out an etching?

muleman77 · Jul 29, 2018

I'd say pretty easily salvageable. All the teeth look like they are there, and with quite a bit of length.

Can you tell how its ground?

Agent_H · Jul 29, 2018

muleman77 said:
I'd say pretty easily salvageable. All the teeth look like they are there, and with quite a bit of length.

Can you tell how its ground?

phantomknives · Jul 30, 2018

Agent_H said:

I think he meant how the plate is ground but, is it thinner in the middle than at the ends?

muleman77 · Jul 30, 2018

phantomknives said:
I think he meant how the plate is ground but, is it thinner in the middle than at the ends?

This. Is the plate flat, taper ground (thinner at the back), or crescent (thinnest at the back, center)

Agent_H · Jul 30, 2018

phantomknives said:
I think he meant how the plate is ground but, is it thinner in the middle than at the ends?

muleman77 said:
This. Is the plate flat, taper ground (thinner at the back), or crescent (thinnest at the back, center)

Sorry for dropping out there - we ended up with company last night. I dug this gauge out the "treasure box"

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

Forgive my sketch but this is what I am getting - is this what we are looking for?:

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

This is what begged me to come home and join the family yesterday - 42"
Craftsman with a missing tooth - it's just long enough that when you handle it, the very tip is what wants to hit the ground if you let it. What do you guys make of the teeth - they seem messed with or used much?
Kind of a home-owner class of saw?

Teeth by Agent Hierarchy

phantomknives · Jul 30, 2018

i'v been meaning to ask you guys, how do you file your rakers? I don't have a sawfiler's file, would a triangular file work? i'v been using a mill bastard since i started and i'm wondering if there's a better way

Square_peg · Jul 30, 2018

A small half-round will get inside your rakers just fine.