DaQo'tah Forge said:
That would be an interesting question to ask them...
in that statement i actually used the wrong term, i meant toughness instead of robustness. the recon scout being more robust then the survival rescue knife, yet the survival rescue knife apperently being the stronger of the two according to cold steel going solely by their use of terms.
and there in lies where i have a problem with a lot what you've said thus far.
most specifically with these two sentiments:
DaQo'tah Forge said:
I have kept saying that the only person who has any right to answer that question is the maker....
DaQo'tah Forge said:
Now I have my point of view, based on my own gut feelings when I look at the photo, notice how deep it's stuck in the wood, , notice the banged up handle, the Huge guard that must have been sticking up in the way,,,
And noticeing that Im not sure this is a "Camping" knife in the first place!....
It is my point of view that based on what I know of camping, that this knife was NEVER designed to be thought of as a camper....To me it looks like a fighter....the huge guard,,,,the handle,,,,the point,,,,all say, "Fighter" to me,,,not "Log splitter"
But I could be wrong,,,,,If you guys can find anything writen by the maker or get an email from him (or them) that says the broken knife is a camp knife, or a survival knife, or a hunting knife, or whatever....and that it's made to split wood as shown in the photo,,,,,then you got an air-tight case against this knife,,,,
when you look for something that is capable of handleing a certain task, there are a set of criteria that must be met first in order acheive the given task without failure.
in the case of a log splitter,
-the knife must have an edge that is capable of initiating a cut into wood
-must not be so brittle that it shatters upon impact with a soft heavy object
-must not be so brittle that it shatters, breaks, or chips excessively upon contact with a rock or other imbedded objects
-must be long enough to accomidate a log hitting it and a hand holding it while splitting the log
-must have a proper heat treatment and geometry to handle the sudden shocks that occur when hitting it with another soft object *wood will give way before steel does, hence a soft object compared to the knife*
if it has all of these traits, the knife should be able to successfully split logs all day long without failure.
it has absolutely nothing to do with what the knife looks like, or what the manifacturer calls it, or what the manifacturer originally designed the knife to do. if it has all of the traits required of a knife to accomplish log splitting, it is a suitable log splitter. he can say that he only designed the knife to spread butter - and anything else is abuse, and it wont matter, because it meets the criteria of a log splitter.
in the case of the recon scout, it is a 5/16" thick fully flat ground knife using carbon v steel. carbon v is known to be a decent high carbon steel that is capable of taking abuse without immediate failure. it is long enough to accomidate a person holding the handle, and hitting the tip with a log to force it into another log in order to split it. the tip is not so thin that it will be immediately damaged by a log or heavy sudden force on it.
by all standards and criteria or the end users - this knife, the recon scout, should be able to split logs all day without failure (unless it hits a very large rock in the process). it does not matter in any way shape or form to the end user what the maker of the knife designed the knife to do, because it fits all the criteria of a log splitter.
now, as far as the makers warranty for replacing their blades, then what they state is the designated use is very very important. but not to the end user, unless the warranty comes into play.
if a fighter fits the criteria of a camp knife, it should be able to handle being used as a camp knife. if a boyscout knife fits the criteria of a fighter, then it should be able to handle the task of a fighter. if the knife is called the "little miss pony muffin cutting feather knife" and fits the criteria of a deer skinner, it should be able to handle that task.
it is true that in some instances it is unacceptable to use certain knives for other tasks - such as a 68rc m2 blade meant solely for the purpose of skinning, that is 1/16" thin (for an example, im aware that it would rust like crazy). were you to use that in any activity that created sudden shocks or impact to the blade, it would most likely shatter and cause you grevious injury. so, in that case, a skinner is not a camp knife, nor is it a fighter. but thats because it doesnt fit the criteria of a camp knife or a fighter - not because the maker says he didnt design it to be one.
biogon, i dont think that daqo'tah forge is a troll, just someone who has a steadfast opinion and the occasional slip of sarcasm.
