Customs Says "NO EXTENSION!" - They Want Your Pocket Knives NOW!

[Guntotin_fool]

This is what happens when people vote for a Chicago Hoodlum, they want to run an extortion racket on the whole Nation. take away your means of protection and independence, then they will supply "protection" for you in exchange for your balls.

 

[Foilist]

I wonder, statistically, how many crimes are comitted with folding pocket knives? My guess is that more crimes are comitted with big kitchen knives. What a bunch of nonsense.

 

[Bastid]

PS: I had to edit, on this subject I guess you have to count me out .
Any subject to do with the "Constitution" and My "Bill of Right" there is no compromise, and if I can't express my feelings on the subject guess I don't belong here.

You might be correct if you do not have the ability to keep politics out of a knife discussion forum. We have a political forum here for a reason and that is so we can keep the knife discussion forum centered on the discussion of knives. Bringing politics into the discussion does nothing for a knife discussion forum except escalate and inflame a subject that is not why this forum exists. I more than understand the frustration, please understand why political discussion is not welcome in this particular sub-form and the reasoning behind the rule.

 

[Andrew Colglazier]

I don't get this.

are they trying to say carrying a knife with a thumb stud over the border is not legal now?

can you ship them to/from canada?

can you carry one at all, even within the US, never mind the border?

please explain.

Here is my take on what this is all about:

First, the agency in question is in charge of deciding what knives can be imported by foreign manufacturers.

There is a standing prohibition on the importation of the classic "switchblade" knife, as we know it, a knife with particular characteristics such as a stiletto style blade and a blade that can be deployed using spring action at the push of a button.

In the past, companies which import knives have applied to the agency for permission to import knives with certain features such as a spring assisted opening mechanism, but features distinct from a classic switchblade design such as a thumb stud rather than a button on the handle of the knife. The CBP has allowed the importation of most of these types of knives.

Now, though, the CBP is proposing a change to their governing regulations which would make it more difficult to import knives that have mechanisms which open the blade using spring assist, or inertia, regardless of how similar they are in function to the classic switchblade. This is a proposed regulation, it hasn't yet happened.

They have set a date (June 21) for public commentary on their rule change, and they have thrown out their previous decisions on which knives may be imported. Previous decisions provided precedent or guidance for those who wanted to import knives.

This could have an immediate effect on knife imports. A more long-term impact is that many state and local bodies of government (not to mention federal) in the US look to the policies of these agencies when drafting legislation, because they mistakenly believe that these agencies have some kind of "expertise" on these issues.

As many other countries have implemented pretty draconian restrictions on what their citizens may carry/own in the area of knives, it is certainly reasonable to believe that the US could move in a similar direction, and this proposed ruling by the CBP seems to be just that.

Hope this helps.

Andy

 

[ArtinNC]

You might be correct if you do not have the ability to keep politics out of a knife discussion forum. We have a political forum here for a reason and that is so we can keep the knife discussion forum centered on the discussion of knives. Bringing politics into the discussion does nothing for a knife discussion forum except escalate and inflame a subject that is not why this forum exists. I more than understand the frustration, please understand why political discussion is not welcome in this particular sub-form and the reasoning behind the rule.

I see politics all over thes discussion, taking our knives is not about your knives it's about control, and that is politics.
And I'll stay out of this from now no, Art

 

[ArtinNC]

You might be correct if you do not have the ability to keep politics out of a knife discussion forum. We have a political forum here for a reason and that is so we can keep the knife discussion forum centered on the discussion of knives. Bringing politics into the discussion does nothing for a knife discussion forum except escalate and inflame a subject that is not why this forum exists. I more than understand the frustration, please understand why political discussion is not welcome in this particular sub-form and the reasoning behind the rule.

I see politics all over thes discussion, taking our knives is not about your knives it's about control, and that is politics.
And I'll stay out of this from now on, Art

 

[Bastid]

If you do not understand why we do not allow the discussion of party politics in this forum then I can not help any further. Yes that is what is involved but banging on the adminsration does nothing to further the cause other than to create a situation this forum where the main topic will be party politics (a very polarizing stance since few people stray from their stubborn stance of "my political party right or wrong till I die".)

There is an obvious and simple rule here and it exists for a reason.

 

[A. G. Russell]

If you do not understand why we do not allow the discussion of party politics in this forum then I can not help any further. Yes that is what is involved but banging on the adminsration does nothing to further the cause other than to create a situation this forum where the main topic will be party politics (a very polarizing stance since few people stray from their stubborn stance of "my political party right or wrong till I die".)

There is an obvious and simple rule here and it exists for a reason.

Gus,

You are, of course, correct. We need the congress persons of BOTH partys to help us here and calling names will not help.

Please do not restrict your appeals to only members of your own political party.

 

[flashlife]

...If things get to the point where the second amendment is repealed then you will have to give your guns up whether you like it or not, this is your duty as a citizen of this country.
....

There are duties higher than the arbitrary rules of tyrants.

 

[kycolonel]

So, as drugs such as opium flow over the transem of our borders and fill the coffers of the Taliban who kill our troops; illegal aliens cross the border unchecked and strain the health and welfare system of our country, the folks at Customs deem it important to crack down on AO assisted pocket knives, I assume to protect the citizenry "from themselves".

Nothing better to do boys, like perhaps search container ships for potential terrorist WMD's ? That's just great. Just f'n great.

 

[JTR357]

This is a terrible situation.I feel like I've just been punched in the stomach.

I'm waiting for the next move,Thanks Doug

 

[rmc85]

I'm sending out my letter today.

 

[monsterdog]

So, as drugs such as opium flow over the transem of our borders and fill the coffers of the Taliban who kill our troops; illegal aliens cross the border unchecked and strain the health and welfare system of our country, the folks at Customs deem it important to crack down on AO assisted pocket knives, I assume to protect the citizenry "from themselves".

Nothing better to do boys, like perhaps search container ships for potential terrorist WMD's ? That's just great. Just f'n great.

Obviously this move is to protect the citizens and legal aliens from the illegal invaders (which they let in), who carry these types of knives.

I happen to be a legal alien in this country, and its a punch in the *unmentionables* every time I go out to eat or see construction going on. I often wonder why I had to wait a year or more and pay thousands of dollars out of my own pocket, to be with the woman I love here. Not to mention being treated as a communicable disease vector and a criminal. But I guess doing things the right way doesn't count. OK, I'm getting off this soap box now, sorry.

 

[Josh K]

Let's keep polictical in Political guys.

 

[pvicenzi]

I've read where the original switchblade ban had nothing to do with crime. People who watched the popular gang movies of the period, were standing on street corners popping open switchblades. This scared many people, so the ban was made. I think we are our own worst enemy because history is repeating itself. Now it seems many people think the "cool" thing to do is flick open AO and thumstud knives. Once again people are frightened by this and we all may end up paying the price.

 

[AL73]

AG, you are absolutely right about this. This is NOT a partisan issue but a constitutional one and/or civil liberties issue as well. I already e-mailled my senator ( Gillibrand-D) and am going to drop a copy of the Kniferights.org letter to Scott Murphy's office today. This is getting out of hand. I hope AKTI hires the best law firm there is. Be well.

 

[goldie]

what would become of the knife shows,or gun shows that have knife purverors,wouldnt all those custom makers & dealers be crossing state lines with their "switchblades" ?what about all the stores that have these knives in stock, can they sell them? would they not be allowed to? do they eat them? so many things are a factor over this nonsense.....

 

[diamdave]

....we're on our way to life like in Zimbabawe....autocratic ruler, disarmament, hyperinflation to come..... bye bye America.

 

[p_mcmanis]

You really are a socialist.

Why, yes, yes I am.

Congratulations for guessing correctly. Now are you going to call me a jew as if that were an insult too?

Obviously this move is to protect the citizens and legal aliens from the illegal invaders (which they let in), who carry these types of knives.

Because no one but illegal hispanics commit crimes right?

There are duties higher than the arbitrary rules of tyrants.

exactly like the obligations to your fellow citizens who dont want you owning a gun.

This could have an immediate effect on knife imports. A more long-term impact is that many state and local bodies of government (not to mention federal) in the US look to the policies of these agencies when drafting legislation, because they mistakenly believe that these agencies have some kind of "expertise" on these issues.

which is exactly why the federal switchblade law should be changed so that it is perfectly clear what is a switchblade so that no interpretation is necesarry.

 

[HikingMano]

Keep political in political.


I'm waiting on the second set of letter templates (CBP and Congress right?) :thumbup:. Thanks for keeping on this for us Doug (and everyone else).