Cutlery Proposals for the Bladeforums 2015 Knife

knarfeng said:
14-4 CrMo is made by the Latrobe division of Carpenter Steel. It has the same composition as 154CM or ATS-34. Very good stuff.

A couple of years ago Canal Street was unable to get 14-4CrMo in thicknesses adequate for a stockman blade. Whether they can now obtain that today I do not know. If not, I would be quite happy with 440C.
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Oh, well that's awesome! If they confirm that it will have that steel then that's a huge plus for me in favor of the CSC.
 
Their 14-4CrMo is good stuff from my personal experience. Honestly, I wouldn't mind 440C either. They use both and both are very good stainless steels.
 
I'm torn. :) I'm a huge fan of the #81 size. My Abilene Stockman is my most carried traditional by far. If the GEC version is a single spring it would be really tempting to me, but I love the CSC because I currently have nothing quite like it.

Two forums knives this year? ;P No matter what is chosen, I'm in for at least one.
 
Add me to the crowd that likes the CSC over the GEC in this instance. While I'm not a big fan of Shadow's, it is a good looking knife, especially if they stick with a darker material. It just contrasts better with the pivots. The one thing I didn't care for with the updated proto with the brushed blades, was the edges and lines were too melted. Needs to have more definition. While I would prefer carbon steel, or D2, stainless has its place. Plus, I only have 1 CSC knife, and need to add another.

I like GEC, and have several of their knives, including the Abilene Stockman. Just not enough difference between it and their offering this go around to appeal to me.
 
If GEC made the main blade a sheepfoot and the secondary a pen, I'd go with that 81 in a heartbeat. Just sayin.
 
If gec could switch the spey for a coping and throw on some nice wood instead of the jigged bone, then I would probabely pick them. As it stands now however, I prefer the cs. My vote is for carbon, but stainless would not be a deal breaker.
I really am interested in the case offering.
 
I'm still a strong go for the CSC with the federal shield.

It really is a looker and a knife worthy of being a Forum Knife. While I think the GEC looks nice it just doesn't trip my trigger like the CSC does.

Dean
 
GreyCheer said:
I'm pretty sure that I'll be buying the 2015 knife no matter what; it'll be my first forum knife. I do like the CSC knife better as long as nothing is changed. I took some liberties and "swapped" the spey on paint. I thought it might be interesting and hope nobody minds.
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This is a winner in my book!
 
Big fan of the CSC. Bolsters or shadow. Something about it seems, well, transcendent. The GEC looks like another oversize GEC. Not that that's bad.
 
If we're not gonna get a Gunstock PunchNut..............

Of the choices so far, I like the CSC shadow pattern with the federal shield the best. Dark wood, pinned shield, lowered sheepfoot, all very nice. I'm not sure why, but that same knife with bolsters just loses its magic. It ,like ,looks so...1970's. :D
 
Is the federal shield set in stone on the csc? So many that I think would look better. Something longer and more horizontaly symmetrical (if that makes sense?) Seems a lot better to me on a knife with blades on both ends.
 
tdkfm said:
Is the federal shield set in stone on the csc? So many that I think would look better. Something longer and more horizontaly symmetrical (if that makes sense?) Seems a lot better to me on a knife with blades on both ends.
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Agreed. Either a symmetrical bar or gimp shield, centered on the frame.
 
tdkfm said:
Curious, why all the love for carbon blades? Ease of sharpening or you just enjoy patina or what?
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I won't presume to speak for others, but for me it's a few things, a couple of major items which you pegged:

- patina lends to a quickly antiquing nature of the genre...it's like chrome on a 57 Chevy

- easy sharpening means I can, literally, ALWAY sharpen it (1095 will strop a mild roll on a pair of decent jeans)

- "softer" (420/440) stainless performs poorly to 1095 in my experience

- carbon will throw a nice spark from a ferro rod

- and an odd one...I take better care of my carbon knives post-use. They get cleaned well, which in case of Trads, means I don't get gunked-up springs/joints

- if I'm willing to sharpen a tougher steel, I absolutely love "semi-stainless" D2, A2, 01, M4 and ATS-34...there really aren't many stainless options that will outperform these upgrades by a marked margin

I'm sure someone wiser will have more reasons, but those are mine.

Inversely, I am desperately hoping for Micarta. Tough is tough!
 
neeman, I'm happy to stay in that context.

440C is more corrosion resistant and more abrasion resistant, at the cost of being harder to sharpen to a keen edge via traditional sharpening tools.

Many of my aforementioned opinions still hold, ignoring the other steel options.

Joe
 
I would love the Canal street design either way, but I would definitely still prefer it to be stainless. I have tried CSC's 440C with their 'Erics Jack' and found that when a good edge is put on, it performs really well! I wasn't expecting it to respond that well to a strop, but it really did. I accidentally sliced a 1/4 of an inch wide bit of skin off my left thumb, which left me a little shocked at its sharpness. (No blood though, luckily!)
I do like stropping 1095 as well, but I have found that cutting up fruit will patina a polished edge, which seems to dull it far more than a fine toothy edge, which I tend to leave my GEC's at now.
What I'm trying to say is, try to consider 440C as a good option, I was originally put off by it thinking it would only perform well with a rough edge, but I've found the opposite to be true.


Also, we haven't had stainless on a forum knife yet, so why not try something different! :D
 
I really like the Canal Street proposal. Eric has designed/prototyped a beautiful knife. I prefer carbon steel blades, but I'm not against stainless steel. I appreciate Great Eastern's proposal. Really curious to see Case's proposal and am glad to hear that Queen will be in the running next year.

Can't thank Charlie enough for heading this up and everything else he does to contribute to our knowledge and enjoyment of fine knives.
 
SadSappySucker said:
If gec could switch the spey for a coping and throw on some nice wood instead of the jigged bone, then I would probabely pick them. As it stands now however, I prefer the cs. My vote is for carbon, but stainless would not be a deal breaker.
I really am interested in the case offering.
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I'll second this. A Railsplitter-like Coping secondary blade and I'm in for the GEC! I'm not a Sheepsfoot fan at all.
C'mon Case, show us something!
 
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