Do you bring your knife to Church?

I attend a fairly small church and teach Sunday School. I always have a knife or two on me. One time in Sunday School, one of the cover plates on an electrical outlet was dangling, creating a safety problem for the kids. I whipped out my trusty Victorinox, and in front of all the kids and other teachers, screwed it back into the wall.

The response? One of the women said, "Good thing you had that knife in your pocket." I replied, "Well, I try to be prepared, but if this little knife didn't work, I have more tools in my truck."

Every chance I get, I put the words knife and tool in the same sentence. Now when anyone needs to use a knife as a tool to fix/cut something, I'm the first person they look for. I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Yes and if we're going out to eat after then my snub .38 also.

What makes a person good or evil is in their heart not pocket.
 
Hello, this is my first post on this thread and I have enjoyed the discussion
so far.
I would like to point out that the dark and middle age churches were
built so massively so that they could be used as fortresses. Like the
Doma Sophia in Istanbul was designed out of literally tons of stones.
As far as carrying a knife, I would and have and see no problems with
carrying at all, PC is just silly. Now as far as a handgun I would not
unless the Pastor or Deacons said it was fine. I would prefer if their
were laymen or Deacons designated to carry. If the church was in a
high crime area though and would have to search myself to find if it
was okay.
Personnally, if it were my child and I was offfended by what was said
I would talk to the leaders and if there answears didn't satisfy me I
would probrably disassociate from them and fine a new scout troop.
 
a preist that comes to our church carries a bowie knife and has never even gotten a second look
 
Truthfully, I've never given it a second thought. When I dress my billfold goes in my right rear pocket, my change and a slipjoint folder go in my left front pocket, and an edc goes in my right front pocket. I've never been asked about it. :) :) :)
 
Lone Hunter said:
Yes and if we're going out to eat after then my snub .38 also.

What makes a person good or evil is in their heart not pocket.
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Well said and amen.

I EDC a small Sebbie 6 days a week. On the Sabbath I carry a Schrade Old Timer stockman that I inherited in 2001 when my Grandpa passed away. The Old Timer attended church each Sunday with him, as it does with me now. It's a connection to my past and the wonderful relationship I had with Grandpa.

Technically, I also have a blade on my LM P4 since it's attached to my keyring, but in reality I never use it because I always have either the Sebbie or the Old Timer.

I, too, EDC the "gentleman's" handkerchief always (and with 4 young kids it's a good thing, too).
 
God either is or HE isn't.......HE is either everywhere or nowhere......then I propose what is the difference where, or when. or what knife one carries ?

-regards
 
I do not relinquish my knife, weapon or otherwise, unless getting on a plane or going into a courthouse. Anyone who wishes to relieve me of my knife may be unhappy with my response, but that is their concern.

I was a Boy Scout long enough to recall Be Prepared - how precisely is one prepared by leaving one's personal emergency gear outside, potentially in harms way from the elements, a scavenging raccoon or otherwise?

Will, were I in your place I would quite frankly inform those who would instill gun control, disarmament and lack of preparedness to stuff their own pocket-carries into a slightly more personal and uncomfortable pocket rather than stuff such nonsense down my child's gullet.

Anytime I have gone into a church, synagogue, temple, dojo, kwoon, beach, what have you in the past twenty-eight years or so, I have been carrying a knife. Or two. Some days three or four, depending on what period of my life we are discussing, and what was on the menu that day. I was a Christian, albeit not a very good one, some time ago. Recalling the basics, I will second the notion, that God was/ is everywhere, all knowing, etc. Therefore, in addition to knowing if I am wearing the underwear with the hole in an uncomfortabl spot, he/ she/ it knows I have a knife or two with me and quite frankly, in the context of an entire universe I would have to imagine this is pretty small potatoes. I also recall all those words about helping oneself, protecting and serving others. I do not carry a knife as an offensive weapon. It may become, however, a defensive weapon, should a desperate situation enfold, as well as being a very useful tool.

Visiting my father in the ER several years back I strapped on a two knives that would not be looked kindly upon by the local gendarmes prior to making the trip down; it was of no consequence that the locals would not appreciate the hardware, as the natives were not entirely civilized in that particular burg. My rights and responsibility extended in that situation primarily to the well-being of my wife and myself rather than that of the locals, and certainly not the whimsy of some semi-literate and well-meaning idiot who found himself or herself in a position of "authority" and felt that "something has to be done." When this something is done, it usually winds up dumbing down the general populace to the betterment of none.

Law of man, law of nature, law of God, none of them preclude my right and responsibility to maintain my safety and security on all fronts as best as I can. The Boy Scouts used to teach such things as I recall. It appears this is the case no more.
 
Steve-O said:
This is a long standing tradition, mostly because the priests/pastors don't want to get murdered.



Yes, but the clerics are still in fear of their lives, and for good reason.



Why?



You are correct, they are far too small.



No, I would never go to any church.



Well said, you should not worry in any case.

As long as you remember that there are no fairies, hobgoblins, heaven, UFOs, enormous ants, angels, leuprechans, ghosts, trolls, precognition, aliens, souls , miracles, magic, little green men, deamons, god, wishing on a star or the benefits of eating the brain of your opponent.....you might be fine.

I wish you luck (something I cannot control),


steve
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Ohhh, there are definitely trolls!:D
 
Blue Jays said:
Hi All-

Knifeclerk, trust me that I see your position on this...

The difference between shoes and knives can be illustrated through history. I've spent considerable time in southeast Asia and have removed my shoes to visit churches, temples, restaurants, stores, and homes. This practice is steeped in ANCIENT tradition, is a sign of respect, and helps to keep these places clean and free from harmful germs. My full-size knives were absolutely welcomed in each.

The situation explained by Will is a modern, knee-jerk, ham-fisted technique to create a solution for a problem that does NOT exist. Are the boys taking knives to each others throats at the service? Are the Tenderfoots starting to rumble with the Cub Scouts in the other room? It is the classic liberal quest to do something about something to make society "safer"...no matter the cost. Fleeing the situation to join another group of scouts isn't necessarily the solution.

You mentioned about adhering to the rules. That is very noble and I would agree with you 99% of the time, but sometimes the rules are wrong. The theaters in my area have the 16-year-old ushers requesting to peer in customer bags for "security" purposes as they enter the movie. I simply say, "No thank you!" and brush past them. It's a silly plan that is not based on law and I simply won't comply. It's yet another outrageous rule designed to help people "feel" safer when no additional safety exists. My guess is that they are using terrorism as a disguise to search for smuggled candy and sodas...not to increase security.

In closing, Will mentioned that the scoutmasters wouldn't know and wouldn't care about knives being brought to service. It appears that EVERYONE recognizes the absurdity of this inane rule. With that being the case, the scouts and their fathers should ignore the policy and teach their kids a valuable civics lesson at the same time.

~ Blue Jays ~
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In response to this, I must say that I don't think you know where I'm coming from. Not entirely anyway. When I first read the inital post, I was reminded of Romans 13:1-6. In short, it states that the authorities are appointed by God, and resisting them will incur judgement.
I would like to remind you all that Paul was in prison at this time. Or perhaps he was only under arrest. I can't quite remember now.
That is why I say that if you were to have so much of a problem, it is probably a good idea to think about switching troops or churches or something of the like.

As for my complete take on the matter:
I think that you should not do anything outside of church that you would not do inside. And that goes both ways. I think that it is important to be real with God. That does not require putting on a false face or attitude while going to a church. That said, if I wasn't comfortable wearing knives inside of my church, then I probably shouldn't be having them outside. Likely that would mean that I see them as weapons or something.

-KC
 
My church is when I’m sitting on the beach - watching the sun rise or set, or standing in a field covered with the multi coloured flowers of Spring, or walking through a rainforest full of winding creeks listening to the sounds of insects. This is my church, this is when I spend time with god – and I can carry anything I like without fear of condemnation from someone who thinks they know best.

The only time I will be crammed into a 4 walled building like a sardine in a can, and told this is gods way, is when I have to attend a Funeral or a Wedding.
 
Bobwhite said:
I carry one to church all the time. A knife is only a weapon when it is employed as such. It is a matter of intent. This is like that whole "tactical" silliness. A weapon is anything I use to hurt or kill with. Tactical is the means in which I use it.
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this is a very lucid thought. i agree.
 
I have never had a problem with a knife in church always carry one. Currently a benchmite auto.
 
I do not attend a church, but I do attend a Monthly Meeting of the Religious Society of the Friends of Truth, the Quakers. I do carry my Virginia legal EDCs to Meeting and to other Quaker events. I am usually carrying my Terzuola/Spyderco StarMate or my BenchMade Switchback. If I am going to something more formal, then I will carry my Kiwi or my BenchMade Gent's Pocketknife. I have, however, been knwn to bring my CUDA MAXX 5.5 to the occasional function where a large knife might be useful. :)
 
i never lay down my means of self defense , unless aquired by law. I never found anything in the bible that said that u can't carry a knife. Let's remember that we are all free men, we are not slaves. Beeing a free man/woman means that u have the right to carry a weapon. I don't know why the church would be against knives, or firearms. Maybe some local priests can be against weapons but the Vatican doesn't seem to mind their Swiss guards to carry glocks and MP5's in the vatican.
They are against killing innocent people, and every sane person should think the same, whatever religion. But " an eye for an eye" still applies to christianity.
 
Considering the number of sexual abuse cases involving priests and young boys in the last few years, I think a scout would be well advised to carry at least a knife. :)
 
I don't go to church, but I would assume that with many church events, like pot lucks and picnicks, having a knife around would be a good idea. I would feel somewhat compelled to bring a more gentlemenly knife though, rather than a tactical folder.

The few times I have been to church or church functions, it was in rural Kansas, where probably half the congregation had at least a small slipjoint or something, including my 10 year old cousin.
 
Planterz said:
The few times I have been to church or church functions, it was in rural Kansas, where probably half the congregation had at least a small slipjoint or something, including my 10 year old cousin.
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I currently live in rural Kansas and I bet more than half the congeration "including some of the women" carry a pocket knife of some sort either in their pocket or in the purse's of the ladies. I doubt if any of them consider their knives as weapons and would be suprised to find that others might.
 
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