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does this one come grinded down like the last one you sold me
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Rick Smith,
The custom sar 3 you sold me had glue on the handle, and when I rubbed my thunb over it, the glue came off with a tiny pice of wood. I told you I had to send another knife in to Busse and I would send yours in as well. Did I ask you for a refund? Did I ask you to give me money back? So how am I trying to extort discounts??
Boris what did you want from me when you sent the email if you didn't want a refund? The knife was as new from Busse custom shop. Maybe you should start ordering straight from Busse so you will have no one else to blame if the knife isnt absolutely perfect. You seem a little sketchy to me. I've bought and sold hundreds of knives here and on Ebay with 100 percent positive feedback.
TheBladeMaster
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When you contacted me it turned into you wanting $100 back to you paypal or a refund.
Looking at the time line, I don't believe that he had the time to try a regrind.
Blademaster- I gave you my .02 for what happened- thats it bro. I'm done!
Godspeed!
Good. You're not helping anything here, just like you weren't on the thread TBM posted in the Busse forum. You dodged an infraction there, but you might just get one here from an Exchange Mod for insulting another member. Quit while you're ahead.
My opinion... I couldn't really see the problem from the pix in your FS thread...BUT, after seeing more detailed shots, I honestly do think (and again, this is my honest non-expert opinion) that this was a mis-grind from the Shop...the grind looks consistent along the edge and looks to be done by the same grit belts/sharpeners/whatever that they use. If this is indeed so, then Busse will make it right...
However. xBORISx did notify you in a timely fashion that there was an issue. Within 48 hours from the start of your thread, he stated that he wanted to reverse the deal. If this was my first deal, I'd be just as disappointed and most likely, I would have also asked to reverse the deal.
As for the other knife, the SAR3... xBORISx, I'd say that a good rule to follow if you receive a knife that you aren't satisfied with is... Don't attempt to "fix" it. Once you do, it's yours, IMO. I feel that once a person attempts to do anything to a knife received other than carefully inspect it then they have, in effect, immediately released the Seller from liability; the deal would then be done and they now own it regardless.
Alex- I have been nothing but respectful to you in every way possible-for a long time. As a Mod- be an unbiased participant- and make the call given the facts that you have from both sides. (PS- this is how the US law system works just as an FYI) Boris asked for a refund based on your input and advice-which I really appreciated-and if you follow the email threads- that you also read quite a while ago Alex. I have chose to take the higher road re: blademaster, and I will not say another word or insult anyone as I stated in the past post. Don't you threaten me though Alex for helping my friend who you sure as hell know- got ripped. If you or Esav feel the need to give me an infraction- then so be it.
CR33, While I respect people very much for standing up for their friends, I feel that the way that you did it here and on the thread in the Busse forum only served to do more harm for Boris than good. Just my opinion. Had you remained level-headed and posted calmly while giving Boris advice on how best to proceed, I feel that you would have been much more helpful as a friend in helping him resolve this mess.
BTW, In this forum, I am not a Mod. I can't infract you here. Sorry that you took my warning as a threat, but you did break several forum rules in your post and I see that you have already received an infraction from Esav on this thread for the post that I felt was out of line, too.
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First, I would like to thank Esav I hope that's the moderator who kinda got the ball rolling on this thread , by moving the sales thread started by blademaster, which I interfered in to this area.
I would also like to thank Jaxx for all his advice and help he has given me in the past.
My friend cr33 as well. Who is only trying to help me out, because I am new to the forum, and knows I got a bad deal.
As I said earlier, my goal in starting this thread is not to get my money back.
My goal in starting this thread was simply to tell everyone that I think Theblademaster is a dishonest seller, that's all.
I have purchased many knives here in my first month on the forums and all came perfect, as described by the seller, except my first purchase from the blademaster, and a tiny chip in a handle of a sar3 purchased from another member, which I did not make a big deal about.
I would also like to thank Jaxx for all his advice and help he has given me in the past.
My friend cr33 as well. Who is only trying to help me out, because I am new to the forum, and knows I got a bad deal.
As I said earlier, my goal in starting this thread is not to get my money back.
My goal in starting this thread was simply to tell everyone that I think Theblademaster is a dishonest seller, that's all.
I have purchased many knives here in my first month on the forums and all came perfect, as described by the seller, except my first purchase from the blademaster, and a tiny chip in a handle of a sar3 purchased from another member, which I did not make a big deal about.
Gotta love these classic GBU threads. Seller did something wrong, Buyer did something wrong, and neither are willing to step up and admit they did something wrong. Boris....don't ever screw with someone's sales thread. It's not your place and it's against the rules. Blademaster, don't tell people to buy your knives with the gift option....it's basically theft. Boris, don't ever pay for a knife with a gift option. You lose your buyer protection. Blademaster, if you are going to sell knives on here, make sure you have specific language in your sales thread about review period, refunds, etc. If you don't, then the understanding holds true that a deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied. If you set out the specific terms of the deal (e.g., 5 days to examine the knife, during that 5 day time they can return and get refund for any reason, after 5 days they can't, etc.), then you have every right to not go through with a refund.
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You guys both screwed up and and share resposiblity in this botched deal. This could of been handled so much simpler, instead theres like 100 emails sent back and forth.
The rule we go by is a deal is not done till both parties are happy. Obviously nothing was done to make each other happy just a bunch of talk of what should I do and what if.
So in the end boris gets a knife hes not satisfied with and bladesmaster gets a headache. At least its a lesson learned hopefully.
The rule we go by is a deal is not done till both parties are happy. Obviously nothing was done to make each other happy just a bunch of talk of what should I do and what if.
So in the end boris gets a knife hes not satisfied with and bladesmaster gets a headache. At least its a lesson learned hopefully.
Agreed. I've followed this thread for a while and I agree with LMT. If a buyer is not happy with a purchase from another member there are proper ways of handling it. Certainly not the way it was handled here. That's all I have to say.
I was thinking the same thing... I would take everything the OP says with a grain of salt.
He was informed the grind was uneven, he bought it anyways and foolishly sent payment via the gift option.
Both of these guys are shady.
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<somewhat like your attacks on Dan I suppose-Greg-please put down the stones when your living in a glass house apparently>
Greg- I usually like your style- so I kinda don't get the jab, especially in GBU and judging from your posts I thought you were also about integrity- but this was posted as BRAND NEW- MINT KNIFE-and anything but that was received. Before you lend your .02- please just look at the original sales thread-all I ask. From my advice- the buyer asked simple ?'s such as- are there any visible scratches? Has it been used or is it a safe queen? He was told it was in perfect condition-never used, which we know now as being false.
Bottom line- The buyer asked for 100.00 back for his troubles immediately- after learning from Jax advice that unless both buyer and seller are satisfied- deal is not complete. And so he then asked for a reversal- no hard feelings - guess what- he did not receive that. <THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE RE: POLICY> This is an unwritten rule that seems to only be followed by honest people with integrity only. No where is this a BF enforced policy- and for the record I don't blame BF or the mods for any of this. I actually love BF.com Esav and Jax both did really try to help my friend-regardless of my meddling-and at least at the end of the day-I know Alex is a respected person here and he has most or all of the evidence to at least make a personal determination on his own to judge what transpired. People-pls don't point fingers at me for sticking up for my friend- I will do it 10x over again- perhaps not in the same manner though.
Why is it that this buyer asked immediately to reverse the deal- only later to receive an email stating- I am not dealing with you any longer-screw off. And not 10 days later like people are implying- immediately!!! People do a lot of talking about how if both parties are not 100% satisfied- etc-etc. Well- he was not satisfied at all by receiving an uneven variant of an SFNO CS- after seeing it listed as brand new-MINT never used CS SFNO. !!! Bottom line- Boris is not even asking for the refund anymore-not asking for mod intervention or anything. This is important-<pause> like or not- this is the GBU- last time I checked- the last word was for ugly. If something ugly happens- you better believe..it should and will be listed here as a buyers beware- if not, the buyer is not doing every other person on this forum justice. For the record, I also told Boris not to send the payment as gift since it negates any protection. I will not be posting in here again and I think both parties and myself were scorned enough by this. Just ask yourself what it is that I personally had to gain or loose out of this? Nothing but the friendship that is free of charge between good ol buddies. Furthermore, If even one person in the future has second thoughts on purchasing from such a seller- then this ultimately did serve its purpose.<somewhat like your attacks on Dan I suppose-Greg-please put down the stones when your living in a glass house apparently>
Greg- I usually like your style- so I kinda don't get the jab, especially in GBU and judging from your posts I thought you were also about integrity- but this was posted as BRAND NEW- MINT KNIFE-and anything but that was received. Before you lend your .02- please just look at the original sales thread-all I ask. From my advice- the buyer asked simple ?'s such as- are there any visible scratches? Has it been used or is it a safe queen? He was told it was in perfect condition-never used, which we know now as being false.
Bottom line- The buyer asked for 100.00 back for his troubles immediately- after learning from Jax advice that unless both buyer and seller are satisfied- deal is not complete. And so he then asked for a reversal- no hard feelings - guess what- he did not receive that. <THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE RE: POLICY> This is an unwritten rule that seems to only be followed by honest people with integrity only. No where is this a BF enforced policy- and for the record I don't blame BF or the mods for any of this. I actually love BF.com Esav and Jax both did really try to help my friend-regardless of my meddling-and at least at the end of the day-I know Alex is a respected person here and he has most or all of the evidence to at least make a personal determination on his own to judge what transpired. People-pls don't point fingers at me for sticking up for my friend- I will do it 10x over again- perhaps not in the same manner though.
My attacks on Dan...
stay on topic. Go play Devils Advocate somewhere else.For goodness sakes. This is so blown out of porportion over an uneven grind. The Knife can be mint from the factory with an uneven grind. Mint is unused. TheBladeMasters description is not wrong if he means mint from the factory and the knife came with an uneven grind from the factory. Let's be logical here.
Jeez. I've never owned a knife with a perfect factory grind. Closest I've ever seen was an Emerson. My para2 came with a heel that I couldn't polish on the edge pro because someone at the factory was a little heavy handed. Had a small recurve. Sometimes I'm really paranoid about selling my things here. Reading some of the posts here I will definitely think twice about trying anymore high end knives that I may not like and want to turn around and sell.
I got a Surefire 9P in a trade that was quoted as LNIB. LNIB ment only dropped down a flight of concrete steps once.
Send it to Busse. They will fix it. 40 bucks round trip at the max. Unless you spend 50 each way on overnight air.
I got a Surefire 9P in a trade that was quoted as LNIB. LNIB ment only dropped down a flight of concrete steps once.
Send it to Busse. They will fix it. 40 bucks round trip at the max. Unless you spend 50 each way on overnight air.