Doesn't make sense to buy anything other than a cold steel?

[Grasshopperglock]

I've been trained to avoid a knife or stop it before it kills me.

To see the other side. Ways to use it to defeat myself.

Employing that in it's use.

 

[Grizzly3]

I always had to laugh at the expression on the waitress' face when she would see my wife slicing her radishes with my PM2.

 

[J. Doyle]

Knife is tool to save my life in self defense and emergency. I just hope I carry my whole life and never have to use it.

Unless someone carry a gun, the knife is about the most effective self defense weapon that is legal to carry(with restrictions).

I don't think you have a clue about US states' laws.

Most have more/tougher restrictions about carrying knives strictly for the purpose of self defense than they do guns.

Next time you interact with a police officer, mention that you're carrying a knife for self defense.....I dare you.

 

[Grasshopperglock]

I keep forgetting my world view is Texas.

I keep forgetting this is an international website.

 

[Kbrasmodeler]

Why, it's good information on how much the knife can take in different situation. Show me other tests that tell more about the knife.

JoeX tests knives for things knives aren't designed for. It's like testing a car by driving it underwater and then dropping it from a plane.
Knives aren't made to break rocks wirh the edge. His tests are also subjective, with no controls to ensure equal conditions. He's a clown who gets attention from rubes who don't know better, like electrical engineers who think they know more about mechanical engineering than mechanical engineers.

 

[AntDog]

Knives are a very poor choice for self defense. Unless you want something pokey shoved somewhere sensitive. For me, self defense is at 2:00, utility at 4:00.



Unless you’re that huge dude from game of thrones there’s always somebody bigger and badder.

They aren’t gonna care that you train with your little pocket blade, or that you’ve kept it really super deeee duper sharp just to use for self defense. They’ll laugh, close on you, then bash your head in with a crowbar and take your wallet while you bleed.

Guns for SD. What’s that saying - God created men, Colt made them equal? If you can’t carry a gun, pack pepper spray or the aforementioned cane or walking stick. You can at least whallop their ass with some reach instead of letting them get their hands on you because all you had was a 3.5” folder.

 

[shunsui]

You guys need to think outside the box more. No rules in a knife fight.

 

[scoobtay]

Seeing a revolver in a leather holster WITH access inside the trigger guard is not something I thought I’d see in 2024. Godspeed!

 

[craytab]

Why then do we always, habitually, even with maybe some deep down knowing that a knife may be the last thing you have to get you out of a jam, make sure we always take one with us? There may be more to this - for some folks - then just carrying one to cut things - boxes, strings, whatever. I conceal carry everyday, but I also like having a decent pocket knife with me. Sometimes it may be small for church or if you work in an office. Sometimes it may be built so that your hand won't ride up on the blade if you ever have to stab someone or something. No one in their right mind wants to do that, but you never know when the fickle finger of fate may point you out. You may run out of rounds, a gun may jam, you may be too up close to do much else then maybe reach for your knife. There are all kinds of reasons to have one with you. If you have ever been in a war, you may very well have a phycological attachment to having one close. Most here are beyond the West Side Story gang wars I hope and would not be foolish enough to get into a knife fight. Most here probably never trained with one. I haven't, but when I thought we might get overrun in VN and only had 5 20 round mags for the new M16 we were issued, I went and got a machete. We like and carry knives for all kinds of reasons that some may not understand or even share in.

My dude, the guy I am responding to is saying he carries a knife to never use. He'd rather use a plastic disposable or go searching for scissors. He is also claiming most people who carry a knife, do so mostly as a weapon.

These things are not the norm. Of course you could use your knife as a weapon if need be. Did you miss where I said that my knife is the last of better options?

SD as the only reason to carry a knife he'll never use? That's why his opinions aren't lining up with everyone else on the forum (not just in this thread, btw).

 

[goldie]

Cody Lundin has been using simple Moras for years he is the opposite of all these abusers and deliberate destructive testers

 

[AntDog]

Seeing a revolver in a leather holster WITH access inside the trigger guard is not something I thought I’d see in 2024. Godspeed!

WITH access inside the trigger guard, Godspeed? So somebody might be able to grab it behind the trigger and lmao

Whatchu talmbout? It’s a f@&$ing holster. It works fine, and there’s no way the trigger can be pulled when the gun’s down in it.

If you’re talking about the 1/4” of the rear of the trigger guard you can see…? And? Wasn’t broken it at the time of the photo and might not have been seated all the way in. That gap’s gone now.

 

[craytab]

Knives are a very poor choice for self defense. Unless you want something pokey shoved somewhere sensitive. For me, self defense is at 2:00, utility at 4:00.

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Unless you’re that huge dude from game of thrones there’s always somebody bigger and badder.

They aren’t gonna care that you train with your little pocket blade, or that you’ve kept it really super deeee duper sharp just to use for self defense. They’ll laugh, close on you, then bash your head in with a crowbar and take your wallet while you bleed.

Guns for SD. What’s that saying - God created men, Colt made them equal? If you can’t carry a gun, pack pepper spray or the aforementioned cane or walking stick. You can at least whallop their ass with some reach instead of letting them get their hands on you because all you had was a 3.5” folder.

Typical carry. All useful for SD and/or emergencies. Makes sense, and no cold steel.

 

[craytab]

I always had to laugh at the expression on the waitress' face when she would see my wife slicing her radishes with my PM2.

And just think, since your wife dulled the blade, the pm2 will be no good when you need to dispatch sentries later. Darn folding knives being used for convenient daily cutting tasks. Should have used the dull cutlery provided by the restaurant

 

[greater]

I have to say after seeing the poor lock quality of other various knives, a lot of them high end, the thought has crossed my mind.

They may no be the most fancy looking knives despite that they are well designed for their purposes and and a hard to beat value for the money.

Are they the end all of course not, do I often think after seeing lackluster expensive knives that I could buy a much better made Cold Steel for a lot less money, yes I do.

 

[Another Shepherd]

This. I too want to know what scenario all our hard use proponents envision where their folder lock must be able to hold hundreds of pounds resist piles of lateral pressure take repeated spine wacks.or be able to be baton ed through an engine block.

What do you do? Are you some sort of super secret squirrel agent? Airborne commado? Man in black?

Guess.

Say I've got a new 60lb protein tub. I can't get the lid off with my bare hands. I have 6 or 8 pry bars, but none of them will fit into the very tight space between the lid and the rim. But my knife will fit. Do I risk applying maybe 50lbs of lateral force against the blade? JoeX suggests that it would be safe. Turns out it is.

Some locks give when the blade is hit hard on the spine. Suppose I'm about to cut the twine off a bale of hay, and all of a sudden a 100lb lamb comes flying through the air and hits the spine with her very hard skull (this has actually happened). Will I lose a finger tip or two? JoeX doesn't say, but I've done some spine whack tests, and I think my fingers are probably safe. Turns out they are.

 

[The Zieg]

25 year knife carrier..mostly spyderco endura models, Yet never felt comfortable using them for anything other than cutting light materials.. To save my life or for hard use only my cold steel folders
Give me confidence. Liner locks I just find myself giving away the few I have and telling friends they're for light use only.

Get a Buck 110.

Zieg

 

[greater]

Sorry the Taiwan made Cold Steel folders are generally lighter and more durable than original style Buck 110s, though the Micarta or G10 Buck 110s with premium blade steel may be a good competitor.

 

[DocJD]

You're moving the goal posts a bit. This conversation wasn't about performance differences. It was about being unable to perform out of weakness.

I'll just go ahead and assume you can't provide a specific real world example either and just move along from you.

I'm trying to understand your passion for weak , inadequate , underperforming folders .

Did Lynn Thompson insult your knives ? Are your feelings hurt ? Please explain your emotional issues .

It's very common ,on this forum, for members to advocate fixed blades over folders for any serious use . Why do you suppose this is ?

I'd say , because the average folder leaves much to be desired for any "hard use" application .

But many buyers simply want a folder to carry, and either can not, or just will not, carry a fixed blade .

They desire the strongest , most reliable folder possible , for adverse eventualities.

So this leaves a POU market for the "hard use folder ". Like it or not !

If you have a problem with this , IMO it's your problem . The BS is all yours !

 

[Grizzly3]

My dude, the guy I am responding to is saying he carries a knife to never use. He'd rather use a plastic disposable or go searching for scissors. He is also claiming most people who carry a knife, do so mostly as a weapon.

These things are not the norm. Of course you could use your knife as a weapon if need be. Did you miss where I said that my knife is the last of better options?

SD as the only reason to carry a knife he'll never use? That's why his opinions aren't lining up with everyone else on the forum (not just in this thread, btw).

Sorry. With all the back and forth, I just picked yours. Sometimes you need a score card to keep track. Also, I'm a little new here and it will be a while before I get to know who's who.

 

[alan0354]

I am an urban dweller. I use my knives pretty much every day to
>open packages
>Cut flashing off plastic parts I need to use to fix something.
>Trim a wayward branch in the back yard, or trim back a branch which is in my way on my walking path.
I'm 71 and have carried and used knives since I was 6. I have NEVER used a knife for self defense.

That's BS. A walking stick is a far better self defense weapon than a knife. A stick requires little training. Effective use of a knife does.

I don't want to go much further on this. I went out with friends tonight, I asked them if they carry a knife, what is that for.......Self defense. All unison. Nobody think about cutting paper, eating.

I think this is a very small community where everyone think the same way, not align with the rest of the world.

I know gun is more effective and is less of a crime when being caught. I am very good with guns and was in competition and did gun smithing. It's NOT the effectiveness of guns, it's more about I DON'T WANT TO JUST KILL SOMEONE.

I conceal carry guns for 10+yrs and I have 20+handguns. I decided not to because I cannot answer how would I feel taking another person's life. I stopped carrying gun. My first defense is pepper spray and my crook cane which I practice stick fight for almost 3yrs. The pocket folding knife is the back up if all else fails.