Dog Knives

This thread is driving me nuts.

The fact your mind goes right to buying a good dog knife when you're the one venturing into people's yards (unannounced?) really has me scratching my head.

You, sir, belong in a nuthouse, or a prison... You are not normal and I really wish you luck in finding the perfect puppy killing knife. I hope you're arrested.
 
let me rephrase my statement.

1. You are allowed to go into my backyard. No questions asked.
2. You should see my beware of dog sign and think.
3. After seeing the sign, you should probably knock and ask if I can put the dogs away. (my current meter guy does this every visit)
4. If you go into my yard and meet my dog and end up having a bad encounter after ignoring my sign, you are at fault.
5. If you stab my dog, you had better hope that you are not there or better hope all I can see is your back while you are running away.
6. In florida, where gun laws are pretty lax, if you are in my backyard, my dog is dead, and you have a bloody knife, it is possible you could get shot if you are not making it clear you are retreating or surrendering your blade.
7. If you make any type of threatening move toward a homeowner at that point, again, it is possible you could get shot.

I am not saying I am going to come out and put you on your knees and excecute you, but if you are doing anything but running (wouldnt shoot anyone in the back as they are not a threat to my health or saftey), i may defend my property or safety. I am not going to shoot in revenge for hurting my dog, the LEO's and lawsuit will deal with that. I am just saying that anyone with a bloody knife seems pretty threatening in my backyard.
 
Shrodinger's Cat said:
btw: you don't have to retreat in Minnesota, the law says no, but there have been contradictory rulings...
Minnesota: No duty to retreat before using deadly force to prevent a felony in one's place of abode; no duty to retreat before using deadly force in self defense in one's place of abode. This isn't as clear as it appears, however. There are four cases in Minnesota where duty of retreat was upheld.
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I know what the law says, that's why I didn't quote stature like a lot of you did. but like you said, there are several examples where rulings upheld duty to retreat. I don't like my odds of not going to prison.

Different states and even different districts, and even still different judges rule differently and read the law differently. I'll keep my shot gun loaded with rubber, and my dog trained NOT to bite. Near as I figure if she barks, that's good enough. Rubber slugs or not, confronting an intruder is usually good enough and that click will put the fear of god in em

And this way, no one gets killed, and no one ends up in prison. I think some of you never came back from the war
 
i was told by an officer that here in ohio if anyone comes on your property they are tresspassing. we have beware of dogs signs up and the utility employees in my area know better than go in a yard with a dog.
 
Some of you need to relax a little bit. I don't think anyone here is going to sic there dog on a utility worker but you have to understand there are people who would especially in some of the ghetto neighborhoods I've had to work in. I personally carried a big ass wrench along with my dog mace and the one time I needed it the mace worked. Oh and some of you might want to recheck your laws because if you have a pole or pedestal in your yard the utility companies have full access to it wether you like it or not
 
Makes me wonder if these utility guys with this "tiny" bit of authority act and think like this, how would they be if they were cops? :eek:
 
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Isn't that the new "shake weight"? :p
 
Maybe its time to close this thread. The OP made a guest appearance for the first page and now is AWOL.

This thread is putting an unfortunate spin on utility workers practices and attitudes. I dont know about the OP's district but on the West coast people are notified in advance of any entry by mail and by phone weeks before any utility worker arrive. Even in places where lower income family's live, AKA "ghetto" areas; people are given every curtsy possible in regards to there property.

There is only one common instance where people are angry about utility workers and might release there dogs. That happens when someone hasnt paid there bill and is so deli quint on payment that they have there electricity shut off. In this instance a utility worker may need the sherif or PD present to pull there meter, assuming a overhead disconnect isnt possible.

The IBEW is a acronym for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers and as a international entity sets the codes of conduct for all districts. At Least on the west coast it isnt union practice to send someone over the fence into private property to pull a meter. I have never hear of any utility being non union and therefore have a hard time swallowing this "fence jumping dog encounters" story.
 
dan-g said:
Maybe its time to close this thread. The OP made a guest appearance for the first page and now is AWOL.

This thread is putting an unfortunate spin on utility workers practices and attitudes. I dont know about the OP's district but on the West coast people are notified in advance of any entry by mail and by phone weeks before any utility worker arrive. Even in places where lower income family's live, AKA "ghetto" areas; people are given every curtsy possible in regards to there property.

There is only one common instance where people are angry about utility workers and might release there dogs. That happens when someone hasnt paid there bill and is so deli quint on payment that they have there electricity shut off. In this instance a utility worker may need the sherif or PD present to pull there meter, assuming a overhead disconnect isnt possible.

The IBEW is a acronym for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers and as a international entity sets the codes of conduct for all districts. At Least on the west coast it isnt union practice to send someone over the fence into private property to pull a meter. I have never hear of any utility being non union and therefore have a hard time swallowing this "fence jumping dog encounters" story.
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I'm going to have to agree.. It seems that a lot of people like to hijack threads on this board. Pushing their own Agenda and posting about something sometimes not even related to what the OP is posting.
 
RandomAyes said:
If I were you I'd make or buy a thick leather forearm protector. That would buy you all kinds of time to figure out your next move, i.e. whether to use lethal force or just hose its eyes with pepper spray from 3 inches away.
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really? really? how about a buckler and a morning star? forsooth!
 
On Friday, the vicious boxer three doors down busted through the gate and tried attacking...I fended the thing off with my DGG SnG.

Then I went and bought the spray (I don't want to knife fight dogs if at all possible).

But if I'm attacked by anything, be it dog or human, I will defend myself, and if something has to die, it ain't gonna be me.
 
Wow! I have been on this forum for a long time and can not believe how irrational people in this thread have gotten. I think people need to realize we are talking about a very extreme but very rare situation. I have found myself in clients back yards, where they have given me permission to be, looking into the eyes of a very angry and mad dog. The homeowner never would mention that they had a dog and there would be no signs, sometimes no fence. I love my dog, but I am not killing another human being because of something they did to him. Think it through logically, it is not worth it. Be a good and responsible pet owner and you should never have to worry about it.

To the OP, don't worry! I know you don't want a knife just to kill some dogs with. If you do need a knife for cats, baby seals, penguins, beavers or the ever dangerous bunny shoot me a PM and I will hook you up!
 
EricV said:
Not thinking that you own a dog.
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I do actually, in fact it's pretty ironic you should say that because my dog is actually a very non-violent rough collie that That I really think Would only attack if it was pressed. He is very good with new people,children and even cats and other animals. I don't think he would just straight maul somebody unless he really had to.
 
In other words, he is nothing like the Boxer that Stabman had bust through a gate and try to attack him. To put it even more simply he wouldn't have to get stabbed by an innocent person defending themselves..so in conclusion I wouldn't have to do anything to that person.
 
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