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Dual Survival
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Great post and I appreciate your input. I found it interesting after I read the interview that Cody said that the TV people never asked for a resume. I wonder if they asked Dave and then they fired him when he was not as "reported". I wonder if Cody had anything to do with this? Cody L is pretty darned arrogant when it comes to survivial topics and he holds himself to be an authority. That's okay, because I think he is an authority on the geneal topic. You mentioned what people mistake for arrogance or "ego" is actually passion. I don't know him and only know what I saw on the TV show. Cody puts down the survival instructors and basically wants to see their resume. He does this from a position of strength having two books, the TV show, and is an instructor in his survival training. The show has back peddled a bit with Matt paired with Joe. Joe is the killer and the producers want a killer which is why they tote his military experience. How are you going to develop the resume as a young man that Cody wants? You're not and that demonstrates his personal arrogance. Cody has a right to be proud, but there are other people in the business too.
The show was about personalities and how they blend together in a common goal. But as Cody indicated, they really didn't need to hunt and I agree for a three day tour. Taking chances hunting larger game was for TV. The bee hive was for TV. The black powder thing was for TV. Walking through an ice cave was for TV. Scaling cliffs was for TV. The raft in KY was for TV. All they had to probably do is hike up the hill to a road and walk out. But the rafts in South America were probably not for TV.
The show is scripted because it has to be othewise it would be boring to the majority of the potential audience. The show is about making money with a topic of interest to many folks that head to the woods.
Cody did not do the dangerous stuff, certainly not willingly. You can tell that when you watch the show. I suspect he is not particularly "physical" and from his point of view, taking unnecessary chances is not part of survival. Bear set the standard on the taking chances department and he had the skills to take those chances. Cody is not about taking chances and he keeps mentioning "health and safety". Guess that's why the show had the disclaimer at the beginning about health and safety especially when Cody mentioned the show was developed following the Bear in Alabama motel/hotel incident.
I think the interview shows Cody as being a bit sour grapes. But I don't blame him for feeling this way considering the show dumped him. Few feel particularly good about being fired. The show made him famous.
These comments wander around a bit. But Cody's interview was much about "survival shows" and TV, realism, and the purpose of the show.
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Say it's not so... LOL! It must be Karma in action.
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20141001/OFFDUTY02/310010083/
"Teti has faced far more controversy, however, including allegations that he misrepresents himself as a “combat veteran” despite never serving in combat while in the military."
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20141001/OFFDUTY02/310010083/
"Teti has faced far more controversy, however, including allegations that he misrepresents himself as a “combat veteran” despite never serving in combat while in the military."
The thing is that IF he actually worked in shadow ops, it will NEVER be made public. Therefore his claims cannot be validated, as the government will not disclose such activity, releasing them from any liability.
It's one thing to lie about military service (a dishonor to all who have and will serve), but maybe he should have toned down the Special Ops talk, or better yet, left it unsaid all together...
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Don't yea think the SFA would have taken that into consideration? They must be more familiar with these issues than message board speculation? I got nothing against the guy other than he was or rather still is boring to watch. This maybe the end of Duel Survival.
Discovery Channel’s “Dual Survival” reality star Joseph Teti, a former Army and Marine Corps special operator, has been disavowed by the Special Forces Association and stripped of his membership with the group.
“He is no longer a member and cannot rejoin,” retired Army Col. Jack Tobin, president of the association, told Military Times.
The association’s National Board made the decision after some two dozen current and former Special Forces soldiers came forward with allegations of misconduct against Teti. In the group’s 50-year history, only 10 members have gotten the boot.
Oh, definitely! I think him spouting off about his alleged adventures embarrassed someone up the chain of command.
And as far as him being boring, the general viewing public demands the "drama" he bought to the show.
I don't subscribe to Joe's or Gryll's methods (even though I was trained that way), but having nothing against either personally.
I'm sure the producers will find a replacement, after all, TV is big $$...
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So they trained you to drink your own piss? LOL! Sorry but anytime Bear Gryll is brought up the drinking of piss must be discussed! :barf:
This Bear video is timeless.
[video=youtube;XLkyM_lQLxs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLkyM_lQLxs[/video]
Our instructors gave specific info on the dangers of drinking urine (yours or anyone else's).
Pretty much taboo for anyone but the sensationalists...and I certainly don't have my own TV show...yet.
*Stupid OLD White Guy Getting Eaten By Predators In The Wild*
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'Shadow Ops", isn't that a video game?
Which in my opinion is as close as that tool ever got to "Shadow Ops". If he wanted to be in combat he wouldn't have left the Guard after 9/11 he would have went active or went over with his unit. (the use of the word "Unit" in no way was meant to have anything to do with "The Unit" which I'm sure he was alluding to in his quotes in his interviews)
I said it before, (page 7/seven) and I'll say it again, teti is a fake, phony, and liar.
What surprises me is that anyone who watched him on the show didn't know that, then they shouldn't go by themselves to buy a car, or a home, or anything that costs more than a few bucks.
Just want to add, teti if you read this, please reply, dig the hole deeper.
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How would Cody know one way or the other unless Teti told him? Cody always laughs and it is a sarcastic laugh.
Yea, even with the embelished resume or the Mick Strider attitude, none of which brings anything new or interesting to the table imo for survival or wilderness living skills.
My guess is, this is kind of the thing to do though right now if you want to make money. Nothing is more disgraceful than wearing our flag on your arm under the pretense of representing operators everywhere, only to watch him aim a loded weapon towards people in a friendly country. What if a bird triggered his so called "OODA Loop"?
Wonder if Liberty ammo will continue to support him...
My guess is, this is kind of the thing to do though right now if you want to make money. Nothing is more disgraceful than wearing our flag on your arm under the pretense of representing operators everywhere, only to watch him aim a loded weapon towards people in a friendly country. What if a bird triggered his so called "OODA Loop"?
Wonder if Liberty ammo will continue to support him...
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Despite the personalities, and or their backgrounds, I catch the show when I can. I try to see what the show can teach me and I now disregard the rest. If I pick up one more scrap of insight or knowledge to supplement my book learning or personal experience, then the viewing was worthwhile. Yes, it is hard to look past the background noise and external drama at times. But I choose to focus beyond that. I have to make my own decision if the information conveyed is realistic\practical, and has uncommon sense for my own needs\interests. It's just TV anyway.
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I figured I'd go ahead and quote that before you edit it a fourth time and took out the bold, italic, underlined, portion that to some may be a bit offensive to some or all the x Military that are here.
That's not all the Military do by a long shot. teti isn't a good representation of the SF or Military community, that's why he got black listed.
I figured I'd go ahead and quote that before you edit it a fourth time and took out the bold, italic, underlined, portion that to some may be a bit offensive to some or all the x Military that are here.
That's not all the Military do by a long shot. teti isn't a good representation of the SF or Military community, that's why he got black listed.
Well it obviously wasn't intention to offend anyone including some of my family and best friends, and those I don't know have served. There isn't a constitutional right to going through life unoffended by others beliefs. My satirical opinion, and I don't expect everyone to agree with the sillyness in which I posted that statement in the first place. Guess it could have used one of these
I obviously don't think this is a place for politics either. there are a lot of contractors in our military now, maybe worth discussion, but not here I don't think. I think this is going to be an intersting thread as things develop, I'd hate to see it closed.Worth reading on the subject
http://seanlinnane.blogspot.com/2014/05/confusion-in-temple.html
EOTD,
Kinda scary to think about working for a production company that's had some fatalities while filming, yet when you go to the page from Eyeworks USA's post about being acquired by Warner Bros, its all in Lorem Ipsum. Yikes, no wonder Cody left.
http://eyeworksusa.com/warner-bros-television-group-completes-acquisition-of-the-eyeworks-group/
EDITS-grammar, added link to acquisition page.
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Well it obviously wasn't intention to offend anyone including some of my family and best friends, and those I don't know have served. There isn't a constitutional right to going through life unoffended by others beliefs. My satirical opinion, and I don't expect everyone to agree with the sillyness in which I posted that statement in the first place. Guess it could have used one of these
Worth reading on the subject
http://seanlinnane.blogspot.com/2014/05/confusion-in-temple.html
EOTD,
Kinda scary to think about working for a production company that's had some fatalities while filming, yet when you go to the page from Eyeworks USA's post about being acquired by Warner Bros, its all in Lorem Ipsum. Yikes, no wonder Cody left.
http://eyeworksusa.com/warner-bros-television-group-completes-acquisition-of-the-eyeworks-group/
EDITS-grammar, added link to acquisition page.
Politics doesn't have anything to do with what I posted or what I'm about to post.
I called something out that in fact offended me and probably some others on here, odds are I'll do it again, maybe to something you post, who knows.
Intent doesn't come across in type, but if you had said that in person I would have said something then too. There's also nothing written that says I or someone else can't say something if you say something, even satirically
that offends. I don't buy the "silliness in which I posted" line either, you just didn't expect anyone to say anything.The links are to something written by Mike Hawk, another SF guy that had more than a few issues with some thing's he said and did.
Those guys aren't that forgiving to people in their own community. Outsiders are one thing but people that have been through the same training they feel are to be above that sort of thing.
Back on track, Cody seemed to know his stuff, and if canterburry wouldn't have lied on the res, he would still be there.
Heresthedeal, I wrote something, then edited, before you "called me out", but you had to say something. I'm sorry I personally offended you and your SF service for our country. I'm not sorry about what I said. Debating it, is only going turn to poilitics, and you obviously don't care to hear other's beliefs. This isn't the forum for it anyway. A simple PM would do, but no, you're looking to instigate on the internet. Not sure if you're intent was to rile up current/former service member on here to "school" me or say that I'm wrong somehow, or if you really just don't read the news. Not my problem either way.
I could go into the $139 billion dollars spent in Iraq on contractors alone, I mean hey we got Teti out of it! Seems like you agree?
I feel it's relevant to discuss how the military industrial movement has infact influenced many industries, from knives, weapons, ammo, and how it's somehow getting into our TVs in survival form. I just think it's funny that real SF vets won't touch the discovery channel with a ten foot plole, those that did, passed because of it. The rush to make money on entertaing guys like us doesn't seem worth it, to me at least. Not worth good soldiers lives. I just don' see what Joe has ever brought from a survival standpoint on the show. Maybe he didn't take the classes?
I could go into the $139 billion dollars spent in Iraq on contractors alone, I mean hey we got Teti out of it! Seems like you agree?
I feel it's relevant to discuss how the military industrial movement has infact influenced many industries, from knives, weapons, ammo, and how it's somehow getting into our TVs in survival form. I just think it's funny that real SF vets won't touch the discovery channel with a ten foot plole, those that did, passed because of it. The rush to make money on entertaing guys like us doesn't seem worth it, to me at least. Not worth good soldiers lives. I just don' see what Joe has ever brought from a survival standpoint on the show. Maybe he didn't take the classes?
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Never said I was SF, never even alluded to it.
Get your time lines straight, you edited it three times before I posted but it was after I posted what I did that you edited out what I highlighted.
You are the one bringing politics into it. This isn't a debate, or an argument, I said something about something in your post that I didn't think was right.
Obviously, in your opinion, I wasn't suppose to do that.
I don't mind hearing others beliefs, that's what this forums all about.
Just don't be surprised when someone says something when you post what you believe.
I'm not instigating anything, I'm not editing after I post something, I just didn't like what you said and said so.
Re edit all you want, I'm done with this and you.
To everyone else enjoy the rest of the thread, I still think Cody should have his own show, maybe with the new guy that's in it now.
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Wouldn't it be funny if the hippies weren't real as well. Matt and Cody really dress in suits everyday working for the "military industrial complex".
It's a joke so all yea Cody or Matt supporters don't give me any guff. Yea, I am talking to YOU!
It's a joke so all yea Cody or Matt supporters don't give me any guff. Yea, I am talking to YOU!