Educate me on the Puukko.

@KJ: Heikkinen has done plenty of variations on the Tommi style over the years. You can just ask the features you prefer.

As for comunications I guess our Finn freinds can just pick up the phone. Not many shops, beside Lamnia, deal directly with smiths.
 
It does make sense and really sounds like a shortcut.

A couple of Tommi makers that are worth knowing are Pentti Kaartinen
http://www.tommipuukko.com/

and Mauri Heikkinen.
http://mauriheikkinen.fi/

Heikkinen doesn't speak english and international comunications are dealt by his daughter. As far as I know he's the most awarded Tommi maker alive. Having very small numbers of production his prices are rather low, given his quality, saying 160 € for a bark handle...

Do you prefer blades from some Tommi maker over the others, or would you say that all of them (atleast in Hyrynsalmi) have similar quality silver steel blades?

Reason I ask is because I really liked the quality of the blade in that Tommi made by Kainuun Puukko, but considering their large volumes I could probably get better overall workmanship/attention to detail from smaller makers.
 
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chown, i think Frederick has already answered your question in the box you have in your post. "the most awarded" must point to the 'best' smith.
However Frederick might have more to add. I hope so because i learn something every time he posts.
 
I think these awards go for overall workmanship. It's most aesthetic and carefully finished puukkos that get awarded in expositions, not necessarily ones that cut best. Anyway, it never hurts to ask. Especially as Frederick cleary knows a thing or two about these.
 
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I don't have personal experience, yet, with works of Kaartinen and Heikkinen, but I may have in future. I remember that there was a Finn member on the forum that has a Kaartinen Tommi and, if I recall correctly, he once wrote how he had to use it as harpoon to drag himself out of the water from a lake which ice didn't supported his weight.

Anyway in my previous post I was referring to the strangeness of how Kainuun asks less for a fully polished blade over an unpolished forged one. This made me think that basic blades might see a lot of grinding and little forging, somehow being cheaper/faster to craft. This is what I considered a shortcut.
Still I can guarantee that a rhombic blade takes 20-25 minutes of forging with hand held hammer to be done extremely close to the final shape and just requiring a very minor sanding. I once took the timing when visiting a smith.

I personally favour blacksmiths producing in smaller numbers and willing to discuss their working methods, possibly avoiding excessive self praising. I've grown extremely picky on knives in the last few years and I like to talk and discuss rather deeply about what I'm going to pay for. I've seen I can't do this, in the depth level I'd like, with companies.

As for silversteel I have experience with the K510 forged by Pasi Hurttila of Ivalo: I have seven puukkos in this steel made by him over the last five years. He does the heat treatment on the fire of the forge, following the steel colours and has done it for 14 years. The final edge hardness is around 60 HRC.

I managed to get some bad microchips and rolling on one of my puukkos only once, when I debarked and carved a red spruce stick. It was quite dark and later I realised I was carving into and against the grain.
It was all my fault and it took me just something like 15 minutes to restore the edge to hair popping sharpness going through DMT #600, #1200, #8000 and stropping with both coarse and polishing compound.


In my experience silversteel taken to 60 HRC has a very nice balance in edge holding and resilience. So far I actually have to find another carbon steel keeping an edge longer. Also, if taken beyond its limits, at this hardness it is more likely to roll instead of chip.

I like well also the 100Cr6 (52100) taken to 62 HRC as treated by Martti Malinen of Niinisaari. It holds the edge slightly less than K510 at 60 HRC and has basically the same toughness and reactions. Martti's blades tend to be more tapered and carving oriented than Pasi's ones.

Lately I've come also to really like 80CrV2 taken to 62 HRC, as treated by Pasi. I have it on my favourite carving knife and it really impressed me: it has the same edge holding of 100Cr6 at same hardness, but sports an insane edge stability, resilience and ease of sharpening usually common on spring steels.

Sorry for the long post :)
 
Does anyone here have a tommi from Mauno Keränen?

They look very well made in all the photos I've seen. Just wondering how they'd stack up against the rest.
 
Puukko by Kustaa Lammi 1901-2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsXmyKhIoAI



The handle reads "Helsiniki," possibly for the 1952 Olympics held there.

This illustration of another puukko my the same maker is a better illustration of the markings than I can capture:


Here is another puukko by the same maker in the same style:
 
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Mikko Inkeroinen – Tommi Puukko



Photo by Mikko

I’ve sold knives and had to say no to more than a few to get this one. Ordered it only 5 months ago and just got word today that she is ready to come home. My first Tommi. My first Puukko in fact. I’m pretty excited about this one. I appreciate the education received here on the forum before ordering one of these.
 
It does make sense and really sounds like a shortcut.

A couple of Tommi makers that are worth knowing are Pentti Kaartinen
http://www.tommipuukko.com/

and Mauri Heikkinen.
http://mauriheikkinen.fi/

Heikkinen doesn't speak english and international comunications are dealt by his daughter. As far as I know he's the most awarded Tommi maker alive. Having very small numbers of production his prices are rather low, given his quality, saying 160 € for a bark handle...

Firstly, i hate "i heard somewhere this guys sucks" leading posts with zero to back it up....

Secondly, exactly how is NOT forging a blade to where it leaves hammer marks some sort of defect or shortcut? You guys all insist on hammer marks on primary edge bevel, too?

It takes talent to forge a bevel period, and more talent to be able to call when it has hammer marks when finished, and when it will not.....the grinder can fix a lot of defects, but it cannot add hammer marks to a finished bevel.

It might indeed be higher priced simply for more hammering on bevel to thin it out more and still leave marks when ground....and might cost several blades to get that...
 
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I never talked about hammer marks on the bevels or that Kainuun Puukkos sucks.
I talked about rough forging paired with a lot of grinding, which time probably well exceedes that of forging.

Having to use a drop down menu to customise a knife and having to choose "handforged" over simply "steel" doesn't sound good to me, given that the knife description already talks about hand forging.
 
That is a real beauty, Brett, congrats. Pasi Hurttilla is forging me a damascus puukko that I am looking forward to.
 
Brett, the attention to detail is astounding!! I hope to see more of this beauty and hear how it performs. Thanks for sharing.
 
Good call on the Inkeroinen.

Speaking of performances, here is a review I made some time ago about four different puukkos.
https://nordiskaknivar.wordpress.com/2015/11/21/maasepan-puukko-review-by-federico-buldrini/

good stuff Federico. i recently got one of Martti's birchhill knives (thanks to your recommendation earlier in this thread....and your review on nordiska....thanks). exquisite.

brought it with me on an Ohio hunting trip. it helped process and dress a deer. the others in my party kept asking me, "hey, you got your knife on you?" and stating, "that's a sharp knife."

:thumbup:
 
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