Elusive Schrades

[waynorth]

Here's a neat contract knife by Schrade for Abercrombie and Fitch, the famous outfitter;
If I was to design a camp knife, I might use the same blades!! (no such luck!)

 

[JM2]

Here's another rarity: I've seen one or two of these knives pop up on the 'Bay over the years in quite used condition. Since I'd never seen them in a catalog I assumed that they were cobbled together TL-29 style knives with a screwdriver delete and pen blade added from another knife. Then I stumbled across this box of brand new knives! Turns out that it was a legit pattern, the 2041. Since it's a four number Schrade Walden knife it would have to be from very shortly after the switchover from Schrade Cut Co as all the knives were converted to a three number system under Schrade Walden within around a four year period after the purchase. I don't know where this one fit in but since it doesn't show in the catalogs I'm thinking it may have been discontinued quite soon after the 1947 transfer. It's derived from the Schrade Cut Co 2041SD, which was the 3 3/4" TL-29 style knife, same style, with a screwdriver (SD) instead of the pen blade, nail notch in the spear, and cocobolo handles that appeared in the 1938 Supplement and the 1940 catalog. In the same catalog was the 2043 which was the bone handled jack version with a long pull spear and pen blade.
This Schrade Walden 2041 seems to be a hybrid of the two with the 2043's pen blade and all other parts from the 2041SD. There's no record at all of a Schrade Walden 2043 so I think that one was discontinued immediately and this knife took it's place for a short time. It's very cool to have the whole package here, otherwise I'd have never known the knife existed! By the way the old Schrade Cut Co/very early Schrade Walden four number system shows the first number as the number of blades (2), second and third are the pattern number (04), and last number is the handle material, 3 being cocobolo. Luckily one of these knives had a ripped and taped up cellophane wrapper so I didn't have to feel bad about removing it

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Eric

Wow that’s amazing. Did all schrade knives come packaged like that to dealers?

 

[waynorth]

Wow that’s amazing. Did all schrade knives come packaged like that to dealers?

I've collected a few dealer boxes, and most knives seem to have been shipped that way - by the half dozen!! (note: these boxes are all empty!!)

 

[JM2]

I've collected a few dealer boxes, and most knives seem to have been shipped that way - by the half dozen!! (note: these boxes are all empty!!) View attachment 1857453View attachment 1857454

Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know that. But I’m not surprised. Many of the things back then were better all the way round, from the quality of the item, to the box it came in.

 

[Markesharp]

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Hey Charlie do you have a Humason & Beckley knife? I've never seen or heard of that company.
Thanks Mark

 

[Jack Black]

I've collected a few dealer boxes, and most knives seem to have been shipped that way - by the half dozen!! (note: these boxes are all empty!!) View attachment 1857453View attachment 1857454

Nice collection Charlie

 

[waynorth]

Hey Charlie do you have a Humason & Beckley knife? I've never seen or heard of that company.
Thanks Mark

I have had an H&B; and an Argyle!! I'm embarrassed to admit, I don't know if I still do!!??
I will search!!

 

[waynorth]

Nice collection Charlie

Thanks, Jack!!

 

[JM2]

When did schrade stop doing the boxes like that?

 

[waynorth]

When did schrade stop doing the boxes like that?

Good question - maybe when they changed their name, and started doing the old timers??

 

[waynorth]

Hey Charlie do you have a Humason & Beckley knife? I've never seen or heard of that company.
Thanks Mark

Nice little Humason&Beckley Jack, 2 5/8", marked;
H & B
mfg.co
NEWBRITAIN
CONN.

 

[Primble]

Schrades:
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[Primble]

Schrade Cut. Co. No. C2153EO

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[waynorth]

While stumbling around in the murky corners of my archives, I happened to revisit this unusual French Ivory Florists knife!! Some proof that celluloid has no directional grain except visually, these handles have been installed with the lines "crosswise"!!
Say It With Flowers!!
Shiny Object!!! - But somehow different??!!

 

[Luger1952]

I posted in the “Old Knives” thread, a few months ago, a group of Schrade Cut stag handled folders. Well here are three Walden era stag folders that I just very recently acquired. From the top a 972, 884 and a 894. Three very different stag styles and thinly cut just the way I like it. These are in pristine condition or what B. Levine would classify as Excellent unsharpened. These Walden era stag handled knives are scarce and very hard to find! Just ask Charlie or Eric Hey Charlie does that 884 look familiar?

 

[JM2]

I posted in the “Old Knives” thread, a few months ago, a group of Schrade Cut stag handled folders. Well here are three Walden era stag folders that I just very recently acquired. From the top a 972, 884 and a 894. Three very different stag styles and thinly cut just the way I like it. These are in pristine condition or what B. Levine would classify as Excellent unsharpened. These Walden era stag handled knives are scarce and very hard to find! Just ask Charlie or Eric Hey Charlie does that 884 look familiar?
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I should be able to “like” it at least once per knife pictured. That’s awesome, thank you for sharing.

 

[fishin1635]

While stumbling around in the murky corners of my archives, I happened to revisit this unusual French Ivory Florists knife!! Some proof that celluloid has no directional grain except visually, these handles have been installed with the lines "crosswise"!!
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Shiny Object!!! - But somehow different??!!

First time I’ve seen the grains going that direction on faux ivory… very nice knife.

I posted in the “Old Knives” thread, a few months ago, a group of Schrade Cut stag handled folders. Well here are three Walden era stag folders that I just very recently acquired. From the top a 972, 884 and a 894. Three very different stag styles and thinly cut just the way I like it. These are in pristine condition or what B. Levine would classify as Excellent unsharpened. These Walden era stag handled knives are scarce and very hard to find! Just ask Charlie or Eric Hey Charlie does that 884 look familiar?
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Awesome trio, if I had to pick a favorite it would be hard… all 3 are cool.

 

[wlfryjr]

Great knives and info as always Charlie .

Love those stags Lloyd, I wish Eric would show us that shadow stag farmers jack or just allow me to trade him out of it.

Beauties Primble, I believe I've seen one of those before.

Can someone guide me to where this is now? I've looked in Schrades R Us and it seems removed?

 

[danno50]

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/ULSTER/index.htm

That plate is in the middle of the second from the bottom row on page 4 of the above link.

 

[wlfryjr]

Thanks Dan, is there a date on these?