Elusive Schrades

Campbellclanman said:
Wonderful Purchase Charlie, I agree with the comments on the Museum Grade. I have never seen that Pick nor the stampings before- Chas. Lanbein is this a Retail firm that Schrade contracted the knives out too?
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The knife was described in the sale as a Typesetters knife. I imagine the pick was used to help space the letters / words or used to aid in lifting type from its setting, though I am not sure.
 
Thanks You Isk- I appreciate that. I do iunderstand about the Pick- hence the name pick and not Awl. The stampings and firm are what I was wondering about- as I have not come across the name before.
 
Here's some old Schrade Cut Co 836 variations, note the subtle differences in all three. Defintiely one of my favorite whittler patterns of all time!!!

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Thanks for the link, Russell!

Great hat trick of whittlers, Nick!!

Thanks Duncan, and ISK!
 
Thanks Jamie and Charlie!

Does anyone know how many different variations of this pattern Schrade made? Thanks.
 
On page 106 of the reprint of the old catalog, it shows
8364 3/8B, large saber clip, small clip and pen, black cell
SC8364 3/8B, same as above except coping blade substituted for pen blade
S8363 3/8, large saber clip, coping, and pen, bone stag
S8364 3/8B, same as above except black cell

As you know, their other whittlers were different sizes than this pattern.
 
tongueriver said:
On page 106 of the reprint of the old catalog, it shows
8364 3/8B, large saber clip, small clip and pen, black cell
SC8364 3/8B, same as above except coping blade substituted for pen blade
S8363 3/8, large saber clip, coping, and pen, bone stag
S8364 3/8B, same as above except black cell

As you know, their other whittlers were different sizes than this pattern.
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Thanks for the info Tongueriver! The two with bone covers also have the secondary blades switched, one has pen in front and the other has coping in front. The bone in the second pic on the right also has a groove in the top of the cover for easier pull.
 
Beautiful trio of Whittlers! Like that ebony on the bottom, the secondary blade is actually shaped just like a mini clip.
 
waynorth said:
Thanks to a heads up from our friend Thawk, I purchased this wonderful knife on the Interweb!
It is based on Schrade Cut Co's wonderful Balloon Whittler pattern. Here you see it in as-found condition, with just a couple drops of oil, and a wipe with a cotton cloth with a smidgeon of oil in it. I will not polish or clean it, but will preserve the factory finish. There are a couple of fly-specks on it, and some blade rub. It is very tightly fitted.

Here you see a notch in the brass "wedge" which allows the blade to be slightly longer, and fall in tight!

Look how close the blades fall in together!!

The two "standard" blades are stamped. The special blade is not.

A reverse etch on the Main.

The "pick" is used to assist the typesetter!!

I can't believe the condition!! The perfect shape for a museum-grade collection!
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WOW Charlie! Just WOW! That is SWEET! :cool:
So you believe this one is related to Schrades CutCo?
 
MerryMadMonk said:
Gevonovich, Hal, Jamie and Duncan, thanks! Duncan, I was fortunate enough to know him. He taught me to hunt and fish and much more. His old knives/guns are indeed treasures to me.
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Oh man...that just sounds great Al, I yearned for that as a child, and my girls are 22 and 18, both single and I keep saying to them that the day when they say they are going to have a baby - I will rejoice so much - I really want to be a great Poppa to them - give them something I never had, unfortunately My only Granddad was so mean to me that it bordered on a sickness, so you my friend are so so lucky.
Hopefully one day I can take my wee grandchild out to exp[lore the bush, and take them on great adventures.I get a lot out of seeing these absolute treasures of Grandparents knives passed down! - Ha... guess I will have a pretty lucky little freind who is going to strike it lucky when ol' Pops pops it lol.

thawk said:
Duncan, that 804 split spring whittler pattern is 3 7/8". And yours?
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Hal kind Sir - how are you by the way? - long time no chat! Hal please accept my apologies for not answering any sooner, I missed your question, the Schrade I showed has the model 890 stamped Pile side of the main, and the 3 lined stapming of Schrade, Walden, N.Y U.S.A .
The knife measures 3 1/2 inches closed.
 
Ballenxj said:
WOW Charlie! Just WOW! That is SWEET! :cool:
So you believe this one is related to Schrades CutCo?
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Levine says the company was Chas. Langbein until 1910. It's a little ambiguous about whether the Langbein sons carried on the name, or changed it. If 1910, then Schrade Cut Co for sure.
A lot of Langbein knives were made in the 1800s.
Goins says the company became Wm. Langbein & Bros. in 1910 when Poppa Charlie died that year, and carried on until 1940 (WWII). Coincides, again, with Schrade Cut Co, and certainly carries the DNA, IMO.
 
waynorth said:
Levine says the company was Chas. Langbein until 1910. It's a little ambiguous about whether the Langbein sons carried on the name, or changed it. If 1910, then Schrade Cut Co for sure.
A lot of Langbein knives were made in the 1800s.
Goins says the company became Wm. Langbein & Bros. in 1910 when Poppa Charlie died that year, and carried on until 1940 (WWII). Coincides, again, with Schrade Cut Co, and certainly carries the DNA, IMO.
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Hmm, interesting indeed. Good Detective work on your part. :)
 
blademan 13 said:
Here is a Schrade Cut. Co. Whittler but can find no pattern# on it? 3 1/2" closed.

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Are you sure your knife is not 3 9/16 inches instead of 3 1/2 inches? If so, it is the same pattern discussed slightly earlier here, but with different covers.
 
waynorth said:
Thanks to a heads up from our friend Thawk, I purchased this wonderful knife on the Interweb!
It is based on Schrade Cut Co's wonderful Balloon Whittler pattern. Here you see it in as-found condition, with just a couple drops of oil, and a wipe with a cotton cloth with a smidgeon of oil in it. I will not polish or clean it, but will preserve the factory finish. There are a couple of fly-specks on it, and some blade rub. It is very tightly fitted.
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Look how close the blades fall in together!!
I can't believe the condition!! The perfect shape for a museum-grade collection!
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67nick said:
Here's some old Schrade Cut Co 836 variations, note the subtle differences in all three. Defintiely one of my favorite whittler patterns of all time!!!


Schrade_Jigged_836_Whittlers_2.jpg
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Super wonderful examples of some fine old Schrades. :thumbup::)
 
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