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Because I am a polarizing person. I will not brook Bullshit. I stand my ground. I never really cared about what anybody thought about me. I'll go down fighting by your side if someone wrongs you and I will take criticism when I am at fault but, I will not tolerate anyone who wrongly criticizes me, friend or foe. As a major business owner, I am probably the only one that any of you has ever known that will not only publicly tell it like it is, but will do so in person and more than a few times, not just with words, regardless of the PR. That's why some like me and some think I'm a real asshole.
And I'm Irish.
Against my own better judgement I'm going to speak up on this matter. I have never held or seen an Emerson knife in person, therefore my opinion has nothing to do with the knives,but with Mr Emerson himself. He sounds like a well educated, Intelligent, business oriented man and is obviously successful at what he does. I for one can appreciate a no B.S. personality or attitude and these type of people leave nothing to the imagination nor do they leave you wondering what they are thinking. This part I respect and understand. The part I don't understand is the self-inflated, self-crediting, self- aggrandizing explanations that Mr. Emerson gives. Maybe It's just me, but I can't see this helping him or making his business look better. I think it gets off the subject and absorbs the point. It's not a court case Mr. Emerson It's a knife or two. Nobody is standing before a Judge waiting to be sentenced. Wouldn't it be better and easier to just say mistakes happen, whether it was us or one of our dealers we will take responsibility of it and make it right. Just my opinion and for better or worse I gave it.
and was called a whiny little kid in a public forum.
He wouldn't have been if he didn't drag this to a public forum, and whine, in the first place. This should have been taken care of directly with Emerson.....
He wouldn't have been if he didn't drag this to a public forum, and whine, in the first place. This should have been taken care of directly with Emerson.....
Maybe you missed the part about him trying to do just that to no avail.
It was taken directly to emerson, he did not post his findings until a long time after. This forum is here for many purposes and this is 1 of them, positive and negative feedback. Imo whether emersons at fault or its the op calling him a whiny kid is a poor way to handle this situation. Seems Mr. Emerson could have handled this situation a little bit better.
Dont get me wrong, i do like emersons, i have my 2 emersons and have a mini commander coming in the mail.
So Thank you Mr.Emerson for this knife idea and getting it put in company's knives cause it's so useful it should be put in all pocket folders that could utilize it effectively.
That's the response of the people I've asked to read this thread too. Additionally, Mr. Emerson came across as overly defensive, like how dare anyone question me?
I have been a longtime lover of Emerson knives, and asked what I asked because it was logical. And I said I wanted the explanation to be favorable to EKI.
Right now I must admit I see EKI in a very different light - this was a BS way to treat a customer that felt he was dealt with poorly yet maintained he wanted to be a happy EKI customer. He asked for a phone call and was called a whiny little kid in a public forum. Any of my employees at my business would be immediately fired for such interaction.
Mr. MOhunter92 I have reread all your post in your first thread about Emerson woes, update.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1170600-Emerson-woes-update
But after reading Post Number One, I am scratching my head why after one problem, with the FIRST EMERSON A SUPER 7 your bought, you continued to buy EMI Knives when your first problem was not resolved to you satisfaction.
Emerson woes, update.
Couple guys wanted an update as to my horrific emerson situation. I'll start from the beginning. I bought a super 7, used it about a month very lightly and it had a creaky lock with some blade play. Figured it was just a lemon no biggie I'll get it repaired.
Bought a desert roadhouse after that, it came with the blade way off center and the blade scraped the side upon opening. After much tweaking I got it perfect. About a week later, developed very bad vertical blade play and it actually failed on me a couple times. I was pretty pissed. 2/2 on crappy Emerson's.
But I loved the designs and simplicity, along with its pure American components. I bought a cqc 10 right when the roadhouse developed it's blade play. The knife came to me squeaking like a mouse upon opening and right off the bat, lock rock.
At this point I am livid mad, I call emerson telling them the situation. Got an I don't really care attitude from the lady I talked to and I sent the super 7 and 10 in for repair, I needed one knife on me at least for use so I held onto the roadhouse until I got the other two back.
The knives were delivered to emerson march 17th. I called and talked to a guy named Ernesto and told him my woes. He was okay, beat around the bush but said he'd cover the shipping back to me on the knives. I thought that's fine, reasonable. I'm 3/3 on crappy made Emerson's that's the least you could do right.
I called back a couple times wondering why they were taking forever and it turned out their tech was on vacation for a week so nothing got done. The lady I talked to was very rude, and uninformative Well fast forward to Friday, April 4th. The tech calls me, she was very nice and went over what she did with the knives and said she's shipping them that day.
Well I got them today, the super 7 was perfect. Exactly how I expected a 240 dollar knife to be. The 10 upon first glance was good too, until I removed the pocket clip to put one of the skull ones on. As I removed the screws, one of them was stripped. I removed the others and it was very hard to get them out.
Once I tried installing the skull clip, I had an extra emerson screw laying around. I replaced the stripped one and as I turned the screw it just kept going. Same with another. The holes were not correctly tapped and they stripped the screws and as I tried removing them again to see the issue, a screw breaks off in the handle.
Well I'm steaming mad at this point, I specifically asked emerson to double check these knives and make sure they were exactly the way an emerson was supposed to be, they said they would. 3/3 knives I bought all junk, and they couldn't even get it right after hearing my story and sending two brand new knives in for repair.
I just can't believe how I was over all treated and given the runaround besides Ernesto to a slight degree and the tech, then sent back a knife still not right. Well I called them demanding they do SOMETHING to make this right I just flat out said I want my cqc 10 to be completely replaced besides the blade. I wanted a whole new knife besides the blade on the 10 because this is just frankly bullshit. Ernesto told me to send the 10 and roadhouse in and he will see what they can do.
Well before I got these knives back I bought one more emerson, a mini 15. It was good out the box but it is slightly doing what the 10 and roadhouse did. The lock bar is slightly bending causing a bit of vertical blade play. I am waiting to see how it breaks in, not jumping the gun yet. But I'm so pissed off with this company right now I will never buy another unless they do SOMETHING to show that they have screwed me royally, and that they are willing to do something to make this better.
At this point I think I deserve more than just free shipping. I am about $900+ in the hole on Emerson's that are all frankly pieces of shit. Sorry this is kinda all over the place, just letting everyone know how badly emerson has screwed me. I love the knives, just wish they all came the way I would expect them to come for a 250 dollar damn folder. They came to me with the quality of 20 dollar Chinese folders.
These were all brand new knives, the oldest was one month old, the others were literally days old. I hope Mr. Emerson sees this and hopefully feels compelled to do something for me because this is just insane. I'm sending the 10 back AGAIN and the roadhouse and I'll let everyone know what happens.
Also I see a couple of RED FLAGS in the post above. I underlined what I call RED FLAGS. Like where did you get extra Emerson Screw?
I had an extra emerson screw laying around
My last question is for you Mr. MOhunter92. You continue to vent your anger towards Mr. Emerson in your posts since you were told by Mr. Emerson your knives are in route back to you.
You still seem to be headhunting Mr. Emersons head without even waiting to open the box from EMI & looking at what Mr. Emerson personally supervised what he and had his staff did to bring your knives back up to factory specification.
BTW in Mr. Emerson's post he explains in great detail what he found wrong with your knives, what he & his staff did to correct your problems, how he did it, and told you some of how he uses special tool & jigs to maintain factory specifications, quality standards, & consistency in his products.
I am not passing judgment on you, you actions, or you being upset. But in all honestly before you vent any more venom toward EMI & Mr. Emerson I feel it would be fair to wait for the box from EMI to arrive at your location. Than open the box, inspect your knives, and than report your finding. After you see what has been done to correct your problems.
JMHO