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All of which makes me wonder if the entire charade is spam, with talonner a Kizlyar employee.

We do not need any specific references to other forums, inviting cross-forum flaming, or specific products, bordering on advertising, which on Bladeforums requires higher membership levels.
 
This was starting to look like Jerry Springer. I agree with Esav that the link to the company's website ruined the mood: it is not about lunacy anymore, just business!
 
Just a note to those unfamiliar with Bladeforums policy: we prefer to let these threads play themselves out. Moving them around or locking or deleting them is not likely.
 
Nothing's ruined. Talonner has been almost incoherent. You responded with a business-like answer. That's what we're here for, to let both sides be heard, and see which one makes sense.
 
For the record we did offer him full money refund, but we do not wish to replace his items as we do not want to have anything to do with him anymore.

Regards
Zobair Bary

I would advise to simply replace his order(you did say it was your mistake, didn't you). I think that's what he wants, not a refund. And then tell him that will be the last you want to do with him.

That should end it, and it doesn't really sound like he wants to deal with you guys again anyway, so that should be a non issue.


edit- on second thought, I do remember the OP saying he could get the same knives elsewhere, and I think he said for less $.

So there is no reason why he shouldn't take a full refund. I forgot the OP's name, but why don't you just take the refund if you can get the same knives elsewhere for less $ ?
 
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I saw the thread on the other Forum, that was hilarious, with the moderator pulling a Borat and everything. That guy needs his brain replaced, not his knife!
 
Guys, one more time. We do not want discussions about what goes on on other forums. This is serious and for good reason. Leave them to their own ways and they leave us to ours.
 
First, I would like to state my complete agreement with Esav's points that we don't need cross forum discussion. It can become corrosive and destructive and serves no useful purpose whatsoever.

Second, this has been a most entertaining and rather strange thread. We get a guy who obviously has a few loose kangaroos in the top paddock telling us about his bizarre adventures of the mind and this is rebutted by a rather more business like, (although with rather more than a little advertising), response.

I look forward to a reply from our strange friend.

The OP's choice of user name is rather interesting, a French word meaning "to follow hot on someone's heels, to hotly pursue; to hound, gnaw at; to kick, spur on."

Bladeforums, a never ending source of entertainment. :)
 
If Zobair didn't at least leap off the balcony and run to his car, I'm a bit let down as it was a very dashing way to make an exit. It just seemed like something a guy named Zobair would do!
 
If Zobair didn't at least leap off the balcony and run to his car, I'm a bit let down as it was a very dashing way to make an exit. It just seemed like something a guy named Zobair would do!

You may have a point there, it definitely had a certain air of adventure about it, didn't it.
 
If Zobair didn't at least leap off the balcony and run to his car, I'm a bit let down as it was a very dashing way to make an exit. It just seemed like something a guy named Zobair would do!

Oh man, I can't quit laughing:D
Maybe its just me, but thats the funniest thing I've read in a while!!!
 
I would advise to simply replace his order(you did say it was your mistake, didn't you). I think that's what he wants, not a refund. And then tell him that will be the last you want to do with him.

That should end it, and it doesn't really sound like he wants to deal with you guys again anyway, so that should be a non issue.


edit- on second thought, I do remember the OP saying he could get the same knives elsewhere, and I think he said for less $.

So there is no reason why he shouldn't take a full refund. I forgot the OP's name, but why don't you just take the refund if you can get the same knives elsewhere for less $ ?

G'day Ken

Mate we did replace his knife, that is the whole reason why I had to go to his place to replace the wrong knife, but the guy called us back a day or two later claiming that his replacement item was defaced and all the rest of it. This is why we would like to end this, hence a full refund was offered to him.
 
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All of which makes me wonder if the entire charade is spam, with talonner a Kizlyar employee.

And what a magnificent play it is/was.

In a single thread the Mantis Knives PR machine has been leap-frogged, plucked, and cooked on an open spit.

Friggin masterful! :thumbup:

If it wasn't for Esav, the dog, and those meddlin kids in the Scooby Doo Mystery Machine van,
Kizlyar Australia may have gotten away with it too.

Let us see if the Mantis militia really has the nads for a decent throw down!



:p
 
G'day Ken

Mate we did replace his knife, that is the whole reason why I had to go to his place to replace the wrong knife, but the guy called us back a day or two later claiming that his replacement item was defaced and all the rest of it. This is why we would like to end this, hence a full refund was offered to him.

As far us this poor, unhappy and apparently abused and robbed customer is concerned the only thing our company did wrong was to be nice to him

Did you deface the knife infront of him, enter his house etc. or did that all just happen in the OPs head ?
 
Did you deface the knife infront of him, enter his house etc. or did that all just happen in the OPs head ?

The new item was unwrapped in front of him to insure there were no mistakes this time. He confirmed that all was good and I took the old wrong knife back, shook his hand and walked to my car using the stairs! Nothing was damaged or defaced on purpose and no threats were made by anyone. I run a very well respected knife company, not a brothel.
 
The new item was unwrapped in front of him to insure there were no mistakes this time. He confirmed that all was good and I took the old wrong knife back, shook his hand and walked to my car using the stairs! Nothing was damaged or defaced on purpose and no threats were made by anyone. I run a very well respected knife company, not a brothel.

That is exactly how I believe it actually happened. The story told by the OP is a very entertaining piece of fiction.
 
Dear members of the “Knifeforums”

Allow me to start by introducing myself. My name is Zobair Bary and I am the managing director of Kizlyar Australia. True I was not borne in Australia, but neither are half the Australian population of just under 21 million. And no I am not an Arab or Iranian, not that there is anything wrong with that. On the other hand the individual writing all this trash about us did look quite middle eastern himself.

Anyhow, I have been running the company in Australia for over two years now and our main role is the importation, distribution, promotion and sales of Kizlyar Industrial Enterprises products in Australia and New Zealand. Our products are currently being stocked and retailed by over 20 major Hunting stores and military suppliers within Australia and we also have a sales representative in each state through out the country. In addition to this we sell directly to the Australian Military, Customs and Police. Finally, we have an online store through which we sell directly to the public, which is of great benefit to those living in remote areas.

I was made aware of this individuals trash talking a couple of days ago by a knivesforum member, but the responsible moderators there managed to get rid of him quite quickly and effectively. Let me assure you that in our company we go to great lengths to insure that our customer satisfaction is not compromised. We have even gone to the level of extending the original 10year manufacturers warranty to a lifetime warranty, for which we pay from our own budget. As the result, the customer feedback we have gotten from Australia and world wide has been nothing but positive and praise. Therefore, if you are interested in owning our knives or doing business with us, then you can deal with confidence.

As far as stock is concerned, we do not carry the entire range of knives produced by Kizlyar, however the range that we do carry covers, pretty much any type of blade for almost every single purpose that one can think of. Furthermore, by the end of tis year we are hoping to obtain the customs clearance for the importation of certain dagger models. As far as stock quantity goes, we always have our advertised range in stock. However, it must noted that our knives are production handmade and I sincerely think that we are doing quite well supplying the demand considering the fact that certain other handmade knife companies have up to five year waiting lists.

As far us this poor, unhappy and apparently abused and robbed customer is concerned the only thing our company did wrong was to be nice to him and replace the original wrong knife that was sent to him in person. I admit this was my single great mistake and it will never be repeated. As far as the rest of his claims go I leave the judgment to you good people of the blade forums. His rampage started after we decided not reply to one of his very disturbing emails that we received after the exchange. And it has been going on ever since. For the record we did offer him full money refund, but we do not wish to replace his items as we do not want to have anything to do with him anymore.

Regards
Zobair Bary

P.S. the picture he has is from my personal facebook folder and the guns are unloded and uncocked as i was in the middle of cleaning them after a hunt. I am sure we all have family pictures that we would like others not to see.

You claim to sell directly to the Australian customs, military and police. I say you are a liar and you have never made any official sales with them nor provided them with an invoice. I can prove this but it will publicly incriminate you.

You gave the wrong sheath with the wrong knife. You also gave defaced goods. You never offered a refund you lying scumbag.

Give me what I paid for in factory new condition, THE CORRECT SHEATHS, compensation and a public apology.

You never offered a refund. I don't want a refund. I want what I paid for and I want them in factory new condition you piece of shit. I also want a public apology. And compensation.

Also you are not from Kizlyar, you are a distributor of their products.

The new item was unwrapped in front of him to insure there were no mistakes this time. He confirmed that all was good and I took the old wrong knife back, shook his hand and walked to my car using the stairs! Nothing was damaged or defaced on purpose and no threats were made by anyone. I run a very well respected knife company, not a brothel.

You defaced it and gave me the wrong sheath you lying bastard. You don't run a knife company, you are a bloody distributor. Scumbag.

I would advise to simply replace his order(you did say it was your mistake, didn't you). I think that's what he wants, not a refund. And then tell him that will be the last you want to do with him.

That should end it, and it doesn't really sound like he wants to deal with you guys again anyway, so that should be a non issue.


edit- on second thought, I do remember the OP saying he could get the same knives elsewhere, and I think he said for less $.

So there is no reason why he shouldn't take a full refund. I forgot the OP's name, but why don't you just take the refund if you can get the same knives elsewhere for less $ ?

Don't forget I want compensation and a public apology.

I saw the thread on the other Forum, that was hilarious, with the moderator pulling a Borat and everything. That guy needs his brain replaced, not his knife!

That moderator, who claimed to work for Kizlyar, now claims to no longer work for them.

Mate we did replace his knife, that is the whole reason why I had to go to his place to replace the wrong knife, but the guy called us back a day or two later claiming that his replacement item was defaced and all the rest of it. This is why we would like to end this, hence a full refund was offered to him.

You gave me damaged goods and the wrong sheath you bastard.

You never offered me a refund. You are a lying crook.

Zobair Bary, I can have your whole company and stock seized through legal means. I can also have you charged with criminal offences unrelated to my incident. I have proof of you breaking various laws in Australia. I don't want that. I want what I paid for, in factory condition, compensation, and a public apology. I also want the proper warranty cards.
 
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