Feedback Needed: Dark Ops Stratofighter (Actual Experience Only)

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I'm not guilty of any crime. They can't charge me with recieving a stolen design. If ER wants to persue a case against DO thats fine with me. In fact it doesn't concern me. I never even knew you could buy these ER knifes when I ordered the DO. Now I've seen them and know the story about Frank Miller and how DO knives came to be. I wouldn't buy another DO knife but my point is they aren't junk.(maybe I'll try a ET Pitbull, I like different stuff) Since it bothers some people on here so much about the DO knives you should contact ER and try to get them to file a suit. Then maybe you would feel like justice has been served.
 
you were not responding to the original poster. You were responding to me- as you quoted me (attempted to, in any case).

Actually, in fact I responded to the original poster here first, giving him exactly what he asked for originally, see this response Rat?

GunHand;

A couple of reviews here on the Stratofighter:

http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/...read.php?t=168

Anything after that first post was to others comments like yourself in this thread. You on the other hand had no factual basis to answer the OP's question as I did, and so it was you who started the "dance" here.

Thats quite simple to understand, hope you are mature enough to accept those facts as reality, lest I have to reiterate them again here for you.

Brownie
 
brownie0486 said:
you were not responding to the original poster. You were responding to me- as you quoted me (attempted to, in any case).

Actually, in fact I responded to the original poster here first, giving him exactly what he asked for originally, see this response Rat?

GunHand;

A couple of reviews here on the Stratofighter:

http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/...read.php?t=168

Anything after that first post was to others comments like yourself in this thread. You on the other hand had no factual basis to answer the OP's question as I did, and so it was you who started the "dance" here.

Thats quite simple to understand, hope you are mature enough to accept those facts as reality, lest I have to reiterate them again here for you.

Brownie
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Are you dense? You "quoted" me, then proceeded to avoid the topic completely, and babble on repeating your endorsement (paid?) of Dork Ops.

You did not address my statement, you used it as a springboard to shill for Dork Ops.

The only "dance" is you pussyfooting around the subject of the stolen designs, stolen by your buddy Frank Miller, and heartily endorsed by you.

It is quite simple to understand. When you quote somebody, it is SOP to respond to what they have been saying. Who cares what the original poster said, or what you then said in response to him? We are talking here and now, and I have made my statements clear.

Refusal to address this subject is evidence that you are no better than Frank Miller the thief.
 
You did not address my statement, you used it as a springboard to shill for Dork Ops.

Actually I did here:

The advertising has nothing to do with the strengths of the knife. I didn't buy the ER's or the DOK's for their advertising campaigns and propagandizing literature. I bought both brands due to their size, strengths in materials and design and just plain how rugged these types of folders are. The most important reason would likely be that they were lockbacks. That lock design is known for strength and longevity over hard use.

It apparently didn't leave you much room, so you came back to others posts with the same trolling non relevant opinions which still did not address the original posters request.:D

We are talking here and now, and I have made my statements clear.

As have I, the difference is your statements are opinions and the information I've provided has been factual and answered the OP's original question.

Refusal to address this subject is evidence that you are no better than Frank Miller the thief.

See above, it's been addressed, though apparently not to your satisfaction. Thats an issue you will have to deal with on a personal level with yourself.:yawn:

Brownie
 
Have you guys ever noticed that when threads are started about certain knife manufacturers, that they will inevitably degrade into individual members flaming each other, and get totally away from the initial gist of the thread?
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Have you guys ever noticed that when threads are started about certain knife manufacturers, that they will inevitably degrade into individual members flaming each other, and get totally away from the initial gist of the thread?
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Naaah - never happen! :D
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Have you guys ever noticed that when threads are started about certain knife manufacturers, that they will inevitably degrade into individual members flaming each other, and get totally away from the initial gist of the thread?
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Truer words have never been spoken! :D
 
Hi All:

Knife is finally here...

Initial impressions are:
- Lockup is excellent
- Well Finished
- BIG Folder
- Handle w/ quartz is great and fits my hands really good
- Appears to be well made...

It's starting to grow on me...

Here are the pix:
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With Strider AR:
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brownie0486 said:
Enjoy it for what it is GunHand.

Brownie
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Thanks Brownie! In my opinion, upon initial inspection of the knife, it is well worth the $200+ that I have paid. I own a bunch of high end knives especially Striders, Benchmades and CRKs and I think DO knives are not bad at all...:thumbup:
 
brownie0486 said:
You did not address my statement, you used it as a springboard to shill for Dork Ops.

Actually I did here:

The advertising has nothing to do with the strengths of the knife. I didn't buy the ER's or the DOK's for their advertising campaigns and propagandizing literature. I bought both brands due to their size, strengths in materials and design and just plain how rugged these types of folders are. The most important reason would likely be that they were lockbacks. That lock design is known for strength and longevity over hard use.

It apparently didn't leave you much room, so you came back to others posts with the same trolling non relevant opinions which still did not address the original posters request.:D

We are talking here and now, and I have made my statements clear.

As have I, the difference is your statements are opinions and the information I've provided has been factual and answered the OP's original question.

Refusal to address this subject is evidence that you are no better than Frank Miller the thief.

See above, it's been addressed, though apparently not to your satisfaction. Thats an issue you will have to deal with on a personal level with yourself.:yawn:

Brownie
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You still have not addressed the subject of stolen designs and the fact that you support a thief & shill for his products. I see what you posted above, and it has nothing to do with that subject. This leads me to the conclusion that you are either:

A. Retarded

B. Deliberately skirting the issue.

I am leaning towards B, but I won't discount "A" just yet. :yawn:
 
Thanks for all the pics GunHand. Definatly not my cup of tea, and I do not like the company one bit, but I do like well taken photos of knives. :thumbup: Enjoy!
 
I'd be willing to bet that Frank Miller checked with lawyers about any legal issues before he ever invested in the manufacture of these Dark Ops knives. So if some people want to hold him to a higher standard than the law does that is their right. The DO design while very similar has been changed enough that he is able to pull it off. I would figure the cross bolt safety has been around so long it wasn't protected by any patent. A lot of stuff (firearms, knives, Cars, Toasters, lawnmowers....) have very similar design. Why is it so upsetting that Frank Miller should do the same as all the rest of the world does. If he's within his legal rights either buy his product if you want it or if it bothers you that his knives are close in design to Extreme Ratio go elsewhere. He has really done nothing that's not common practice. Just some seem to feel a Knife(higher end) should be held to higher moral standards than other goods. And that's their right.
 
well, ya can argue this or argue that about things and its all still just opinions.

imho the dorkops knives are not the equal of ER knives, i have had several ERs and have played around with a DO, and TO ME the ER seems to have better F&F, and i like the handle better, the ERs handles have never seemed slippery to me on the contrary they seem to work better than the dorkops quartz impregnated handles which can be decontaminated from blood or other viscous fluids lol.

if you guys like 'em great, there will be at least a few more available for you since i wouldnt have one, and no its not that they are made by someone who starts a knife company and doesnt have the "snap" to design his own stuff, nor is it the ridiculous mall ninja advertising, to me its the simple fact that the ones i have seen/handled did not display very good F&F, certainly not the F&F ya would expect for a +$200 knife.

if yours are ok, great, but imho getting a good one/getting a bad one is a crap shoot, and homie dont play that.

has anyone ever dealt with dorkops customer service yet??
 
Its not if I like the knife or not. I own one i've had it awhile. Its ok nothing I'm filled with passion about. Its not as bad as some people try to paint it just because of the way it came about. I feel that what is being said about the knife is directed to a person in law enforcement or the military not me. I don't believe many in Iraq would be offended by the adds saying the people's blood that's trying to kill them would possilbly be on the handles. I don't see where calling the company Dorkops is very mature. What's going on here is the knives are being lied about as far as what they really are, just because people feel they are a rip off design and are touted as a backup weapon for people in harms way. At least that's the way I see it. I doubt very much anyone would say they was poorly made if not for those reasons.
 
jill jackson said:
I feel that what is being said about the knife is directed to a person in law enforcement or the military not me. I don't believe many in Iraq would be offended by the adds saying the people's blood that's trying to kill them would possilbly be on the handles.
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Just something from an observer who isn't trying to offend anyone, but I think that the issue some may have with their advertising is that it's aimed more at the "mall ninja" market. From what I gather, an actual soldier would (AFAIK) have a fixed blade, and even so, would hardly ever be using it for killing someone, rather, it would be more for utility use.

Thus, some view their advertising the knife for use in "full-on, Spec-Ops combat" as they put it, is false.

Just my $0.02 (AUD)
 
dpimpc said:
Thanks for all the pics GunHand. Definatly not my cup of tea, and I do not like the company one bit, but I do like well taken photos of knives. :thumbup: Enjoy!
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You are much welcome. Glad you have enjoyed the pics.:thumbup:
 
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