First knife suggestion

Where in Europe are you? There are some pretty strict knife laws over there
 
-Austria, i've checked and it seems you can carry what you want, check on Wikipedia
-i think i'm fallen in love with this:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/AirsoftGunsNow/Hunting Knives/8.jpg
I think it's because it remembers me of Rambo's knife :D
Can you suggest me something like that, fixed blade, good for edc?
I think those kind of knives are the scariest looking, do you agree or do u find some other type scarier? I'm curious
Thx
 
Therom said:
If you are looking for a folder, an OTF or a wave opening will be my take
But the best would be a small fixed blade is even better
I like the Bradford guardian 3 at the moment and would like to get one soon
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Honestly I find my Guardian 3 abit short for SD use. The problem is I feel like my forefinger is very close to the edge if I wanted to thrust. Also the handle is too small to use in reverse grip edge in which is a grip I prefer.
 
Victorian Squid said:
See jc57 Above!

If your only purpose is for self defense, then my first recommendation would be to go to a source to learn how to use a knife, and about the multitude of options. You'll need to learn how not to get killed or seriously injured. I'd make the exact same recommendations for anybody who wants to buy a firearm primarily for self defense. There are knives made specifically for this purpose, and there are many styles of using one depending on the type.

For instance, there is a Karambit knife designed for a specific (scary) style of martial arts. There is something like the Emerson folders, which has a blade design called the wave, designed to catch and stop the other person's knife. The designer himself has demonstrated its use. Consider carefully if this is truly your primary purpose, or if it's (as it is for me) an absolute last resort. You might get in less trouble with a tactical pen than you would with a knife. Check youtube for a variety of suggestions and demonstrations. I'm sure there's some self-defense experts here that can give you far better details and suggestions.
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You do know that although the wave feature on a knife was originally designed as a blade catcher its use as that is totally impractical.

The practical use of the wave feature is as a catch for opening the knife as it is withdrawn from the pocket.
 
glo15 said:
-Austria, i've checked and it seems you can carry what you want, check on Wikipedia
-i think i'm fallen in love with this:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/AirsoftGunsNow/Hunting Knives/8.jpg
I think it's because it remembers me of Rambo's knife :D
Can you suggest me something like that, fixed blade, good for edc?
I think those kind of knives are the scariest looking, do you agree or do u find some other type scarier? I'm curious
Thx
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you DONT want that knife. stay away from mtech.
 
glo15 said:
-Austria, i've checked and it seems you can carry what you want, check on Wikipedia
-i think i'm fallen in love with this:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/AirsoftGunsNow/Hunting Knives/8.jpg
I think it's because it remembers me of Rambo's knife :D
Can you suggest me something like that, fixed blade, good for edc?
I think those kind of knives are the scariest looking, do you agree or do u find some other type scarier? I'm curious
Thx
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_legislation#Austria
Wikipidia is not the definitive source for current laws or even facts.

Austria[edit]
In accordance with the Austrian Arms Act of 1996 (Waffengesetz 1996) it is illegal to buy, import, possess or carry weapons that are disguised as another object or as an object of common use (sword canes, e.g., or knives disguised as ink pens, brush handles or belt buckles).[2] For ordinary knives, there are no restrictions or prohibitions based on blade length or opening or locking mechanism.[3]

The Austrian Arms act defines weapons as "objects that by their very nature are intended to reduce or eliminate the defensive ability of a person through direct impact".[3]Consequently, certain knives are considered "weapons" in accordance with this definition. Except for firearms, however, which are heavily regulated, such "weapons", including automatic opening lock-blade knives (switchblades), OTF automatic knives, balisongs, and gravity knives[4] are implicitly permitted under the Arms Act, and thus may be bought, possessed and carried by anyone over the age of 18[5] who has not been expressively banned from owning any weapon (Waffenverbot) by the civilian authorities.[6]
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here's another thread on the topic http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/austria-knife-laws.1052116/
 
glo15 said:
-Austria, i've checked and it seems you can carry what you want, check on Wikipedia
-i think i'm fallen in love with this:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/AirsoftGunsNow/Hunting Knives/8.jpg
I think it's because it remembers me of Rambo's knife :D
Can you suggest me something like that, fixed blade, good for edc?
I think those kind of knives are the scariest looking, do you agree or do u find some other type scarier? I'm curious
Thx
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First of all you should stay away from that garbage knife. That knife is too big to carry around with you everywhere anyway. Secondly you should never count on a knife to "scare" away your opponent. you will get unlucky and run into the person who is not scared and will use your knife on you.

Also a knife is not at all less lethal. Knives are extremely lethal and one cut major artery can mean death in no time. A pistol is a WAY better weapon for self defense.

That being said I think the knife you want is the Benchmade SOCP dagger. It has a ring which makes it harder for someone to take it out of your hand. It is small enough and easily concealable. It is a dagger mainly designed for quick stabs.

You should absolutely get some training on self defense with a knife. If you can't find or attend a class theb watch training videos. Just make sure the instructor knows what he's talking about.
 
Lapedog said:
First of all you should stay away from that garbage knife. That knife is too big to carry around with you everywhere anyway. Secondly you should never count on a knife to "scare" away your opponent. you will get unlucky and run into the person who is not scared and will use your knife on you.

Also a knife is not at all less lethal. Knives are extremely lethal and one cut major artery can mean death in no time. A pistol is a WAY better weapon for self defense.

That being said I think the knife you want is the Benchmade SOCP dagger. It has a ring which makes it harder for someone to take it out of your hand. It is small enough and easily concealable. It is a dagger mainly designed for quick stabs.

You should absolutely get some training on self defense with a knife. If you can't find or attend a class theb watch training videos. Just make sure the instructor knows what he's talking about.
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one guy was getting beat up by some sketchy individuals. they saw he had a knife on him and they used his knife to stab him. or so thats summed up from what i heard on the forums.
 
That happens all the time. Even with guns. A person draws a weapon in hopes it will scare the other guy away but is not prepaed to use it. The other guy quickly grabs the weapon out of the first guy's unready hands and turns it on him.

The guy who drew the weapon wasn't in the mindset to fight for real.

Original Poster you should read this website for information that will protect you way more than carrying a knife you aren't ready to use!

https://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/
 
Thanks, you all said some useful things, i will keep them in mind and think about them
 
That socp dagger that few of u have suggested seems very uncomfortable and low quality...maybe something with a bit of a curvature would be better
 
For self defense I would go with a cold steel steel tiger. It's a fixed blade karambit knife. If I was ever going to fight someone and I could pick one knife it would either be a machete or a karambit. Your wanting to conceal so karambit all the way and the cold steel steel tiger is great for the price. However, if money is not an object then I would look at the the emerson karambits.
 
Will echo and append what a couple of other posters have already said. Without training, a knife is a poor first or even second line of self defense. For many reasons, including the following:
If you bring a knife to a gun fight you lose. They kill you before you even get close enough to be a threat.
You have to get close to an assailant to employ a knife. Always risky. Worse if the person has a reach advantage.
You have to be quicker than the assailant or surprise them to employ the knife. Always risky.
If there are more of them than you, your odds are dropping fast.

Bottom line, a knife should be far down your list of options. That list should be, in order:
Run and/or yell or scream
Give them what they want
Do a first attack at a vital area to allow you to get away. Examples being knee or kick to the groin (they will almost certainly be looking for it) a strike to the throat, strike the eyes, a kick to the front or side of the knee (preferably one that is straight and locked) or a punch, head butt or elbow to the face, chin, nose or solar plexus. All are intended to surprise, stun and allow you to escape. You get free, you run. You don't try to continue to wail on them.

If you have ruled those options out and now you're on "knife":
The "self defense" aspect of a knife for an untrained person resides in the intimidation factor. If your assailant is unarmed, he may turn tail and run. Good for you. BUT, if he pulls a gun... very bad for you. And you've escalated the situation. The real nitty gritty is what happens if you brandish the knife and the guy is unarmed, but not intimidated at all and says, ok, let's dance.... Now you know you are facing someone who is either nuts, or a experienced fighter. Or thinks he is. Now you have to run, which, if that was possible, should have been your first choice from the very beginning. Believe me when I tell you, there are a lot more people trained in fighting against a knife than fighting with it. And even if the assailant isn't trained, if he is quicker, you will almost certainly lose. The one thing in any martial art that you cannot defend against, is speed.

If none of this has any affect on your decision and you still feel the need to carry a knife for self defense, I would personally either recommend a larger knife for intimidation as suggested by others, or a small flipper or auto knife that you can hold in your fist, un-opened (like a roll of coins) as a support to add power to your punches. Think brass knuckles without the knuckles. Then if the situation escalates from a fist fight, you are already in close, possibly already in the assailants grasp, you can deploy the blade by surprise. Take a slash on their arm, or a stab into a thigh and get out of there. If that doesn't work, the guy is probably on Angel Dust and it is going to get real ugly.

My 2 cents worth.
 
glo15 said:
That socp dagger that few of u have suggested seems very uncomfortable and low quality...maybe something with a bit of a curvature would be better
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Maybe a Katana would be more suitable for your needs?

The Benchmade SOCP dagger is not uncomfortable or low quality.

Maybe you could be more specific about what you are allowed to carry in Austria?

Here is a website that has some articles about good defensive knives as carried by under cover police officers. You should read it.

http://www.donrearic.com/edgedtools.html
 
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Are you able to wear a big knife like that openly in Austria? If so that's awesome I might move to Austria.

That would make a big impact on what is or isn't practical.
 
And then this one time, I heard a thing happened. Very useful advice that, yes sarcasm.
Choice A, buy a swiss army knife, and then spend the rest on joining a martial arts class.
Choice B, buy whatever the heck you want, the biggest, meanest knife you can find, carry it for a week, find out that its uncomfortable, impractical, gets comments, weighs you down, and makes you look like you are compensating for something... then leave it in a drawer at home and forget about it.
Choice C, buy any of the small 50-150 fixed blades designed with defense in mind, and a spyderco delica, carry them, learn about what you actually use knives for, and enjoy life.

Buying a big mean tactical fighting knife as your first one is like owning a super-car as your first car. Sure is cool, up until you have to actually live with it, and then you wish you'd have spent far less on a little Citroen that doesn't cost much to insure, run or maintain, and that fits a few friends in for a weekend. Making any sense?
 
glo15 said:
I don't want to carry a gun, a knife should be less lethal and maybe enough for just scaring somebody to not fight me, but a gun it's really too much for me
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I'm a little surprised no one has called you out for this statement. It sounds like you want to carry a blade as deterrent. It doesn't work that way.

We should be spending less time suggesting model numbers and more time discussing flaws in your attitude that make carrying any kind of lethal force weapon a potential problem.

I'm glad you're here seeking knowledge from those who know far more than me, but there are basic truths relating to the use of lethal force and your proposed carry philosophy that need to be addressed to protect you and the citizenry around you.

A knife is every bit as lethal as a firearm and (usually) a lot messier. A knife should never be drawn as a deterrent; it's far more likely in such a case that it'll be taken and used against you or someone with you.

Remember, an assailant already has a edge against you; they've already shown a willingness toward violence to gain their ends. Brandishing a knife at that point will usually do little. You're better off picking up a big stick.

Please educate yourself on the dynamics of aggression before educating yourself on Wharcliff vs. Karambit.
 
;) Sorry "glo15" but I smell a joke thread ! Apologies and welcome , if I'm wrong . Fairly convincing until the Mtech " remembers me of Rambo" post .:rolleyes:
 
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