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FOG,S Passaround thread
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GOT AROUND TO TESTING THEM IN THE KITCHEN AS WELL AS OUT BACK
MY FAVORITE WAS THIS ONE--SHARP AND VERY COMFORTABLE
SON LIKED THIS ONE BEST
If these were mine I would thin out the edges to make them cut better--
I did not sharpen them--before or after using them
Packed up and will be shipped to the next tester on Tuesday
Thanks again for allowing me in this passaround
Dr.Bill
MY FAVORITE WAS THIS ONE--SHARP AND VERY COMFORTABLE
SON LIKED THIS ONE BEST
If these were mine I would thin out the edges to make them cut better--
I did not sharpen them--before or after using them
Packed up and will be shipped to the next tester on Tuesday
Thanks again for allowing me in this passaround
Dr.Bill
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Did you play with the Friction folder enough to give an opinion on it ? The blade hasn,t been heat treated or sharpened i know, but im curious if you think it feels safe to use with such a short tang end. To me it doe,s and being short it allows it to be flipped open using one hand.It took me a lil practice to learn how. I lay the side of my forefinger on the spine where the brass stop pin is and firmly roll it forward.
How about the blades on the file knives, do you feel they held there edge well ? I,m curious to see how well the annealing recipe i used is working.
The small knife your son liked.I thought that to be as small as it is that it really
locked into the hand well.What did you/he think ?
The Nessie you mailed for me what did you think of the handle comfort? Same question on the spearpoint.
The Wharnie that you liked. I love the way the wood shimmers and the dark and light spot,s change places when moved in the light.The wood is presentation grade waterfall Bubinga.
William the suggestion to thin the blades is noted.
C.Bryant is who the knives are on there way to now. Keep an eye out for them.
The Nessmuk shaped knife with the Bocote handle WON,T be coming to you. As a gentlemen sent a request to buy it and another knife(that wasn,t in the passaround) The same day i mailed them to William.William was kind enough to mail it to him.Thanks William !
William THANKS for participating !
P.S. I sharpened the knives with sandpaper on a mouse pad. I don,t own a strop or stones.If you guys want to put a *real* sharpening on them feel free.
How about the blades on the file knives, do you feel they held there edge well ? I,m curious to see how well the annealing recipe i used is working.
The small knife your son liked.I thought that to be as small as it is that it really
locked into the hand well.What did you/he think ?
The Nessie you mailed for me what did you think of the handle comfort? Same question on the spearpoint.
The Wharnie that you liked. I love the way the wood shimmers and the dark and light spot,s change places when moved in the light.The wood is presentation grade waterfall Bubinga.
William the suggestion to thin the blades is noted.
C.Bryant is who the knives are on there way to now. Keep an eye out for them.
The Nessmuk shaped knife with the Bocote handle WON,T be coming to you. As a gentlemen sent a request to buy it and another knife(that wasn,t in the passaround) The same day i mailed them to William.William was kind enough to mail it to him.Thanks William !
William THANKS for participating !
P.S. I sharpened the knives with sandpaper on a mouse pad. I don,t own a strop or stones.If you guys want to put a *real* sharpening on them feel free.
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I think they would have done much better if someone had sharpened them better than I could(I suck at convex edges compared to standard profiles)
My son stated he was able to control the small knife very well--and liked it the best.
As far as edge retention--they need to be sharpened up better to test that(IMHO)
Handle comfort was GREAT in the one I liked the best as well as the Nessmuk you had me ship(I did not test it-as it was sold)
Looking forward to what the next man says
My son stated he was able to control the small knife very well--and liked it the best.
As far as edge retention--they need to be sharpened up better to test that(IMHO)
Handle comfort was GREAT in the one I liked the best as well as the Nessmuk you had me ship(I did not test it-as it was sold)
Looking forward to what the next man says
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LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPORT AND PHOTOS BRO:thumbup:
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I will have some, though due to time restraints on my part (house hunting and a ton of other stuff) it won't be quite as picture loaded as my JK post. I have been using them in the kitchen a lot and will have time tomorrow (well today, but I'm just now going to bed) before I send them on to beat them into some wood. I have also been practicing my convex sharpening on them....I have two of them shaving sharp but no luck with the big one. My convex sharpening skills lacking, but I'm getting better. I'm looking forward to some battoning tests tomorrow!
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Here are the four knives I played with (minus the folder).
I started them off in the kitchen with some potatos. The all did an acceptable job. The edges on the file knives I think are a bit too thick to do any fine slicing work , but the other two especially the wharnie were great at slicing. The Wharnie made really thin uniform slices. The upswept knife did nice thin slices as well, but it was a bit more difficult to keep them as uniformly thin as the wharnie. The file knives pretty much chopped their way through the potato. The larger of the two sliced ok, but having such a thick edge made it difficult to keep the slices thin.
Next I took them to the yard and got out some split wood leftover from another passaround test. I went to work making some fuzz sticks. All of the knives did good job at the fuzz sticks. To my surprise the thicker file knives did just as good of a job as the two thinner blades. Again the Wharnie impressed me the most with fuzz stick making.
Time for some heavier work. I got out nice sized branch from the firewood pile and went to work on it with the large file knife. This knife is a tank and went through the wood without the slightest problem.
The edge on this knife is way too thick for my personal preference and I believe that had a lot to do with its cutting ability. I tried some cross grain battoning with it and it did ok. The thick edge did not really bite too deep in the wood. With a thinned out edge I think it would have breezed through cross grain battoning just as it did with the grain.
I started them off in the kitchen with some potatos. The all did an acceptable job. The edges on the file knives I think are a bit too thick to do any fine slicing work , but the other two especially the wharnie were great at slicing. The Wharnie made really thin uniform slices. The upswept knife did nice thin slices as well, but it was a bit more difficult to keep them as uniformly thin as the wharnie. The file knives pretty much chopped their way through the potato. The larger of the two sliced ok, but having such a thick edge made it difficult to keep the slices thin.
Next I took them to the yard and got out some split wood leftover from another passaround test. I went to work making some fuzz sticks. All of the knives did good job at the fuzz sticks. To my surprise the thicker file knives did just as good of a job as the two thinner blades. Again the Wharnie impressed me the most with fuzz stick making.
Time for some heavier work. I got out nice sized branch from the firewood pile and went to work on it with the large file knife. This knife is a tank and went through the wood without the slightest problem.
The edge on this knife is way too thick for my personal preference and I believe that had a lot to do with its cutting ability. I tried some cross grain battoning with it and it did ok. The thick edge did not really bite too deep in the wood. With a thinned out edge I think it would have breezed through cross grain battoning just as it did with the grain.
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Now for the upswept knife. I chose to batton this one because it seemed to be the sturdier of the two thin knives for this kind of job.
It was cruising through the wood just fine until it hit a pretty hard section with a twist in the grain…….and well you can see what happened
Although the blade did bend , IT DID NOT BREAK! Which mean the heat treat is pretty decent. Good thing too because at that moment I realized I had not put on my safety glasses….that could have really sucked had it broken and I had no glasses on. Like I said, the knife was doing a fine job of battoning until it hit this hard twisted spot.
A few more pics of the carnage.
I did not put the other two blades to hard use (the small file knife or the wharnie). The file knife was just a bit too small for the wood I was using so I just used it for fuzz sticks, and after the upswept blade bending and did not want to take another one out of service.
I enjoyed the time I had with the knives. I thought the thinner blades much better suited for kitchen work, though they can hold their own for heavier work. I found all of the knives quite comfortable to handle. Not hot spots when using them or blisters. The small file knife is a great little blade. I like the handle a lot, though I think it is a hair too thick at the base, and maybe could stand to be rounded out a tiny bit more. They were not super sharp when I received them so I did my best (which is not that great) to sharpen them up before and after I played with them. The Wharnie and the small file were pretty dang sharp when I got them and seemed to hold their edges quite well, though they did not see any hard work. The other two blade sharpened up ok, again I’m still getting the hang of sandpaper sharpening so I don’t blame the knife. They too seemed to hold their edges ok. As far as the folder I did not handle it much as it is just a prototype really. I did not care for it too much, it seemed fragile to me and I would have second thoughts using such a blade for much more than desk work. I will say that the looks of the fold did not appeal to me, the handle is SUPER comfortable, which I did not expect at all.
My biggest complaints are really just that some of the edges are a bit too thick and I think the file teeth could be taken down or removed completely. I say that just because when battoning the file teeth made me work a bit harder to get the blade through.
Thanks Bryce for the chance to play with your toys. Again I apologize for putting one out of commission. I think you are definitely on the right track and with some minor tweaks and adjustments you will be making some really great knives.
It was cruising through the wood just fine until it hit a pretty hard section with a twist in the grain…….and well you can see what happened
Although the blade did bend , IT DID NOT BREAK! Which mean the heat treat is pretty decent. Good thing too because at that moment I realized I had not put on my safety glasses….that could have really sucked had it broken and I had no glasses on. Like I said, the knife was doing a fine job of battoning until it hit this hard twisted spot.
A few more pics of the carnage.
I did not put the other two blades to hard use (the small file knife or the wharnie). The file knife was just a bit too small for the wood I was using so I just used it for fuzz sticks, and after the upswept blade bending and did not want to take another one out of service.
I enjoyed the time I had with the knives. I thought the thinner blades much better suited for kitchen work, though they can hold their own for heavier work. I found all of the knives quite comfortable to handle. Not hot spots when using them or blisters. The small file knife is a great little blade. I like the handle a lot, though I think it is a hair too thick at the base, and maybe could stand to be rounded out a tiny bit more. They were not super sharp when I received them so I did my best (which is not that great) to sharpen them up before and after I played with them. The Wharnie and the small file were pretty dang sharp when I got them and seemed to hold their edges quite well, though they did not see any hard work. The other two blade sharpened up ok, again I’m still getting the hang of sandpaper sharpening so I don’t blame the knife. They too seemed to hold their edges ok. As far as the folder I did not handle it much as it is just a prototype really. I did not care for it too much, it seemed fragile to me and I would have second thoughts using such a blade for much more than desk work. I will say that the looks of the fold did not appeal to me, the handle is SUPER comfortable, which I did not expect at all.
My biggest complaints are really just that some of the edges are a bit too thick and I think the file teeth could be taken down or removed completely. I say that just because when battoning the file teeth made me work a bit harder to get the blade through.
Thanks Bryce for the chance to play with your toys. Again I apologize for putting one out of commission. I think you are definitely on the right track and with some minor tweaks and adjustments you will be making some really great knives.
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C Bryant THANKS for the review !
Just to clarify ALL the knives were made from Nicholson files.When i saw the pic of the blade that bent(C emailed me the one where it,s out of the wood) i was thinking well it didn,t break that,s good but even better would have been for it to spring back into shape.Now that i,ve seen the 2nd pic of it in the wood and bent in an S shape it DID spring back quite a lot just not totally.
Hopefully some folks will chime in with there idea,s on the bent blade as in HOW could the steel have been tempered better or is this as good as i can expect from ONLY having oven temper the blade.It was NOT annealed and REHARDENED.
The larger knife of the bunch was my attempt at a scandi sorta grind,which i know NOTHING about having never used or even seen one up close.
It seem,s Scandi,s are held in high regard for bushcraft style blades,but mine does NOT seem to be doing it,s job.
HOW could i have improved that grind in ya,ll,s opinion ? I could have brought the grind higher thus thinning it but the scandi knives i have seen don,t come very high up on the blade or could it be that the file was just to THICK for a scandi ?
I,m happy to hear about the comfort of the handles as that is something i,m striving for and wondered how well they fit hands other than my own.CB which handle did you find the most comfy ?
Just to clarify ALL the knives were made from Nicholson files.When i saw the pic of the blade that bent(C emailed me the one where it,s out of the wood) i was thinking well it didn,t break that,s good but even better would have been for it to spring back into shape.Now that i,ve seen the 2nd pic of it in the wood and bent in an S shape it DID spring back quite a lot just not totally.
Hopefully some folks will chime in with there idea,s on the bent blade as in HOW could the steel have been tempered better or is this as good as i can expect from ONLY having oven temper the blade.It was NOT annealed and REHARDENED.
The larger knife of the bunch was my attempt at a scandi sorta grind,which i know NOTHING about having never used or even seen one up close.
It seem,s Scandi,s are held in high regard for bushcraft style blades,but mine does NOT seem to be doing it,s job.
HOW could i have improved that grind in ya,ll,s opinion ? I could have brought the grind higher thus thinning it but the scandi knives i have seen don,t come very high up on the blade or could it be that the file was just to THICK for a scandi ?
I,m happy to hear about the comfort of the handles as that is something i,m striving for and wondered how well they fit hands other than my own.CB which handle did you find the most comfy ?
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I agree about bringing the grind higher and thinning it out. The blade can be very thick on a scandi, but if it is, the edge grind must be very thin and go quite high on the blade to make up for it. Maybe a shallower/thinner convex, that way it has a little less shoulder on it.... think of the shape of a rifle bullet.
I found the little straightback and the wharnie the most comfortable to handle.