French regional knives...

my Au Sabot Pradel in carbon steel finally came late Sunday night, yes Sunday, since we had a major storm the post office is getting back into their regular routes now, and I like the knife. I knew was going to be smaller at 9.5 cm, it is thinner than I thought it would be. It has a tight spring so I put a drop of oil in it, helps, but it still kind of hard to open, will keep working it. It has a half stop too. It is not centered, but that does not bother me. Overall, good, solid knife, will need to touch up the edge a little.

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The only other thing I see is that when closed the point of the blade sits just high above the handle, so the point can bite you if you reach for it in the pocket. I have heard that if you file down the kick of the tang a bit, it may sit lower. It has a little extra tang. Any ideas?
 
The only other thing I see is that when closed the point of the blade sits just high above the handle, so the point can bite you if you reach for it in the pocket. I have heard that if you file down the kick of the tang a bit, it may sit lower. It has a little extra tang. Any ideas?
Take it slow when you file the kick. It's the right solution, but a little tang removal translates into a lot of blade movement!
 
I have now read every page of this amazing thread -- what an incredible source of information and inspiration! 👍

This Basque Yatagan recently arrived at my doorstep. I was really intrigued with the backstory of this knife (as presented on a couple of makers' websites). Apparently, this style was originally created for tobacco growers in southwestern France. What are now flat decorative pins were originally raised rosettes or rivets that were designed to improve the grip when the knife was used to cut gummy tobacco plants. I am just as glad now that these pins are flat and merely serve a decorative purpose, but it adds to the enjoyment of this knife knowing that, historically, there was a functional reason for their existence on the handle. One account suggests that this style originated in Bergerac, circa 1800. I will leave it to the experts here to provide their own thoughts on this.

One thing I will say -- this knife is exceptionally robust and sturdy. It would certainly have its way with a large baguette! :D The knife itself is large -- coming in at 12.5 cm/folded, with a blade length of 9.5 cm. That being said, it is truly comfortable in the hand and beautifully proportioned.

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Good question. Ordering a Laguiole direct from the maker proved to be more of an adventure than I hoped for.

As you are aware, I wanted a shadow knife with a carbon steel blade and juniper covers. Simple right? Not so much. The first maker on my list, Renaud Aubry, is no longer with us, RIP. I next looked at PYL, but you know how that turned out. I suppose I could always buy a knife from Bruno Coupat, but I'm not a fan of rebranded knives. I heard from Jerome Latreille last night and he doesn't want to build me a Laguiole with "plein manche en genevrier" because apparently juniper has a tendency to crack at the pins.

Argh...it shouldn't be this hard. 😢

I changed my criteria a little bit. I'm still getting a shadow Laguiole, but it'll be sporting a stainless 12c27 blade and horn covers. Maybe I'll get the knife I want one day, but this will fill my need for a Laguiole.

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Good question. Ordering a Laguiole direct from the maker proved to be more of an adventure than I hoped for.

As you are aware, I wanted a shadow knife with a carbon steel blade and juniper covers. Simple right? Not so much. The first maker on my list, Renaud Aubry, is no longer with us, RIP. I next looked at PYL, but you know how that turned out. I suppose I could always buy a knife from Bruno Coupat, but I'm not a fan of rebranded knives. I heard from Jerome Latreille last night and he doesn't want to build me a Laguiole with "plein manche en genevrier" because apparently juniper has a tendency to crack at the pins.

Argh...it shouldn't be this hard. 😢

I changed my criteria a little bit. I'm still getting a shadow Laguiole, but it'll be sporting a stainless 12c27 blade and horn covers. Maybe I'll get the knife I want one day, but this will fill my need for a Laguiole.

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Might this help?

This one is available from a US vendor for $184.00. Forge de Laguiole is the maker.
 
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Good question. Ordering a Laguiole direct from the maker proved to be more of an adventure than I hoped for.

As you are aware, I wanted a shadow knife with a carbon steel blade and juniper covers. Simple right? Not so much. The first maker on my list, Renaud Aubry, is no longer with us, RIP. I next looked at PYL, but you know how that turned out. I suppose I could always buy a knife from Bruno Coupat, but I'm not a fan of rebranded knives. I heard from Jerome Latreille last night and he doesn't want to build me a Laguiole with "plein manche en genevrier" because apparently juniper has a tendency to crack at the pins.

Argh...it shouldn't be this hard. 😢

I changed my criteria a little bit. I'm still getting a shadow Laguiole, but it'll be sporting a stainless 12c27 blade and horn covers. Maybe I'll get the knife I want one day, but this will fill my need for a Laguiole.

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Fontenille Pataud will make you a shadow pattern laguiole with juniper and carbon steel. It's a lock back though and I'm guessing that's a deal breaker? I feel your pain and wish you luck!
 

Wow. Beautiful lines on that one.

Might this help?

This one is available from a US vendor for $184.00. Forge de Laguiole is the maker.

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Fontenille Pataud will make you a shadow pattern laguiole with juniper and carbon steel. It's a lock back though and I'm guessing that's a deal breaker? I feel your pain and wish you luck!

Thanks for the suggestions fellas. The problem is that I am strangely particular. A Laguiole is not just a Laguiole. When I think of this style of knife, I imagine a sleek and elegant piece of steel. Most of the offerings in the market do not fit the image I have in my mind's eye of what a Laguiole should look like.

The knife I posted above has already been ordered. It may scratch the itch. Then again, it can just as easily wet the appetite and I'll probably be back on the hunt for that shadow juniper.
 
K you stole the words from my mouth, I was writing this...

Might this help?

This one is available from a US vendor for $184.00. Forge de Laguiole is the maker.

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Fontenille Pataud will make you a shadow pattern laguiole with juniper and carbon steel. It's a lock back though and I'm guessing that's a deal breaker? I feel your pain and wish you luck!
As far as I understood, Kamagong wants a sleek Lag.
FP, FdL, Honoré Durand are often barrel shaped.
The one shown on RayseM picture does not too much sport that look, though.
Just my taste, of course.
 
Wow. Beautiful lines on that one.





Thanks for the suggestions fellas. The problem is that I am strangely particular. A Laguiole is not just a Laguiole. When I think of this style of knife, I imagine a sleek and elegant piece of steel. Most of the offerings in the market do not fit the image I have in my mind's eye of what a Laguiole should look like.

The knife I posted above has already been ordered. It may scratch the itch. Then again, it can just as easily wet the appetite and I'll probably be back on the hunt for that shadow juniper.
You don't have to explain that to me! There's been a few knives it's taken years to find the exact requirements for. Renaud Aubrey's passing is certainly a sad thing. More than once I have perused his still open website, wishing....

I have the Forge de Laguiole shown above, but in olive. It is very nice, with an appropriately stout spring and the carbon steel is the icing. It probably won't be the cure, but it's very nice!



 
Is this a traditional or regional French pattern ??
While there are French design elements and it's produced by a French cutler, my spidey sense tells me this may be something Fontenille Pataud just came up with.
Especially since it is said to be named after the Great St Bernard Hospice, a specific location in the Alps between Switzerland and Italy.
Regardless, this exact End Grain Burled Beech Le Saint-Bernard lockback is on the way to me ...

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Is this a traditional or regional French pattern ??
While there are French design elements and it's produced by a French cutler, my spidey sense tells me this may be something Fontenille Pataud just came up with.
Especially since it is said to be produced in tribute to a dog from a specific region of the Alps between Italy and Switzerland.
Regardless, this exact End Grain Burled Beech Le Saint-Bernard lockback is on the way to me ...

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I've seen an Au Sabot version of that knife. It wasn't a lockback though.
 
Is this a traditional or regional French pattern ??
While there are French design elements and it's produced by a French cutler, my spidey sense tells me this may be something Fontenille Pataud just came up with.
Especially since it is said to be named after the Great St Bernard Hospice, a specific location in the Alps between Switzerland and Italy.
Regardless, this exact End Grain Burled Beech Le Saint-Bernard lockback is on the way to me ...

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I've seen an Au Sabot version of that knife. It wasn't a lockback though.
It is both regional and traditional, the Alpin, also named Montagnard (mountaineer) or Savoyard, created about the same time as the Opinel. (https://www.lecouteau.info/couteaux-régionaux-traditionnels/l-alpin/ ).
The name St Bernard does not refer to the pass (in fact two passes, Grand-St Bernard between Switzerland and Italy and Petit-St Bernard between France and Italy) but to the dog breed which was used to rescue victims of avalanches, hence the little barrel reminiscent of the barrel of strong liquor the dogs used to bear at the collar.
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