Friend of mine found old Knifetest.com video/ THIS is the Joe X DESTRUCTION VIDEO Thread

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He’s apparently already destroyed the ASH 2 as well… Curious to see if it did similarly.
 
I have a simple question... why did other knives perform better? even many folding knives…. some knives completely survived the test. and why did my busse survive such tests...
 
why did my busse survive such tests...
This is my biggest head scratcher thought. I’ve beaten and abused some of mine much worse and I’ve had no where near this type of damage..

I was just telling another member about how I’ve hammered one of my P&Ls into a stump and stood on it laterally, basically bouncing on it. I’m easily ~230+ lbs with boots jacket etc on. Bouncing in the knife puts a heck of a lot more weight on it and the knife didn’t do much more than a slight flex and return true.

Something here is…weird..
Send those pieces to the lab.
 
So, the ASH2 test should be interesting as the ASH2 is also not a thick knife. Not even a 1/4 inch thick. It's between 3/16 and 1/4 inch thick. So, where is this test. I thought he was testing both the same day
 
A fat version of the steel heart would obviously hold up considerably better. But thats the problem with these videos is all the variables arent taken into consideration. He doesnt even use the same testing medium when it comes to the car. Because different parts of the car are far more resilient than others. Something short and fat is obviously going to outperform something long and thin.. at least in a durability contest.

 
An ASH2 is older stock, curious to see the comparison. Is this a one off fail or has the heat treat changed on newer infi? Makes me want to take my AFSH to a stump and see if the tip survives. I know some of my older stuff has had no issues
 
in fact, Joe's tests showed that knife had no toughness or resistance to cracking... my opinion
buddy, you seem to be a much more reliable person than joe. May you consider conducting a more scientific destruction test ,and film the entire process, in the classic noss style. And you are backed by the warranty , no worries there.
you can be the new legend, like noss
 
I'm really not liking the replies on the video. His rabid fan base saying they've somehow debunked a "myth". I also don't appreciate Joe's nasty immature snarky remarks and emoji responses to his youtube comments. He should know by now it would've broken and that it would be covered by warranty. But he fails to mention that, and is instead harsh and full of criticism. This type of testing cannot be consistent, and I'm sure with multiple copies of the same knife each repeated "test" would have different results. The knife performed more than admirably considering the width and length and the "test" involved. Part of the price premium is the reputation and outstanding unbeatable warranty and community. A community which I can't seem to find competition for. It's a family. Jerry spoke to me on the forums upon purchase of my first Busse. And for that, and the praise others have given, he has a customer for life. I only wish I could buy more. No regrets.

Edit: With all of that being said, I am a bit curious to see a reply from Jerry and crew when he is able. Between the holidays and the passing of his dear friend, this isn't expected or necessary though.

One more edit: If I recall correctly Jerry graciously said he would provide this numbskull with a freebie knife to test. A very generous wholesome thing to do. And this absolute jackal acts like a child and smears the reputation of a fantastic company in response to an offer like that. To quote Jerry -
Given the proper tools, it does not take much to destroy a great knife. Given the internet, it does not take much to destroy a great reputation.

We have NEVER left a customer unsatisfied, when given the opportunity.
 
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Why is the video not linked anywhere in this thread ? Or I missed it? Think knife destruction videos are pretty pointless but wanted to see what everyone was talking about
Youtube Joex Busse. It was posted today. It's not hard to find. Frankly I don't think it should even be discussed at this point. The man is disgusting in his comment section. And I have to respectfully disagree with Jerry, here. I do not believe he is a good guy, nor would he be fun to drink with. He's an absolute spaz.

Edit: Sorry to sound so angry and bitter. I watched him before this incident and whilst I didn't necessarily like him, I did not dislike him outright. Theres a certain level of class and grace a man in his position should have, and its just not there. I digress and will excuse myself from this thread, it is not my intent to rant. But anyone reading this take that video with a grain of salt. Think about it logically.
 
Youtube Joex Busse. It was posted today. It's not hard to find. Frankly I don't think it should even be discussed at this point. The man is disgusting in his comment section. And I have to respectfully disagree with Jerry, here. I do not believe he is a good guy, nor would he be fun to drink with. He's an absolute spaz.

Edit: Sorry to sound so angry and bitter. I watched him before this incident and whilst I didn't necessarily like him, I did not dislike him outright. Theres a certain level of class and grace a man in his position should have, and its just not there. I digress and will excuse myself from this thread, it is not my intent to rant. But anyone reading this take that video with a grain of salt. Think about it logically.
Just watched a few minutes of it skipping around . This guy is a clown and the video is dumb . Unsubscribe
 
there are things wrong on steel or heat treatment, the big moon shape chips is not a d good sign of high toughness and the rust breakage face means alot.
the steel source quality of steel plate) is the first “criminal suspect”,do you guys remember that what noss have done on scrapper yard s7? there are big chunk of edge was chipped out .
 
100% of those guys complaining on that video have never owned a Busse and were never going to buy one.

There are always aberrations and it's a basic concept in scientific testing that a sample size of one is meaningless.

Over the last couple of months I've done probably ten field trips into the Australian bush and carried a battle mistress every time. I've been clearing vegetation, digging dirt, hitting rocks - without even a tiny chip or roll.

The last trip I did, some exploratory bushwhacking into a remote area:

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You can see how thick the vegetation is behind and to the side. It was like that right up to the tree trunk. I cleared the whole area around the tree using the battle mistress. The knife was chopping hardwood, going into the soil, hitting granite rocks, without any damage at all. I've done that three or four times over the last month. (Why was I clearing it? These are post-fire weedy shrubs and juvenile trees, stinging nettle and the like, so there is no problem with clearing them. They will naturally thin out any way. And I wanted a photo.)

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After a bit of use the knife is dirty but unharmed. Can't say the same thing for my arms.

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I counted about 15 leeches on each leg, and a whole lot had already fallen off. More were on my hands, arms, neck and head. There were so many I gave up pulling them off.

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For those of us who use them normally rather than do tests for likes, Busse still works just fine.
 
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buddy, you seem to be a much more reliable person than joe. May you consider conducting a more scientific destruction test ,and film the entire process, in the classic noss style. And you are backed by the warranty , no worries there.
you can be the new legend, like noss
the experiment that led to destruction must be repeated. Joe is the best person to replicate this. I tested 2 of my knives and my friend's knife. but I'm not Joe and I can't exactly do it like he does. it would be nice if the company sent him a couple of knives. and then it would become clear to everyone that this was a defect of a particular specimen or normal behavior for this steel... but what is the probability that it was Joe who got the defect? maybe S5 or S1 steel would be better. or make the INFI hardness 55-56 units, not 60...
Of course, I could break the knife and make a video of the test. but it seems to me that the warranty does not cover intentional destruction.
 
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