Frisky Dingo flaked...

If FD had sincerly apologized in his first post and not tried to make excuses and further dig a hole, this would of been forgiven...am I right?

I mean I know your word is bond, but sometimes things happen and we have to back out of a deal,,but to say he found a better deal elsewhere Is unacceptable and not cool at all...he should of kept that to himself and apologized saying he just spoke to soon.

Saying "I'll Take It"then shopping elsewhere for a better deal is not how it works.As a few posters said above"I'll Take It" is not a way of saying, hold this for me for a few days and we'll see if I still want it.

I like to think of the knife community as a close knit family,,who can forgive a mistake.And probably would of forgiven FD, had he not said the things he said, and instead would of apologized.
 
I don't see why his FS threads would be removed unless he does get banned, which I think would be a little harsh as he does have 100% positive feedback.

However, while we're at it: Frisky Dingo and myself had mutual interest in each others knives and we had PM'd a few times regarding possible trades. He made me an offer for a trade that I would've agreed to and before I could even respond, he starts a FS ad selling his knives. This was an hour or so after his PM. I was a bit baffled why/how someone could offer a trade and then proceed to sell before a response. If it were days before I replied, sure, I understand; but that wasn't the case. Then I thought he would buy my knives with the money he generated but no luck (but that was just wishful thinking).

At the time, I was a bit bothered but nothing was set in stone or anything so I just let it go. And while I feel he didn't do anything wrong, so to speak, I just thought I'd share after reading this thread.
 
It appears Frisky Dingo took his ball and went home. A quick apology could have prevented all of this.:yawn:

Here Frisky Dingo, you can copy and paste... [I am sorry, I now see that "I'll take it" means "I'll take it". I apologize for wasting anyone's time, it won't happen again without good (very good) reason.]
 
s.c. said:
I agree. I don't know FD personally and I'm trying to defend him or anything, but some of the responses here are much too severe.
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Without an actual transaction, feedback of positive or negative should never be left. In other words unless you get screwed out of something tangible you don't leave negative feedback. Just as you don't leave positive without an actual deal.
 
jill jackson said:
Saying you will take an item then backing out isn't grounds for negative feedback.
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I think we need a ruling from above on that. If the balk is well documented and clearly shows negligence such as this case does, perhaps it ought to be grounds for negative feedback.

ThievesLikeUs said:
If FD had sincerly apologized in his first post and not tried to make excuses and further dig a hole, this would of been forgiven...am I right?
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Yes, I believe that assessment to be true. But let's look at what we know...

Sale thread went up on 07/21/10. A day later, FriskyDingo posts,

FriskyDingo said:
I'll take the Rukus, please send me your paypal address and lets get this thing done.
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Two weeks later, the seller posts,

GregB said:
Frisky Dingo, PM & emailed you last week. Email me ASAP.

GregB
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That means there has been a gap in communication for two weeks. FriskyDingo claims a system glitch ate his message. There are two problems here:

1) He posted "I'll take it" and even suggested his own eagerness to complete the deal. Done deal in my opinion.

2) IF a message was sent, he never bothered to see that it made it. If I had important news for a seller (NOTE: I would not back out on an "I'll take it" in the first place), I'd send the message a couple of times in a couple of forms until I made sure the message was received.

The seller waited ANOTHER 6 days before he made the knife available again. The pseudo-buyer (Frisky Dingo) hung up the sale for nearly three weeks, a period in which other offers may have come in.

All those facts, combined with FriskyDingo's defiant and belligerent posts that followed, are just wrong in so many ways.
 
Guyon said:
That means there has been a gap in communication for two weeks. FriskyDingo claims a system glitch ate his message. There are two problems here:

1) He posted "I'll take it" and even suggested his own eagerness to complete the deal. Done deal in my opinion.

2) IF a message was sent, he never bothered to see that it made it. If I had important news for a seller (NOTE: I would not back out on an "I'll take it" in the first place), I'd send the message a couple of times in a couple of forms until I made sure the message was received.

The seller waited ANOTHER 6 days before he made the knife available again. The pseudo-buyer (Frisky Dingo) hung up the sale for nearly three weeks, a period in which other offers may have come in.

All those facts, combined with FriskyDingo's defiant and belligerent posts that followed, are just wrong in so many ways.
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Also if there were a glitch he could of also revised his "I'll Take It" post to say "Sorry Spoke To Soon"
Its as easy as that, IMO this is a case of FD saying "oh well, he'll sell it eventually, I got mine, no need to inform him"
 
Guyon said:
I think we need a ruling from above on that. If the balk is well documented and clearly shows negligence such as this case does, perhaps it ought to be grounds for negative feedback
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In the past when negative was left without a deal actually occurring, the ruling from above was that it should not have been. That is what I am going on. If the people in charge want to consider it on a case by case basis instead of a set rule, I agree with a ruling from above.
 
This could have been a lesson learned, but

FD flaked yet again............................................
 
gzb said:
My feelings exactly.

When I post "I'll take it", or send a PM/email with the same message, I'm pretty much comitted.

Seller should rightly expect me to follow through on my end, barring some rare/unforeseen personal issue.

And that doesn't include finding it for a cheaper price.

Sorry FD, you hung him up when you comitted to take it and didn't...
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Wholeheartedly agree.

benyaM95 Ranger Knif said:
Guys, come on.... student years are lean years....
Having said that - FD, I would still purchased the knife, but put it up for sale right away
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I worked fulltime when I was in college. No excuses, life is what you make of it.
 
Interesting- Public shame from your peers in an effort to establish a common value system based on the expectations and standards set by the community.

Hi Frisky Dingo..... I see you're watching.

Is it really so bad that we try?
 
jill jackson said:
Saying you will take an item then backing out isn't grounds for negative feedback.
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It may or may not be. I would guess it really depends case by case.
I have seen it done here in the past.

In my opinion I would say this case definitely quality's. But on the other hand some people are more forgiving then others.
 
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jill jackson said:
In the past when negative was left without a deal actually occurring, the ruling from above was that it should not have been. That is what I am going on. If the people in charge want to consider it on a case by case basis instead of a set rule, I agree with a ruling from above.
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Question asked: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8608542

It may be more of a headache to moderators to sort it out case-by-case. However, there's still GB&U to call out such folks in public. It's just that a lot of the newer folks don't search GB&U when completing a transaction and rely solely on iTrader ratings. I look at both.
 
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