Frisky Dingo flaked...

about three weeks ago, through private messaging i told someone i would take a knife for sale. After re-evaluating my finances i decided it would be really irresponsible of me. I sent him a PM apologizing for the inconvenience, explaining the situation... and ASKING if i could back out.

I never heard back from him, but noticed a couple days later his thread was still active and listed "for sale". It did not occur to me to follow up with this gentleman.

I will say this, not only would i feel it to be inappropriate for me to receive negative feedback for that incident, but if he were to start a thread bashing me i would be totally offended, if not outright pissed.

I haven't been around that long, but in my time here anyone who's dealt with me will vouch that i am trustworthy and treat everyone with the utmost respect. It is my experience that knife folks in general are good and honorable people.

Do i think FD has represent himself as a jackass in the dialogue of this thread? Yes.

Do i think at any point of time FD should have made an apology? Absolutely.

Should he receive negative feedback for a transaction that never occurred? I don't think so.

This is a very tricky situation, because on one hand i don't neccessarliy feel it warranted to completely bash someones reputation over backing out of a deal... on the other hand this thread has really educate me on a person I coincidentally was just about to offer my business.
 
chadridv said:
about three weeks ago, through private messaging i told someone i would take a knife for sale. After re-evaluating my finances i decided it would be really irresponsible of me. I sent him a PM apologizing for the inconvenience, explaining the situation... and ASKING if i could back out.

I never heard back from him, but noticed a couple days later his thread was still active and listed "for sale". It did not occur to me to follow up with this gentleman.

I will say this, not only would i feel it to be inappropriate for me to receive negative feedback for that incident, but if he were to start a thread bashing me i would be totally offended, if not outright pissed.

I haven't been around that long, but in my time here anyone who's dealt with me will vouch that i am trustworthy and treat everyone with the utmost respect. It is my experience that knife folks in general are good and honorable people.

Do i think FD has represent himself as a jackass in the dialogue of this thread? Yes.

Do i think at any point of time FD should have made an apology? Absolutely.

Should he receive negative feedback for a transaction that never occurred? I don't think so.

This is a very tricky situation, because on one hand i don't neccessarliy feel it warranted to completely bash someones reputation over backing out of a deal... on the other hand this thread has really educate me on a person I coincidentally was just about to offer my business.
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He doesn't deserve negative feedback cause you did it to but had a better reason?

You should have never said you would take it in the first place, you flaked too. You just did it privately.
 
Brennanscott said:
He doesn't deserve negative feedback cause you did it to but had a better reason?

You should have never said you would take it in the first place, you flaked too. You just did it privately.
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i don't really appreciate being told that I "flaked too". i don't think it's flaking out to say to someone... "i am very sorry for this inconvenience, but due to my financial situation i should have never commit to this purchase, furthermore I am asking you respectfully to let me back out. If need be, i will still honor my commitment."

Also, I think the reason for backing out is not even relative. FD was stupid to make it public that his reason was because he found it cheaper, however the bottom line is that he wanted to back out, as did i. You can have an opinion as to whether the reason is bad or good, but as a policy, we are trying to determine whether backing out of a deal warrants negative feedback.
 
The better way to handle things like this is to be certain you CAN afford to buy the knife prior to saying "I'll take it".

Saying "I'll take it" before determining you can afford the knife is bass ackward and irresponsible.

Do you deserve negative feedback? Nah, not publically but you should expect to get your pee pee slapped in private communications.

However, do this more than ONCE and you deserve being ID'd and flogged hard here in GB&U!!!!
 
wolfmann601 said:
The better way to handle things like this is to be certain you CAN afford to buy the knife prior to saying "I'll take it".

Saying "I'll take it" before determining you can afford the knife is bass ackward and irresponsible.

Do you deserve negative feedback? Nah, not publically but you should expect to get your pee pee slapped in private communications.

However, do this more than ONCE and you deserve being ID'd and flogged hard here in GB&U!!!!
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Agreed! and that was a mistake i personally will not make again. Obviously it should not happen once, none the less repeatedly.

I also agree that you should have your pee pee slapped... PRIVATELY.

peepee slapping should never take place in public anyway ; )
 
chadridv said:
i don't really appreciate being told that I "flaked too". i don't think it's flaking out to say to someone... "i am very sorry for this inconvenience, but due to my financial situation i should have never commit to this purchase, furthermore I am asking you respectfully to let me back out. If need be, i will still honor my commitment."
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I beg to differ. You flaked. Make sure you have the money before you post or email an "I'll take it." I do appreciate though that you offered (if that's a quotation of your email) to purchase the knife anyway if the seller said no.
 
Guyon said:
I beg to differ. You flaked. Make sure you have the money before you post or email an "I'll take it." I do appreciate though that you offered (if that's a quotation of your email) to purchase the knife anyway if the seller said no.
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Actually you're right. I guess it's just tough to hear because... A. Having "flaked" out on something has always seemed like it would be associated with a habitual behavior or personality trait. Which I don't have, especially in making commitments.

B. Yes, that was a direct quote from the private message in my situation. So I truly asked if it would be ok as opposed to told. I would have paid if I had to.
 
I guess in the final anaylsis (makes this sound like I am intelligent:D) the way you handle this privately with the seller will be the difference between other members knowing you backed out of a deal and never knowing you backed out of a deal.

Also, should it end up here and you take a "Berak position" concerning your conduct; you willl get flogged.................hard. However, if you are sincere with your apology, and make it clear that your conduct was an aberration all this negative drama shall pass with your rep still intact.

Of course there are legitimate reasons to back out after saying "I'll take it". If you have a massive heart attack and die, if you are involved in a fatal car crash, if your wife ran up the bills so high, forgetting to pay the mortgage that the Sheriff just padlocked your front door, and if you really did lose both your arms screwing around with a band saw most here will forgive you if you do flake.

Anything less and after uttering "I'll take it" you own a new knife!!!!
 
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-Buddy
 
Sick or Sane = FriskyDingo. Both gone.

I hope one day he understands the importance of honesty.
 
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It's amazing how, after all the self-righteous posturing is said and done, a person's true colors often show through...
 
markksr said:
It's amazing how, after all the self-righteous posturing is said and done, a person's true colors often show through...
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Thankfully they are not too bright either. Takes a lot less time to confirm suspicions.
 
chadridv said:
Actually you're right. I guess it's just tough to hear because... A. Having "flaked" out on something has always seemed like it would be associated with a habitual behavior or personality trait. Which I don't have, especially in making commitments.

B. Yes, that was a direct quote from the private message in my situation. So I truly asked if it would be ok as opposed to told. I would have paid if I had to.
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like with the most recent back outs, how the potential buyer chooses to respond will most likely determine the attitude with which they are received.
 
Not to keep this thread going forever, but we need to make it black and white.
Don't say I'll take it and not do so no matter what the reason other than an unexpected death, after which, who the hell cares who has a problem with it at that point. :D
 
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Another don't is signing up with another ID to respond to something in GB&U. Alternate ID's are only welcome in W&C. We have even had them used in giveaways. Doing so is a strong indication of dishonesty. If we sniff one out, all ID's will be shark food.

Finally the last one. If someone screws up and we all do that, just own up to it without excuses and do what is needed to straighten out the situation. That shows a lot more character than a lot of people realize. People who handle things that way and learn from it get deserved respect. Trying to lessen the way knives are brought, sold and traded here is not something that is going to go over well in this community or in the knife world as a whole as easily as it can under other circumstances.
 
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Bastid said:
Sick or Sane = FriskyDingo. Both gone.

I hope one day he understands the importance of honesty.
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So Frisky Dingo is not a flake, he's a snake!!!

Troll on Frisky, how many banishments willl you accumulate over the next few weeks?

I am Going to have a giveaway; guess the number of ttimes Frisky dingbat gets banned through Sept!!!:D
 
First Berak, now Frisky Dingo. Maybe these guys will learn to just pay the seller when you post "I'll take it."
 
wolfmann601 said:
I guess in the final anaylsis (makes this sound like I am intelligent:D) the way you handle this privately with the seller will be the difference between other members knowing you backed out of a deal and never knowing you backed out of a deal.

Also, should it end up here and you take a "Berak position" concerning your conduct; you willl get flogged.................hard. However, if you are sincere with your apology, and make it clear that your conduct was an aberration all this negative drama shall pass with your rep still intact.

Of course there are legitimate reasons to back out after saying "I'll take it". If you have a massive heart attack and die, if you are involved in a fatal car crash, if your wife ran up the bills so high, forgetting to pay the mortgage that the Sheriff just padlocked your front door, and if you really did lose both your arms screwing around with a band saw most here will forgive you if you do flake.

Anything less and after uttering "I'll take it" you own a new knife!!!!
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Good post and food for thought. I put a knife up for sale a couple of months ago and a well respected member sent me a PM saying he'd take it, but didn't post it in the thread. He also wanted to know if I could hold off for a few days before he sent payment. I said sure, since I had done the exact same thing just a few days prior, and a member here extended that courtesy to me. I made sure when Friday arrived, I sent my payment his way by Priority Mail. But my buyer disappeared. I hear nothing from him, no PMs, emails, nada.

After more than a week of zero communication, I finally sent the guy a PM teling him that if he hadn't sent payment by then (almost ten days after his commitment to buy), to just keep his money and I'd keep my knife. Here again, zero communication, no expalanation or even a sorry ass excuse. Nothing at all. I really wanted to ding the guy, but as has been stated, no deal was consummated and I felt like it would get me nowhere, other than exposing this weasel as someone who is not what he appears to be. Even now, he's yet to communicate with me.
 
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