G-shock Why?

Grouch said:
What are the Gshock crystals made of? Can't the plastic cases/straps get scratched, too?
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yes but you won't care because its not a 3000 gold plated dollar Rolex or breitling it's a watch that was designed to get beat up and used

all a Rolex is , is a fancy piece of jewelry nothing more nothing less. if its accurate time keeping my watch is syncs to the atomic clock can't get more accurate than that
 
SilentJohn said:
yes but you won't care because its not a 3000 gold plated dollar Rolex or breitling it's a watch that was designed to get beat up and used

all a Rolex is , is a fancy piece of jewelry nothing more nothing less. if its accurate time keeping my watch is syncs to the atomic clock can't get more accurate than that
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Lot of misinformation here. It's extremely difficult to scratch a sapphire crystal. Not much can scratch it, and watches very rarely come into contact with any of it. That's why you don't see such scratches on pics of watches with sapphire crystals. It's not that the owners baby them. Also consider the Rolex series of c.157X movements are tough as nails and designed specifically to be so. They'll be ticking in future generations long after GShocks will be in landfills.

CBPs (cheap black plastics) certainly have their place, but so do Rolex dive watches and others. To compare the GShock to the Rolex then determine the Rolex is only jewelry is ridiculous.
 
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I am very utilitarian about these things, so to me high end watches are jewellery. There is no practical reason a watch needs to cost more than the highest end smartphone or laptop. It does not do any more and it does not cost more to manufacture using modern production methods. I look at a man wearing an expensive watch and I see a man who is mismanaging his money. The exception is when such items are part of the job "uniform". Then they get a pass. :D
 
I do not dismiss Rolex watches as mere jewelry-they are fine machines. But unless those Rolex are fine-tuned by an expert on a regular basis, if they are ticking, they gonna be waaaay off.cwd
 
cwdotson said:
I do not dismiss Rolex watches as mere jewelry-they are fine machines. But unless those Rolex are fine-tuned by an expert on a regular basis, if they are ticking, they gonna be waaaay off.cwd
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which is why I like my atomic sync casio watches. every night they are synced to the most accurate time in the world
 
sideways said:
I am very utilitarian about these things, so to me high end watches are jewellery. There is no practical reason a watch needs to cost more than the highest end smartphone or laptop. It does not do any more and it does not cost more to manufacture using modern production methods. I look at a man wearing an expensive watch and I see a man who is mismanaging his money. The exception is when such items are part of the job "uniform". Then they get a pass. :D
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To YOU.

Also many will see one who collects knives or one who has any knife other than a single $25 SAK folder and a single $15 Mora fixed blade as "a man who is mismanaging his money".
 
cwdotson said:
I do not dismiss Rolex watches as mere jewelry-they are fine machines. But unless those Rolex are fine-tuned by an expert on a regular basis, if they are ticking, they gonna be waaaay off.cwd
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Define "waaaay off". Do you define it as seconds off?

These are COSC certified chronometers individually tested for several consecutive days in 5 positions and at 3 temperatures and needing a simple service every seven years. In excess of a million chronometers are delivered every year, and that's only about 3% of Swiss mechanical watch production.

Look into ISO 3159 to see the specs of the tests and a movement's accuracy results to pass and receive chronometer certificate.

Again, too much misinformation being passed too easily in this thread.
 
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Yup. To ME. I wasn't taking a shot at you leghog. Apologies if you felt that way.

It's one of my personal disfunctions. Luxury items just don't do a lot for me. No matter what the item. :D

So what is the allure of g-shocks? They are tough as nails, have good built in features, don't cost the earth, and best of all they keep excellent time. There is a pathfinder on my wrist right now.
 
sideways said:
Yup. To ME. I wasn't taking a shot at you leghog. Apologies if you felt that way.
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Didn't affect me as I won't own a new Rolex or new GShock (or any other new CBP), but the misinformation being posted here needs correcting.

As an aside, the Seiko SKX007 I'm wearing cost less than an atomic clock Casio Pathfinder, and it isn't "way off" even though it's not a chronometer. So I suppose between the two of us, it's you with the "luxury watch". You really shouldn't mismanage your money like that. :)
 
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It depends on what floats your bought. I have a friend who spent over $2500 on a binocular and over $3000 on a spotting scope. His rationale was that he couldn't
afford a Rolls Royce, but he could afford the Rolls Royce of optics. We compared his binocular and scope to my $250 binocular and my $350 scope. There was very
little practical difference, but he was still happy.

While it's true that a Rolex will be ticking long after a plastic watch is in the landfill, it is also true that I can buy 5 to 10 plastic watches for what it costs to service
the Rolex. As I said, whatever floats your boat.
 
UffDa said:
It depends on what floats your bought. I have a friend who spent over $2500 on a binocular and over $3000 on a spotting scope. His rationale was that he couldn't
afford a Rolls Royce, but he could afford the Rolls Royce of optics. We compared his binocular and scope to my $250 binocular and my $350 scope. There was very
little practical difference, but he was still happy.

While it's true that a Rolex will be ticking long after a plastic watch is in the landfill, it is also true that I can buy 5 to 10 plastic watches for what it costs to service
the Rolex. As I said, whatever floats your boat.
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Try each binocular at end of evening nautical twilight and beginning morning nautical twilight. The only practical reason to have superior hunting optics is to extend the hunting day and it's also the only time you can truly see the difference in the optics.

Your comment about the cost of servicing watches is because most Americans willingly pay exorbitant prices for such because they think it is expected. I've seen it happen for a couple of decades now. Same phenomenon as Americans paying premium prices for a cup of Charbucks coffee made from average beans which have been overroasted. I pay less than $100 bucks to have an automatic watch serviced no more than once every 7 years. The jewelry shops that farm their watch service work to the same watchmaker are charged the same by the watchmaker, but those jewelry shops charge their customers double that, and they do no work except to record the watch, put it in a bag, give the customer the receipt, and call the customer when the watch is ready for pickup. They don't even deliver the watches to the watchmaker. Uninformed Americans being separated from their money whether it be coffee, watches, or watch services.
 
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leghog said:
Didn't affect me as I won't own a new Rolex or new GShock (or any other new CBP), but the misinformation being posted here needs correcting.

As an aside, the Seiko SKX007 I'm wearing cost less than an atomic clock Casio Pathfinder, and it isn't "way off" even though it's not a chronometer. So I suppose between the two of us, it's you with the "luxury watch". You really shouldn't mismanage your money like that. :)
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Now when I say pathfinder what I really mean is some dual sensor casio thingy that isn't a gshock that cost about 50 bucks... and I got as a gift. Your move. :)
 
interesting discussion here... coming from watches to knives...

i own both mechanical and digital watches... the durability of g-shocks and the history of them living up to, or exceeding, their intended design goals (triple 10 design - 10 yrs battery life, 10 bar, 10 storey drop) with some hip endorsements/projects and real world survival stories (black hawk down, french navy seals, environmental projects, design projects, etc...) add to their popularity.

I have a bunch of g's ... I also have a bunch of mechanical/auto watches. I wouldn't hesitate dropping a g-shock out of a 10 storey window and have it continue to work... (I have also left one in a freezer for a couple days, frozen in a solid block of ice, to see what would happen... not much.. ;)) ... I don't have a rollie but do have some 'nice' watches with decent specs... I don't know that I would throw one of them out a 10 storey window and expect it to work at acceptable standards without some kind of regulation. (not to mention the dings on the case)

Rolex watches are built out of some pretty tough materials (chemical grade stainless iirc) forged/stamped cases (not cast, iirc)... so no doubt tough.. they have a long standing history in the military as well... so hard use is a part of the appeal. Panerai and Blancpain, to name a couple, share 'hard use' history as well... (whether you want to put a $4k watch through the 'meat grinder' is a different story)

technically a watch with atomic (+ gps?) sync is probably as 'accurate' as you're going to get, but the sync is like getting a mechanical watch COSC regulated every night.

mechanical/auto movements can last quite a long time, but the reality is that they will require service... friction does things to moving parts. the rolex paraflex shock system is pretty awesome as far as shock systems go, but a balance wheel is a very fine and precise thing... shock is not its friend. I've accidentally dropped movements while working on watches with no noticeable affect, but I try not to do that too often... ;)

a digital movement (like a digital display g-shock) has no moving parts.

I have scratched every type of crystal.. plexi, hardlex, sapphire, whatever... i seem to have the ability to scratch them all... :P

All said and done, i set my mechanical watches by my digital watches (atomic), or cellphone (atomic clock app).
 
leghog said:
Try each binocular at end of evening nautical twilight and beginning morning nautical twilight. The only practical reason to have superior hunting optics is to extend the hunting day and it's also the only time you can truly see the difference in the optics.
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That is true, but as you say, some Americans pay too much for things just because they can. The person who bought the expensive optics does not hunt and I doubt that
either the binocular or scope have been out of the box except for show and tell. I am retired now, but I worked for a gun smith who specialized in tactical shotguns. I was always
surprised to see them come back for the latest and greatest sights or whatever and they had never been fired. :roll eyes: So, what does anyone spend $1000 on a modified 870
and never shoot it? Just because they can?

I remember a video of a meeting in a boardroom where the CEO walked around the table handing out reports. He cold have had a secretary do it our just passed them around,
but he made sure that he used his left hand and that his sleeve didn't cover his $90,000 watch. :roll eyes:

Anyway, I noticed that the band on my 10 year old Casio FW-91 is cracking. A new band costs almost as much a the watch. I'm thinking of getting a G-Shock. :D
 
leghog said:
Try each binocular at end of evening nautical twilight and beginning morning nautical twilight. The only practical reason to have superior hunting optics is to extend the hunting day and it's also the only time you can truly see the difference in the optics.
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That is true, but as you say, some Americans pay too much for things just because they can. The person who bought the expensive optics does not hunt and I doubt that
either the binocular or scope have been out of the box except for show and tell. I am retired now, but I worked for a gun smith who specialized in tactical shotguns. I was always
surprised to see them come back for the latest and greatest sights or whatever and they had never been fired. :roll eyes: So, why does anyone spend $1000 on a modified 870
or 1100 and never shoot it? Just because they can?

I remember a video of a meeting in a boardroom where the CEO walked around the table handing out reports. He cold have had a secretary do it our just passed them around,
but he made sure that he used his left hand and that his sleeve didn't cover his $90,000 watch. :roll eyes:

Anyway, I noticed that the band on my 10 year old Casio FW-91 is cracking. A new band costs almost as much a the watch. I'm thinking of getting a G-Shock. :D
 
shortyg83 said:
Once again I did not mean to offend anyone. Personally I do not like the ones I have seen. Just not my style I guess.
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OK, fine by me.. leaves more for the rest of us. ;) Like others have said, I'm more into function than form. A Timex Ironman used to last me about a year to year and a half, I did that for a while before getting a G-shock. I'm on my 3rd G-shock now, but only because I tired of the one I had and wanted something new. My first one is a world traveler now, 2nd is reserved as a beater, but it never gets used as such, as the 3rd works fine for all I do.

To me, G-shock is kinda the Spyderco of watches.

First one:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/g-3011-world-tour-begins-6-13-12-a-705360-new-post.html

Current:
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When it comes to Casio their G-Shocks, I prefer the classic models like the DW-5600E and DW-6900E and variants on these, with tough solar and/or atomic time receivers. Great watches. Altough I currently prefer the Pathfinder series over the G-Shocks. In my experience they're just as tough as the G-Shocks, but I like their looks more.

I love automatics too. My Seiko SKX023 is one of my favourites. I own it since 1998, it has been with me on a few outdoor trips, and the famous 7s26 movement still runs like new. It has never been serviced. On work days, the Tissot Visodate is a favourite for the office.

For me, watches are just like knives and multitools. I wear what I like and what I expect to "need" that day.
 
leghog said:
Too bad he didn't realize that the VAST majority of people won't even notice your watch.
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They were all sales managers. They knew exactly what his watch was and I'm sure that when the meeting was over they all ran out to see if they could find that watch.

Before I retired from my first job as a service tech , I had to deal with salesmen and their managers. They were a very strange group of people. If the manager
bought a Mercedes, they all bought a Mercedes. If the manager traded his Mercedes in on a Corvette, they all did the same thing. At one time the parking lot
was full of DeLoreans. Seriously. A salesman who didn't go along with the program was looked down upon.
 
You guys missed out on a deal. A 1949 Rolex Oyster Perpetual sold at a Christie's last Monday for $1,220,632. I wonder if it works?

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