Gear2survive knife shop [SOLVED]

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There's nothing to be gained from piling on at this point. Everyone has made their views clear on the situation, as they understand it. Anyone who's called and harrassed this guy is at least as out of line as he has been. I agree completely that there is no appropriate resolution other than a full refund, and it seems that that's happening. I hope all parties learn from this:

1.The buyers shouldn't have paid up front; 2. the seller shouldn't have required up front payment; 3. the seller should have immediately refunded the money when it knew it couldn't deliver the product for which buyers had paid; 4. Buyers shouldn't have waited so long to pursue a claim through PayPal; and 5. The seller should swallow his pride and abandon any notion that there is a legitimate justification for keeping money paid for a product he didn't deliver.
 
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Threatening messages and 3am calls are not acceptable. Nether is the way that you treated your customers. I am not a lawyer, but I think that both are criminal acts.
 
HappyDaddy said:
There's nothing to be gained from piling on at this point. Everyone has made their views clear on the situation, as they understand it. Anyone who's called and harrassed this guy is at least as out of line as he has been. I agree completely that there is no appropriate resolution other than a full refund, and it seems that that's happening. I hope all parties learn from this:

1.The buyers shouldn't have paid up front; 2. the seller shouldn't have required up front payment; 3. the seller should have immediately refunded the money when it knew it couldn't deliver the product for which buyers had paid; 4. Buyers shouldn't have waited so long to pursue a claim through PayPal; and 5. The seller should swallow his pride and abandon any notion that there is a legitimate justification for keeping money paid for a product he didn't deliver.
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Minor point, there was no "seller" he never had the knives in his possession nor did he sell the victims anything. He should be thanking whatever deity he believes in for not being charged with a felony.
 
ncrockclimb said:
Threatening messages and 3am calls are not acceptable. Nether is the way that you treated your customers. I am not a lawyer, but I think that both are criminal acts.
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:barf:
I would certainly be interested in seeing / listening to these "threatening" messages...
 
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of there choice. I m in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
 
mlacrimo said:
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of their choice. I'm in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
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^^^^ :thumbup::thumbup:


I have been observing this thread, & have been hoping that everything would eventually be resolved.

I hope that the OP will weigh in here one last time, & this thread will be closed.
 
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mlacrimo said:
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of there choice. I m in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
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Outstanding! :)
 
Hi Marc, hello Forum.
I confirm I have received the FULL refund of 470$ as Marc stated in his post.
I'm very happy of this.
Please Marc don't take it as offense but I'll skip the ZT350 offer; my goal was the refund and it has been accomplished, I've been taught not to take advantage of situations and here is what I do.
Sell the ZT350 to somebody and make him happy to make business with you.

For the MOD: please is it possible to remove "fraud" by the main topic or add something like [FULL SOLVED], is it not good to show something wrong that has been solved.

Thanks to Marc because he has done the right thing and to the forum for the support!
 
mlacrimo said:
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of there choice. I m in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
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Good call.
 
Basetta,

Glad to hear the problem was resolved! The original poster can edit the title of the thread (if they want to) by clicking 'edit post' on their first post and changing the text in the 'Title' bar.

Regards
 
HappyDaddy said:
There's nothing to be gained from piling on at this point. Everyone has made their views clear on the situation, as they understand it. Anyone who's called and harrassed this guy is at least as out of line as he has been. I agree completely that there is no appropriate resolution other than a full refund, and it seems that that's happening. I hope all parties learn from this:

1.The buyers shouldn't have paid up front; 2. the seller shouldn't have required up front payment; 3. the seller should have immediately refunded the money when it knew it couldn't deliver the product for which buyers had paid; 4. Buyers shouldn't have waited so long to pursue a claim through PayPal; and 5. The seller should swallow his pride and abandon any notion that there is a legitimate justification for keeping money paid for a product he didn't deliver.
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Thanks you for the clearest view/rules, now I've learned the lesson.
Thanks you HappyDaddy
 
And this is the happy ending we've been waiting for! :D

Marc, as anticipated by Basetta70, we appreciate your offer, and we are happy to decline it.

We've got a lot of good things from this story, and we are sure you too, nothing more is needed.

Thanks to all the people who helped us to get this right, with their time and all the words missing in our poor vocabulary!

Ciao!
 
mlacrimo said:
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of there choice. I m in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
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That's Great, I'm glad to see you resolved the issues and that really was a wonderful gesture you made with the zt's.
 
mlacrimo said:
All refunds have been made. I would like to offer them both a free zt 0350 of there choice. I m in the middle of transmission replacement. It would be mid April. But I'm trying to make it right and better. Never was intentional.
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I am happy to see that you did the right thing.
 
I was trying to figure out how to buy a Busse on Saturday, when I came across this thread. Wow!!!
You guy's and gal's really came together on that one. I will have to read more of these threads more
often. Looks like Gear 2 Survive is having a rough time. Hope he gets it back together. Now if I could
find out how to buy my Basic 8.
 
Buzzyboy said:
I was trying to figure out how to buy a Busse on Saturday, when I came across this thread. Wow!!!
You guy's and gal's really came together on that one. I will have to read more of these threads more
often. Looks like Gear 2 Survive is having a rough time. Hope he gets it back together. Now if I could
find out how to buy my Basic 8.
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That is a whole different section of the forums. This one is wrapped up for now.
 
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