gravelface aka jason

valleytinworks

valleytinworks

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if anyone has his contact information i would be greatful, i have given him the benefit of the doubt for way to long, he has well over 5k in knives of mine and i am posting this here as i know many people here have talked with him...

combat vet or not at this point i can only conclude he has decided to become a thief.

jerry i would seriously consider helping track him down..... i havent tallied it all up yet but i am guessing its closer to 7,000 dollars in busse product of mine that he has had since april.


call me in my office if you have any info
 
valleytinworks said:
if anyone has his contact information i would be greatful, i have given him the benefit of the doubt for way to long, he has well over 5k in knives of mine and i am posting this here as i know many people here have talked with him...

combat vet or not at this point i can only conclude he has decided to become a thief.

jerry i would seriously consider helping track him down..... i havent tallied it all up yet but i am guessing its closer to 7,000 dollars in busse product of mine that he has had since april.


call me in my office if you have any info
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He had complications with his wound and had to have surgery. I imagine he's been recovering.

I can understand your frustration if you were given a delivery date (on sheaths, I assume) that has come and gone.

But charging Gravelface as a thief is out of line, given his participation in this forum and his close contact with so many people here.
 
then i am out of line, and if you would like to continue to stand up for his actions blindly then maybe you are acting as a co signer on his actions? cause if you look in gb&u you may think different
 
i am not here for a debate, i am hoping to find his contact info, number and address, and i will let an leo deal with the rights and wrongs.
 
valleytinworks said:
then i am out of line, and if you would like to continue to stand up for his actions blindly then maybe you are acting as a co signer on his actions? cause if you look in gb&u you may think different
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You're out of line then. The GB&U is the place for this business, and you already have a thread there--one in which you are the only person complaining about "someone" you do not name. It just seems like you're trying to smear Gravelface publicly with this thread. The Busse forum is not the place for such matters.

Again, your frustrations are justified more than likely. But your choice of language is not. If you were *just* looking for contact info, then a simple, "Anyone know how I can get ahold of Gravelface?" would have sufficed.

BTW, this is me co-signing. I honestly do not believe Jason has stolen anything.
 
valleytinworks said:
then i am out of line, and if you would like to continue to stand up for his actions blindly then maybe you are acting as a co signer on his actions? cause if you look in gb&u you may think different
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I agree. I feel bad for the man and his many problems. 5k is alot of money though. You have all the right in the world to be concerned it about it.
 
so guyon, you are seriously saying that after 7 months i am out of line, after countless emails, after promises of sending me my stuff, that i am out of line..... and you are standing by it..... and by the way there are more than one threads on gbu on jason at this point and i am not the only person
 
i do not think he has stolen anything, i think the knives are safe and with him, but, he has had since April to send you something.... this will get moved, but, I do not think he would keep them forever or sell them, For 99 dollars i would fly Southwest and go get them.. if he cant make it too post office.. i think this should be in GBU,, i just sent you his phone # to your email.. hope it helps, but i have tried to contact him since last Saturday..
 
Posting this matter here is out of line, yes. I've recommended to the moderators it be moved to GB&U where it belongs.

Look, I had something similar with another sheathmaker, Dave the Sheath Mechanic. And it sucked when I wasn't sure what was going on. Come to find out though, the guy had injured his arm, had to quit his job as a result, and wound up having to issue refunds (no sheaths) because he could not make sheaths at the time. When this info came to light, it was a lot easier to swallow.

Jason's family, health, and hurricane concerns have been a matter of public record here in the Busse forum. My guess is that he's trying to get better at the moment.

I wish you the best in contacting him and straightening things out. I have every confidence he'll make good.

That said, I would be hesitant to send $7K worth of knives to anyone for whom I didn't have a phone number and/or address. If I didn't hear back after emails, I'd post in GB&U--not in the Busse forum.
 
I have spoken and been around multiple forums with jason. I hope your situation is resolved. I have heard far more compliments than complaints for him. This is the first complaint I have heard but I have seen many pics and compliments.
 
Jason's medical complications started not long after Blade or maybe before as I recall, he tore his knee up again and I am sure that slowed him down, then he had this infection to deal with, by all accounts that got darned nasty what with the migrating shrapnel and all. Factor in the hurricane evacs and such and we are talking some serious set backs. I cannot speak to the lack of communication, other than I know he hasn't been on here much. Jason is still all good in my book and I think calling him a thief is a bit much considering how his year has gone. Not making excuses for him, just giving food for thought.
 
Thats Very Nice...... He Has Had Every Opportunity To Send Me My Stuff And Has Said So Several Times..... I Dont Have It... Thief
 
valleytinworks said:
Thats Very Nice...... He Has Had Every Opportunity To Send Me My Stuff And Has Said So Several Times..... I Dont Have It... Thief
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Like Progunner, I'm not making excuses either. I'd just rather see valleytinworks actually procure and use a phone number before he starts using terms like "thief," especially when the person in question is a pretty well known member of the forum.
 
Guyon said:
Like Progunner, I'm not making excuses either. I'd just rather see valleytinworks actually procure and use a phone number before he starts using terms like "thief," especially when the person in question is a pretty well known member of the forum.
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he has been called numourous times by several people on this forum and by myself, and while he may be known on this forum so am i.... so are others....


guyon you already vouched for this guy, and cosigned it.... maybe you should call him..... maybe since he and you have that level of respect he will return your calls
 
Jason is a great guy, no one is trying to defame him. I think all of us know that he is going through some serious troubles, and that there is some very pissed people trying to track him down. Guyon, I think you are doing a VALIANT thing in defending Jason. That being said there is someone here who sent him $7,000 in valuables, who has been in contact with him via email, and who has been promised that his stuff would be returned. VTW needs his stuff back ASAP. It has been 7 months. I think that the time frame speaks for itself. I do think the thief comment is unwarranted, but I understand VTWs frustration as it has been 7 months............... I am sure I would be very aggressive and not at all understanding if someone told me they had a $7,000 stack of my money in thier house and couldn't find time in 7 months to send it back to me. I hope VTW gets his knives back, and that everything concerning Jason's health resolves itself.
 
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